hey gawker dudes. what the fuck is wrong with you?

i think about three years ago i got into this argument with jordan and his suggestion to me was, go read a newspaper
that's worked out pretty well for both of us so I am recommending it as an answer to anyone who takes issue with gawker

bonus: i'm consistently knocking out the friday nyt xword

^BRAGGIN '15^

c'mon. if you deal in the blood of a person's reputation, at least expect repercussions. in fact, own that shit. internet's picking up heat on a call for jordan's head on this post, and can you blame them? it comes with the territory. all the successful tabloid people i've known have had ice in their veins, real motherfuckers. if you can't own that shit, get out of the game.

lol if you think i didn't expect the exact response that the post got

did anyone reach out to get comment from the kid in question?

xps to forks that's a pretty good way of looking at it, I mean you engage with the sites that are properties of new media robber barons and you should m/l know what you're getting into- some of it will be entertaining and funny, some will be legitimately valuable, some will be petty trash or worse; you read papers and other straight up news properties and you prob get boring news w/ another set of potential issues

(insert devil's advocate "newspapers are compromised/dying/trash sometimes too" caveat here)

I think j0rdan has been pretty forthcoming about what he was doing w/ the post, like what he was trying to convey, obv there's a pure clickbait aspect to it on some level but this is Internet writing so what does anyone expect and on that level dude is just doing his job

the blood of a person's reputation ... who afaik no one has identified or seems interested in identifying

if he ends up ID'd it's more likely it'll be from someone interested in making a "point" about media shaming ppl than it would be someone actually trying to shame the kid

i suspect, anyway. i think you guys think there are a lot of people interested in exposing a kid who sang along with the n-word at a concert and while i'm sure there are a lot of people put off by it or annoyed by it or seeing it as a reminder of an entire society of injustice, i doubt many of them thing it's worth the time to track down this kid to make an example of ... that's like some anti-Political-Correctness paranoia IMO.

Also I think ppl trying to ascertain Jordan's specific underlying motives are doing a disservice to this argument, or are only picking up on it bc he is here to respond (more than he needs to IMO). As it relates to the great argument, um, death of the author & all that

to the *greater* argument

oh come on

the kid's friends and acquaintances will see it eventually. he'll most likely be mortified. the post compared what he did to racist southern frat parties which this week carries implications of the vile University of Oklahoma SAE chapter

maybe it doesn't matter if he gets really upset because of this. or if some people end up seeing him a little differently. nothing more will probably come of it for him than that, but those things aren't nothing.

it's not inconceivable that his name eventually gets linked to this and it affects his ability to get a job either. probably won't happen, but if so that's a real consequence that matters

dude, you're talking to people who do this kind-of thing for fun and profit and then contort themselves into evading responsibility. you might as well be making these points to a brick wall.

r u the kid who sang along the nword with drake at cochella sry u r fired that was very rude

i wonder what must it feel like to fire someone for a social media faux pas

oh no a white kid might not get a job

...

what an amazing contortion to suggest that public behavior might have consequences

it's just kind of a funny moment of our zany constantly "plugged-in" "no privacy" 21st century society

no jordan is responsible for ruining this young man's life by pointing out something that he did in public w/ hundreds of other people

is the "Jace" thing a MtG dig?

most famous Jace
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Handlers/Image.ashx?multiverseid=195297&type=card

no jordan is responsible for ruining this young man's life by pointing out something that he did in public w/ hundreds of other people

― deej loaf (D-40), Wednesday, April 15, 2015 12:00 AM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

its true i have already fired him in fact

xp lollllllll SG for the win

"pointing out"

what else are you suggesting he did? did he call for the kid to be fired from all future employment opps?

those are all some fine contortions, thank you for proving my point. we've gone through victim blaming, minimization, and dehumanization (LOLLL!!!) one right after the other. pretty classic stuff on display here, and on a group-wide scale, at that. chilling.

hey ilx wtf is wrong with u.

more people should be publicly shamed for minor transgressions, harden up.

waht is this kid a victim of? a website made fun of him?

pretty classic stuff on display here, and on a group-wide scale, at that. chilling. pretty classic stuff on display here, and on a group-wide scale, at that. chilling. pretty classic stuff on display here, and on a group-wide scale, at that. chilling. pretty classic stuff on display here, and on a group-wide scale, at that. chilling. pretty classic stuff on display here, and on a group-wide scale, at that. chilling. pretty classic stuff on display here, and on a group-wide scale, at that. chilling. pretty classic stuff on display here, and on a group-wide scale, at that. chilling. pretty classic stuff on display here, and on a group-wide scale, at that. chilling. pretty classic stuff on display here, and on a group-wide scale, at that. chilling. pretty classic stuff on display here, and on a group-wide scale, at that. chilling.

first they came for the kids singing drake lyrics and i said nothing, because i was not a fan.

all the tell tale signs of chilling itt

more people should be publicly shamed for minor transgressions

why?

pretty sure that "kid" is famous actor Ryan Hansen

maybe i am missing something. i don't see the political value in that video. the entertainment value is mocking a stranger. the whole thing sucks and is gross. i feel the same way about it that i do about misogynistic tabloids that body shame celebrities.

why is it not ok to just be decent and try not to cause undue harm?

he needs to be shamed but only a tiny bit

Treeship, i don't think you really appreciate where you are right now.

except if he is really a famous actor he shd be shamed more in accord with his level of fame

I think medium shaming is appropriate if you kinda look like a famous actor

and there is a spectrum of shame around medium that is a function of how famous the actor you kinda look like is

My object all in blame
I shall achieve through shame —
To let the punishment fit the fame —
The punishment fit the fame;
And make each prisoner pent
Unwillingly represent
A source of innocent merriment!
Of innocent merriment!

the appropriate amount of shame in this case is is a deniable amount like be shaming him def but then be like "what"

lol

xxxxxps to sloth: there's all kinds of reasonable and angry complaints to be made about what modern SERIOUS PRINT MEDIA feeds us of course... the quid/agg nyt thread covers class warfare concerns, all major outlets do backflips to maintain status quo at the expense of what seems to me to be necessary revolutionary change in domestic judiciary / policing / political policy (to say nothing of foreign policy; the economist in particular often feels like it's being written from the mid-seventies), terrible hacks survive on the teat of house style for decades and terrorize whole swaths of artistic or progressive endeavor. i dunno if any individual newspaper/magazine is utterly killing the game right now but the good ones employ good writers and researchers and media makers with clever minds and are informative and often fun to read and introduce new ideas and impact the culture positively enough that the good definitively outweighs the bad. my issue with much short-form internet tabloid journalism (and, to a lesser degree, criticism) is that it doesn't necessarily meet that standard.
But hey, that's obviously not the governing core mission when your business model requires x-to-the-nth-power unique hits to keep the lights on and anyway who am i to shit on what puts food on another man's table? so, as i'm no longer the target demographic anyway, i am more currently of the opinion that it's foolish to ask a cow to oink and that mutual apathy to one another's concerns until they overlap for work or ilx seems fairest game all around. as my grandfather used to say, nobody wanna hear your goddamn point when they got their own point to make.

i had a roommate named Jace who was just as awful as a Jace inevitably must be, so i laughed at that part

Drake has a hit single where he describes one of his white friends saying the N-word, and then shrugs "I hope noone heard that." he has another hit single where he refers to his white producer by the N-word.

this is all just stealth marketing for ronson

agreed. don't believe me? just watch.