jenny mccarthy wants your kid to get measles: autism, vaccines, and stupid idiots

aaaarrggghhh: http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Bill-to-force-parents-to-vaccinate-school-6202345.php

We're having similar issues here - govt have proposed "no jab, no child welfare" bill though, which is needlessly punitive because I suspect for the most part its wealthier people being anti vax, and this is just going to engeder paranoia/persecution complex.

That said, how the fuck do we resolve this? Education clearly doesnt work: as an example my partner had a big argument with his ex/kids mother as she was refusing vaxes, cited Wakefield and NaturalNews and all that shit. He proved her wrong with study after study and she just replied with "its all BS, its lies". Gah.

(NB: the kids got vaccinated. He just went against her wishes).

unfortunately no one knows the best way to convince parents, even on an individual level. from a public health perspective the best policy is to require them without exception (other than medical contraindication) for school attendance, like california is trying to do

We may get to the point where they can just vax the mother while pregnant - theyre already looking at it for pertussis I think.

my friend's older sister is constantly posting woo-woo shit and anti-vax links, here's the latest:

http://cdn2.collective-evolution.com/assets/uploads/2015/04/forcedvaxx.png

Just when I think I couldn't get any angrier about this.

oh my fucking god

"Report Post" worthy for sure...

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT THE FUCK

this is the meme

see this is why anti-vaxxers are scum. it's not a 'difference of opinion'. it's that these are assholes compromising public health and stoop to using rape metaphors to get their point across.

fuck them.

they are now approaching "pro-lifers sharing pics of aborted fetuses on a billboard" levels of awful

Oh yeah the "needles are rape" one isnt even new. You should look up Meryl D0rey. Shes a fucking piece of work.

Bill Maher agrees with guest RFK Jr? Was Jon Stewart really that accommodating?
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/04/24/bill-maher-anti-vaxxer-the-real-time-host-sides-with-robert-f-kennedy-jr-during-bizarre-interview.html

“And I resisted for a long time but I started reading the science after a while, and I’m very comfortable reading science,” continued Kennedy. “I’ve brought hundreds and hundreds of successful lawsuits, and most of them have involved scientific controversies. I’m comfortable reading science and dissecting it, and discerning the difference between junk science and real science.

telling omission of the word 'understanding' anywhere in there

a mandatory and public math aptitude test should be required of anyone that says "...but I started reading the science, and I'm very comfortable reading science"

VICTORY: http://www.sfgate.com/health/article/Controversial-vaccination-bill-approved-by-6263698.php

http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/vermont-says-no-to-the-anti-vaccine-movement

surprisingly proud of VT for this one

i guess we already "knew" this

http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2015/06/04/antivaccine-parents-overwhelmingly-affluent-white-and-suburban/

Levin is part of a growing group of people who are paying more attention to diet — organic, gluten- and casein-free among them — as a way to treat the symptoms of autism and other disorders. So strongly does she believe in the healing possibilities of food that she’s now a family wellness coach working exclusively with families of autistic children.

http://nypost.com/2015/06/17/is-diet-the-key-to-curing-autism/

There's a ton of research on elimination diets for autism. A 2010 review found all of them to either be methodologically flawed or demonstrate negligible effects, the 2014 review about the same.

A lot of kids may benefit from casein-free diets for reasons that have little to due with ASD (mostly constipation, phlegm excess, possibly T1 diabetes risk), and some celiacs disease go undiagnosed for a while in childhood. But the I suspect the autism epidemic is probably due to a mix of changed diagnostic criteria, advancing paternal age, damaged microbiota from antibiotic abuse and processed diets, and maybe some persistant polutants that have yet to be identified.

Cure has always been the wrong answer, these fuckers that offer "cures" are fucking worthless hucksters that need shutting down. A lot of good can come from dietary advice but one of the best "cures" for ASC people is acceptance and tolerance of them and encouraging their potential for independence and productivity rather trying to "cure" them or discriminating against them.

Well Jim Carrey's on a roll tonight

https://twitter.com/JimCarrey/status/616049450243338240

Why do people persist with the mercury BS, when it was removed from vaccines in the 90s? GAHHHH.

major kudos to california

"Corporate fascism" cries the star of "Bruce Almighty".

A clip from Tom Shadyac's only movie after the Almighty duology.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8EGwlnygOc

I'll buy this report of adverse effects: 2009-10 European H1N1 flu vaccine mimicked protein responsible for narcolepsy

Special screenings of Trace Amounts have the desired affect, alas (at least on some targets---wonder if any saw it, and said "Thanks, but---"? Looks like film pubs picked pretty well):
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/trace-amounts-jim-carrey-targeted-806435

well the anti-vaxxers finally killed somebody:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2015/07/02/measles-death-washington-state/29624385/

First US measles death since 2003 was an immunocompromised woman who shared a waiting room with someone who was contagious: http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/health/undetected-measles-led-to-womans-death/?utm_content=bufferc5595&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=owned_buffer

jinx!

and tbf, people die every year from antivaxxer nonsense

Yeah for sure, theres been at least 2 whooping cough deaths in aus in recent years that could fairly directly be attributed to outbreaks in areas known for hippy shitheads that wont vax.

anti vaxxers giving hippies a bad name imo

are they really hippies? (does "hippies" even hold much meaning these days?) most of the folks i know --or know of--are UMC liberals. yuppies, in other words.

They can be one and the same round some parts here. treechanger organic crunchy yuphippies?

Gwynneth paltrow, if you will.

i guess so. i just don't know what "hippie" indicates anymore. i would have thought it was someone who didn't have a 9–5.

"most of the folks i know --or know of--are UMC liberals. yuppies, in other words."

i meant to write that the folks i know or know of who don't vax their kids.

btw i have stopped being friends w/ at least one of these people. some people are just too fucking stupid. i feel bad for their kids.

a few of them take a so-called "middle position" where they might vax their kids, but later than recommended, or maybe they'll give them /some/ vaccinations but not all the recommended ones. as if discovering a middle ground between "exhaustively demonstrated to be for the greater good" and "absolutely stupid and paranoid" is admirable.

god i'm so filled with anger at stupid people today. i think i'll just go to bed.

main thing here is the stuff this guy was pimping:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/07/16/the-mysterious-death-of-a-doctor-who-peddled-autism-cures-to-thousands/?tid=hp_mm&hpid=z3&utm_campaign=KHN%3A+First+Edition&utm_source=hs_email&utm_medium=email&utm_content=20631865&_hsenc=p2ANqtz-_tqKAxmPKxGs8m9egv4OrHNG-AIv2CGI3vLgYa66ZFYNx4FNyBHotE_fMACHQqBqRLpHR-AMhJa0yc7UViikEQKMRJtQ&_hsmi=20631865

This guy.

http://www.theage.com.au/content/dam/images/g/j/2/1/z/o/image.related.articleLeadNarrow.300x0.gj2zki.png/1439973557358.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/odWHeos.jpg

ur right, nutjob cartoon artist, that infant WOULD be better off with measles we are truly reaping what our hubris in science hath sown

nice ZOG shoutout

if there's anything Jews hate, it's the measles!

ha wow i didn't catch that