hey gawker dudes. what the fuck is wrong with you?

Gawker ad manager or whoever probably was yelling "I need three race-baiting Coachella bits with pictures in my inbox in the next 20 mins".

Chris Hansen Wants You

* Sad Man Sits in Field

uh hello gawker dudes I am suing you for slander now

i've never even been in a field

the bit that made me most uncomfortable is the comparison to racist frat members: in current environment, with current news, doesn’t feel so much like innocuous joeks. arguendo there’s an interesting legitimate point to the jokey article (about white kid cluelessness, micro aggressions, whatever); but that comparison (aimed at a specific identifiable kid) should’ve been omitted or much more qualified

― drash, Wednesday, April 15, 2015 2:33 PM (41 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

jfc are you serious

yes

problem with comparison goes two ways: not just unfair to kid, but also rhetorically minimizes virulence of those frat members' behavior

http://i.imgur.com/n6cZ1At.jpg

can we please get this thread on gawker already, snake's tail isn't gonna eat itself here

unintentionally minimizes (i'm sure of course author does NOT intend to minimize or draw moral equivalence). but to my mind the comparison (unintentionally) does

but like i said, don't feel v strongly about this

(puts gun back in holster)

http://4closurefraud.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Not-to-play.jpg

regarding smarm huh

problem with comparison goes two ways: not just unfair to kid, but also rhetorically minimizes virulence of those frat members' behavior

― drash, Wednesday, April 15, 2015 3:28 PM (21 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

what if it was: a joke

spiralli otm

what if it was: a joke

granted, it was. still have all those problems with it (shrug).

it was a joke but also i think it was accurate!!

tbh if joke was aimed at public figure (acting that way at a concert) instead of random kid, prob would have no problem at all with it

i get the joke. dunno, maybe my own issues re privacy/ shyness make me identify with the kid

but i should stop because i'm boring myself

big gawker is watching u

lol don't give me nightmares

maybe you look like a famous actor, too, drash

you can't know for sure until you are publicly shamed, and then you measure the amount of shaming received vs our charts

from username translator compendium

drash?

― Mordy, Tuesday, March 3, 2015 3:50 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Sarah silverman, Michael Cera, and Reggie Watts?

― how's life, Friday, March 6, 2015 11:55 AM (1 month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

oh shit

i get the joke. dunno, maybe my own issues re privacy/ shyness make me identify with the kid

but i should stop because i'm boring myself

― drash, Wednesday, April 15, 2015 4:04 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

breaking: internet user drash likes to say the n word in private

plz post to gawker stat

that's jash i think

― Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Friday, March 6, 2015 12:33 PM (1 month ago)

they can't shame you if you don't give a shit

breaking: internet user drash likes to say the n word in private

plz post to gawker stat

that's jash

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Jon Ronson talks to Adam Curtis - this has nothing to do with Gawker but frankly I'm not sure a discussion of Gawker is going to be more interesting.

I think the thing that proves my point dramatically are the waves of shaming that wash through social media – the thing you have spotted and describe so well in your book. It's what happens when someone says something, or does something, that disturbs the agreed protocols of the system. The other parts react furiously and try to eject that destabilising fragment and regain stability.

two intellectual luminaries in conversation

omg is he blaming the collapse of the arab spring on twitter this is amazing

its impressive the level of anxiety twitter provokes in ppl

lol that quote is hilarious

sometimes, when someone does something everyone else dislikes, they get mad

when people seem to disapprove so much of sites that are basically just people talking to each other, i wonder what kind of peaceful, uneventful, unfailingly polite human interaction they expect millions of people to maintain every single day of their lives

I think Curtis is mostly talking about the feedback loop thing that happens when people are clamoring with millions of others to have their voice heard and embraced by some group. In a truncated medium, you do this by saying familiar things -- staking out a hardline stance.

He kind of jams this into a facile alarmist narrative about how twitter is ruining everything but i think he is right insofar as it and other areas of the internet seem less than ideal for substantive conversation. People talk past each other on twitter. This is fine but people want to use it as a vehicle for important conversations. How many thinkpieces are just exigeses of tweets?

People talk past each other on twitter.

was gonna say

the feedback loop thing that happens when people are clamoring with millions of others to have their voice heard and embraced by some group

come on, ascribing reductive psychological impulses to "millions" of people makes you look like a dumbass

so Gawker is hardly the only site not to let a woman being raped get in the way of "Horny Mom" lols:

http://gawker.com/horny-mom-threw-teen-daughter-a-naked-twister-sex-party-1697948520?utm_campaign=socialflow_gawker_facebook&utm_source=gawker_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow

But:

The night ended for Lehnardt around 3:30 a.m., when she woke up in her bed to find her daughter's 16-year-old boyfriend having sex with her. According to an Evans County sheriff's report quoted by the Huffington Post,

"Mrs. Lehnardt told [the sponsor] she and her daughter had spoken and that her daughter 'felt guilty because the 16-year-old was 10 inches long and huge, and if she had just been able to take it, he wouldn't have needed to rape her mother.'"

The horny mom, arrested based on the sponsor's story, won't face any sex-related charges because 16 is Georgia's age of consent.

the feedback loop thing that happens when (an unidentified number of) people are clamoring with millions of others (who have their own agendas, as people use twitter in all sorts of ways) to have their voice heard and embraced by some group

yeah i was going to post the "horny mom" story earlier but i was afraid to hear how people would try to defend it.

Was the rape part in the story at first? I didn't notice it when I saw the post and I don't think it was included in the local news story they initially linked to.

It was there when i read it last night

i heard 3 different radio shows discuss the story on my drive to work this morning, only 2 of them mentioned that part, and only one of them seemed to take any notice of the fact that any of the sex in the story was non-consensual but even then were kind of snickering about the entire thing.

oof

i mean granted the first thing everyone hears about this story is 'naked twister mom!' so it kinda takes a minute as the details unravel that you go heh heh go on heh heh wait this entire thing is really fucked up

xpost probably pointless to continue in the face of that story (hey I went to high school for a few years in Evans), but:
no matter the number I feel like speculating about individuals' motives for using twitter is inescapably condescending, but more constructively Treeship, are there internet or IRL spaces that you think are good at being "a vehicle for important conversations"?