i mean, there's a critique to be made which is whether these kinds of lurid stories are worth covering at all, but i mean, welcome to 2015
v true, but this might actually be gawker-specific. not sure even a tabloid would go with repeated 'horny mom'
it seemed like it was 'factual' based on the dynamic before she passed out
more factual description might have been 'alcoholic mom'indications of mental illness/ substance abuse disorder make 'horny' less neutral descriptor, more intentional lolchoice
unfortunately, gawker lolchoice might also be predicated on her physical characteristics (relative youth/ attractiveness) & "georgia"
― drash, Thursday, 16 April 2015 19:55 (eleven years ago)
xpost yeah, I suppose criticizing a Gawker (et al.) article is like criticizing a telemarketer
― Is It Any Wonder I'm Not the (President Keyes), Thursday, 16 April 2015 20:01 (eleven years ago)
someone should give credit to gawker staff for trying to unionize and writing openly about it, and i guess that person will be me. good for you guys, hope it becomes a trend in the industry.
― Mordy, Thursday, 16 April 2015 20:02 (eleven years ago)
xp it is v much scorpion/frog territory, you read some posts and lol, then some more and lol, then you read something w/ fucked up aspects to its tone and/or intent and you're unsettled (and in this latest instance especially that discomfort is legitimate), the scorpion that has the combined faces of, idk, biddle denton ham noles and drew magary, and is like "ummm you knew what i was when you clicked"
― slothroprhymes, Thursday, 16 April 2015 20:06 (eleven years ago)
― drash, Thursday, 16 April 2015 19:55 (9 minutes ago) Permalink
you're really not understanding what i'm saying at all, i'm sure there are lots of words that could have been better chosen but then if you're not understanding that its stuff like this that bankrolls more thoughtful writing you really don't understand the nature of media
― deej loaf (D-40), Thursday, 16 April 2015 20:07 (eleven years ago)
if you're not understanding that its stuff like this that bankrolls more thoughtful writing you really don't understand the nature of media
i get that but"stuff like this" covers a wide spectrum, within which there may be relevant gradations/ distinctions
not sure if "bankrolls more thoughtful writing" is a defense/ explanation of media in general or gawker in specific
was gonna say something about relevance notwithstanding of critique but then realize getting these reactions is built into gawker's cake (gawker got my click, well done gawker)
not disagreeing with your general point re media in 2015, just posting to say yuck to this article (which, again, is unoriginal response likely expected & intended by gawker). in conclusion, i should stop posting about gawker.
― drash, Thursday, 16 April 2015 20:27 (eleven years ago)
Chances of anyone here trying to defend the horny mom article if a bunch of dudes from gawker weren't beloved Ilx posters approx 0%.
― a strawman stuffed with their collection of 12 cds (jjjusten), Thursday, 16 April 2015 20:42 (eleven years ago)
chances jjjusten will read anyone defending the horny mom article before attacking that strawman approx 0%
― deej loaf (D-40), Thursday, 16 April 2015 20:45 (eleven years ago)
Eagerly awaiting the day when Gawker publishes something "more thoughful".
― everything, Thursday, 16 April 2015 20:48 (eleven years ago)
Yeah d-40 keep working that angle while you work the "hey man it's a tough clickbait world out there, you do what you gotta do" angle.
― a strawman stuffed with their collection of 12 cds (jjjusten), Thursday, 16 April 2015 20:49 (eleven years ago)
http://gawker.com/search?q=kiese+laymon
Everything about this "horny mom" story sucks but let's not act like every single thing Gawker has ever published is irredeemable and terrible
― DJP, Thursday, 16 April 2015 20:52 (eleven years ago)
'working that angle'? lol
well it seems you guys have found a convenient scapegoat for incredible complex systemic problems—if only gawker would understand what ILX users everything, jjjusten, and drash already know, tabloid journalism would shrivel up & disappear—never give up that moral high ground
― deej loaf (D-40), Thursday, 16 April 2015 20:53 (eleven years ago)
wow
― da croupier, Thursday, 16 April 2015 20:54 (eleven years ago)
"moral high ground" about articles like that horny mom story is a good thing
― DJP, Thursday, 16 April 2015 20:54 (eleven years ago)
Poor gawker, just a victim of the system.
― a strawman stuffed with their collection of 12 cds (jjjusten), Thursday, 16 April 2015 20:56 (eleven years ago)
LEAVE GAWKER ALONE
― da croupier, Thursday, 16 April 2015 20:56 (eleven years ago)
literally no one has defended the horny mom story what is wrong w u guys
― deej loaf (D-40), Thursday, 16 April 2015 20:57 (eleven years ago)
Do you actually read your own posts
― a strawman stuffed with their collection of 12 cds (jjjusten), Thursday, 16 April 2015 20:58 (eleven years ago)
more than you do evidently
― deej loaf (D-40), Thursday, 16 April 2015 20:58 (eleven years ago)
"after ten years of wondering why everyone was arguing with me despite by my obvious, clear, sound points and logic, i...kept wondering why everyone was arguing with me despite my obvious, clear sound points and logic"
― da croupier, Thursday, 16 April 2015 20:59 (eleven years ago)
*gawks*
― example (crüt), Thursday, 16 April 2015 21:00 (eleven years ago)
d-40 typing "this is not a defense" in the middle of a paragraph of defensiveness doesn't make it something else
― da croupier, Thursday, 16 April 2015 21:01 (eleven years ago)
no i'm making a qualitative distinction
― deej loaf (D-40), Thursday, 16 April 2015 21:02 (eleven years ago)
I don't think that means what u think it means
― a strawman stuffed with their collection of 12 cds (jjjusten), Thursday, 16 April 2015 21:03 (eleven years ago)
i don't care about this stupid post. my point was that i highly doubt it's produced out of institutional malice as much as it is systemic necessity.
i like how i'm being called the gawker chris crocker for suggesting that calling the ppl who run it "sociopaths" might be a little OTT
― deej loaf (D-40), Thursday, 16 April 2015 21:06 (eleven years ago)
Good work everyone
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 16 April 2015 21:08 (eleven years ago)
yup you said "sociopaths" might be a little OTT and we called you the gawker chris crocker
― da croupier, Thursday, 16 April 2015 21:08 (eleven years ago)
yay
― mattresslessness, Thursday, 16 April 2015 21:10 (eleven years ago)
― da croupier, Thursday, April 16, 2015 4:08 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this no less misrepresents this argument than basically any post you've made on this thread in ten years of ilx
― deej loaf (D-40), Thursday, 16 April 2015 21:11 (eleven years ago)
omg...you learned it by watching me
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/IlpjRSf4d_k/hqdefault.jpg
― da croupier, Thursday, 16 April 2015 21:15 (eleven years ago)
I agree with croup on this one, but it is also true that I will die clutching a crucifix, whispering croup posts into Jesus' right cubital fossa.
― And let’s say a new Hozier comes along, and Spotify outbids you (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 16 April 2015 21:18 (eleven years ago)
the only acceptable outcome is max resigning after the embarrassment of the horny mom debacle
― deej loaf (D-40), Thursday, 16 April 2015 21:19 (eleven years ago)
the hivemind would also accept the posting of an embarrassing photo, preferably involving shorts and some kind of exotic fruit
― da croupier, Thursday, 16 April 2015 21:23 (eleven years ago)
someone's gotta pay man its time for some new media frontier justice for the poor beleaguered scapegoat of clickbait culture
― slothroprhymes, Thursday, 16 April 2015 21:25 (eleven years ago)
a messageboard rallied to the defense of standards in tabloid journalism and you won't believe what happened next
― creaks, whines and trife (s.clover), Thursday, 16 April 2015 21:34 (eleven years ago)
His name is probably jace lol. That's a white person name (those are the bad funny names)
― Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 16 April 2015 23:06 (eleven years ago)
the weird thing about that joke is the only Jace I've ever heard of is Jace Clayton, but that probably just means I'm old
― rob, Thursday, 16 April 2015 23:42 (eleven years ago)
kind of annoying that this thread exists and will join the ranks of "pitchfork is dumb" being bumped in perpetuity every time treeships reads someone not being nice on a blog
i would defend gawker itt but max called me unsophisticated the other day http://gagadaily.com/uploads/default_crossed.gif
― flopson, Friday, 17 April 2015 00:12 (eleven years ago)
http://www.reddit.com/r/Coachella/comments/32j34e/i_am_the_white_kid_saying_niggas_on_livestream_ama/
― dan m, Friday, 17 April 2015 00:13 (eleven years ago)
Drake said "sing this verse for me Coachella" and I wasn't about to disappoint drizzy
― some dude, Friday, 17 April 2015 00:19 (eleven years ago)
http://www.theunderdogcardcollector.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/IMG_20140426_0007-215x300.jpg
― mookieproof, Friday, 17 April 2015 00:20 (eleven years ago)
I mean it's a reasonable conundrum who wants to disappoint drizzy
― slothroprhymes, Friday, 17 April 2015 00:22 (eleven years ago)
If you're reading this, Jace, drizzy is already disappointed
― Is It Any Wonder I'm Not the (President Keyes), Friday, 17 April 2015 00:28 (eleven years ago)
― flopson, Thursday, April 16, 2015 8:12 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark
Lmao
― 龜, Friday, 17 April 2015 00:33 (eleven years ago)
Reddit thread there a lot more interesting than anything I've ever seen on Gawker
― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Friday, 17 April 2015 00:45 (eleven years ago)
reading that reddit thread was interesting to you?
― flopson, Friday, 17 April 2015 00:47 (eleven years ago)
More interesting than Gawker, sure
― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Friday, 17 April 2015 00:52 (eleven years ago)
feel like gawker's raison d'etre was to make tabloid/trashy style journalism go down smooth with a hint of overeducated "can you believe how im wasting my master's degree?" kind of irony, but they've been aggressively unfunny lately. turn it around, gawker dudes.
― ryan, Friday, 17 April 2015 01:19 (eleven years ago)
that's a good description of gawker
― Treeship, Friday, 17 April 2015 01:21 (eleven years ago)
glad the kid is laughing this off and that he isn't the wilting flower i thought he might be. but still, it was always conceivable he could have been this anxious person who would freak out
― Treeship, Friday, 17 April 2015 01:26 (eleven years ago)