Radar Love: DAREDEVIL show on NETFLIX

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Also I think it was mentioned above but Kingpin is truly a physically terrifying figure in the comics. Character in show as just a normal slightly to seed bald dude feels weird.

the comics kingpin is six-foot-seven and 450lbs, which i guess is kind of a tough nut for casting directors to crack. he seemed scary enough to me when he was literally smashing a man's head off with a car door.

bizarro gazzara, Monday, 13 April 2015 14:53 (nine years ago) link

Really? He seemed like a pissy out of control weirdo.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Monday, 13 April 2015 14:54 (nine years ago) link

You give anyone enough tries they can smash a dudes head off with a car door you know. Big whoop.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Monday, 13 April 2015 14:56 (nine years ago) link

CHALLENGE ACCEPTED

bizarro gazzara, Monday, 13 April 2015 14:59 (nine years ago) link

Cool just put yr head right here and let put on my head snapping smock.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Monday, 13 April 2015 15:03 (nine years ago) link

Character in show as just a normal slightly to seed bald dude

Dang, I must have watched a different series entirely because I didn't see that at all.

WilliamC, Monday, 13 April 2015 15:06 (nine years ago) link

To be fair I'm only on ep. 8 maybe he gets more impressive....

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Monday, 13 April 2015 15:09 (nine years ago) link

I'm 4 eps in and generally find it pretty good, but a little OTT violent than it needs to be.

I feel that this is better than it has any business being.

I am using your worlds, Monday, 13 April 2015 15:13 (nine years ago) link

very much enjoying Ben Urich. I'm assuming they don't have the rights to the Daily Bugle.

yeah, vondie curtis-hall was inspired casting for urich. i guess the bugle rights are tied up with sony and the spider-man movies? urich's editor is no j. jonah jameson, that's for sure.

bizarro gazzara, Monday, 13 April 2015 15:22 (nine years ago) link

I loved this, but it was maybe a misstep to have Kingpin and Daredevil's genesis stories running alongside each other. One of them has to lose in the end, so it creates an anticlimax in that arc. But maybe that is actually awesome bc it means there were actually stakes built up for that last episode.

also soundtrack turns all espresso machine for kingpin's coming out party

foggy has gotten reeeeaaaaallllly annoying (or perhaps just weakly acted) in the last few episodes

slothroprhymes, Monday, 13 April 2015 18:10 (nine years ago) link

This whole thing should have been done in about 10 episodes instead of 13. They figured out their 3 act play, divided up the major plot points and story beats by 13 and then realized they didn't have enough stuff for Act III, so we wind up with crap where people are almost literally saying "gee it's so great that we're all friends again" and neverending scenes of drinking at Josie's.

WilliamC, Monday, 13 April 2015 18:35 (nine years ago) link

I'm at episode 4 and still find this very plodding. Foggy is eminently punchable

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 14 April 2015 08:48 (nine years ago) link

I'm up to episode 9, and I thought it was weird how Rosario Dawson's character has just disappeared for several episodes now, without explanation. Though based on what happens in this ep, it seems likely she'll appear in the next one. It's still odd though, the last time we saw her she was staying at Matt's for safety reasons, and then she's just... not there anymore.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 14 April 2015 09:55 (nine years ago) link

There was a long conversation between Foggy and Matt about relationships and Matt said they broke up. She was only there because the Russians were a threat, which they weren't any more, and we saw them kiss so I guess they started seeing each other. My assumed timeline for the series is over at least weeks, if not months, so I had presumed they dated for a while then stopped.

the bowels are not what they seem (aldo), Tuesday, 14 April 2015 10:05 (nine years ago) link

That's not how I interpreted it, it seemed like the kiss was the only romantic thing that happened between them, we never saw them in the same bed or anything. Then in the next scene they're together Matt says something like that he doesn't want to endanger her, so it seems like he decided they shouldn't date because she would get even more mixed up in the DD business? The story he told to Foggy seems to have been more of a white lie so he wouldn't have to go into detail? So I guess after that, Claire just packed her bags an went home? But it's weird that none of this (whether they dated or just kissed that one time, whether he broke up with her, whether she went home) was ever addressed onscreen, she just disappeared.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 14 April 2015 10:25 (nine years ago) link

Also, I've come to accept that the bad guy in this series is a wholly new character who just happens to share the name with comic book villain. Now that they've given him a Freudian excuse for becoming a villain and everything, it feels like the only thing common between the comic and television Fisk is that they're ruthless crimelords and that they're bald. If you look at TV Fisk as a new character, he's actually a pretty interesting villain! Except that I still can't get past D'Onofrio's faked hoarse voice, it sounds so goofy, even goofier than Christian Bale's Batvoice, because at least Batman was intentionally faking it.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 14 April 2015 10:31 (nine years ago) link

watched first 3 eps last night.
looking forward to catching the next 3 tonight.
just rather glad i didn't allow mk2 to watch it with me as he is 11, and we normally watch all the Marvel stuff together.

mark e, Tuesday, 14 April 2015 10:32 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, this is pretty much the only Marvel movie/series that's clearly not for kids.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 14 April 2015 10:34 (nine years ago) link

i do wonder how many parents are going to be wrongfooted by the marvel branding and end up showing their kid some pretty unpleasant stuff by mistake

bizarro gazzara, Tuesday, 14 April 2015 10:35 (nine years ago) link

absolutely, if i had not have checked this thread then i would have definitely sat down with mk2 for this.

mark e, Tuesday, 14 April 2015 10:37 (nine years ago) link

Well, the Netflix rating clearly says "adults", but I'm not sure how much parents care about those?

(xpost)

Tuomas, Tuesday, 14 April 2015 10:37 (nine years ago) link

actually, i had not noticed the adult rating (bad dad !), as i just saw marvel/DD,
that said, if i had, i would have just assumed a bit of bad language/comic book violence etc.

mark e, Tuesday, 14 April 2015 10:41 (nine years ago) link

Kingpin has a domestic violence origin in Punisher Max.

the bowels are not what they seem (aldo), Tuesday, 14 April 2015 10:45 (nine years ago) link

Yeah that Kingpin origin is not new, although I can't remember which DD run it was in. I've not read Punisher Max - it was also in a DD comic

I am using your worlds, Tuesday, 14 April 2015 15:35 (nine years ago) link

rosario dawson is in this!? okay, maybe i will watch it now...

first i have to finish watching Michael Bay's THE LAST SHIP on hulu though...

scott seward, Tuesday, 14 April 2015 15:47 (nine years ago) link

ugh why, i bailed on that p early

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 14 April 2015 16:46 (nine years ago) link

I also found it weird how Dawson dropped out, musta been a scheduling thing

fuck me, archipelago (Simon H.), Tuesday, 14 April 2015 16:48 (nine years ago) link

she's meant to be night nurse, yes? They may be linking her more closely with the continuity of all four netflix shows?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_Nurse_%28comics%29

Premise ridiculous. Who have two potato? (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 14 April 2015 16:54 (nine years ago) link

My guess is more a budget thing than a schedule thing.

WilliamC, Tuesday, 14 April 2015 17:06 (nine years ago) link

Just watched episode 10, and it gets even weirder, because her character is shown to have done things offscreen but doesn't appear onscreen. So yeah, it definitely looks like money or her schedule (she's mostly a movie actor, right?) interfered with doing the show, because it makes no sense for her not appear in this episode if she was available.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 14 April 2015 17:34 (nine years ago) link

"ugh why, i bailed on that p early"

i have absolutely no excuse or justification.

scott seward, Tuesday, 14 April 2015 17:35 (nine years ago) link

<3

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 14 April 2015 17:49 (nine years ago) link

people on my facebook are definitely mentioning the "gritty frank miller" qualities of this show. but i don't know if those people are comic people or not. mostly thumbs up though here and also there. will watch.

scott seward, Tuesday, 14 April 2015 19:29 (nine years ago) link

V-Grrl, there IS one totally awesome moment on THE LAST SHIP where they are leaving this drug lord in the jungle who has terrorized jungle people and they've got the monkeys they came for and one of the navy guys thinks they should go back and take out the drug lord and they look to the captain and they ask him what he wants to do: go back to the LAST SHIP or go back into the jungle and get the bad guys and he takes the loooooooooooongest pause and then big close-up on his big rock face as he says............WE CAME TO HUNT! *cue music and commercial*

kinda the most uber-Bay moment ever in history.

scott seward, Tuesday, 14 April 2015 19:36 (nine years ago) link

looool

i was hoping the show would be more that level on the reg but i found it kind of a snooze mostly

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 14 April 2015 21:43 (nine years ago) link

is d'onofrio doing brando? he's doing brando isn't he...

resulting post (rogermexico.), Thursday, 16 April 2015 04:59 (nine years ago) link

he's not not doing brando, i'll say that

Premise ridiculous. Who have two potato? (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 16 April 2015 05:01 (nine years ago) link

the voice actually bugs me a lot less when I think of him as Wilson Kurtz

resulting post (rogermexico.), Thursday, 16 April 2015 05:28 (nine years ago) link

I hope the eventual Defenders thing has him in his yellow tights & sleeves for at least one ep.

SCHLITZ MIXED BAG (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 17 April 2015 21:53 (nine years ago) link

Really surprised by how good this is

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 17 April 2015 23:17 (nine years ago) link

i like the use of silence. like, art movie use of silence. always happy when t.v. people are bold enough to be quiet. it's also very dark! as in the absence of light. but in a nice HD way.

scott seward, Saturday, 18 April 2015 04:51 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, this is pretty much the only Marvel movie/series that's clearly not for kids.

― Tuomas, Tuesday, 14 April 2015 10:34 (4 days ago) Permalink

Punisher movies, man

Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 18 April 2015 05:10 (nine years ago) link

not technically "Marvel movies"

they do have Punisher and Blade back now though so it might be interesting to see them pop up in one of the Netflix shows

Number None, Saturday, 18 April 2015 13:57 (nine years ago) link

They have really nailed this series, it's the Miller Daredevil but improved for the small screen.

earlnash, Sunday, 19 April 2015 04:48 (nine years ago) link

I think the casting for Foggy and Ben Urich are great.

earlnash, Sunday, 19 April 2015 04:51 (nine years ago) link


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