Twin Peaks: Classic or Dud?

he didn't let frost know about his decision beforehand either, it seems

poor mark frost. i imagine he's just holed up somewhere drinking heavily

nonetheless, article makes it p clear Showtime's the villain here imo

still want to know what's so expensive to shoot

yeah, no kidding. there must be tons of explosions and CGI sequences

idk, Showtime's position isn't that ridiculous. they made an agreement on a budget before they went off to write the scripts. can't expect them to just pony over significantly more without some sort of negotiations.

also Lynch storming off the project without talking to anyone else already tied to it is more unprofessional, less LOL-that-quirky-David imo.

obviously i love Lynch and hope to god this happens, just sayin'.

without numbers, one can't really know who's being ridiculous

this is why showtime has all those great shows that everyone's always talking about

― Karl Malone, Thursday, April 9, 2015 1:34 PM (24 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

people talked about Homeland. I enjoyed Shameless for a bit.

Showtime is def cheaper than HBO, though, yeah

yeah maybe Lynch has secretly been wanting to do some sick CG work for years but just never had the opportunity to get it bankrolled.

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--jW4_1M5c--/18ter0ujkq5rdjpg.jpg

lol that's a p shitty move on Showtime's part - "you wanna do more, it comes out of your pocket"

― Οὖτις, Thursday, April 9, 2015 3:33 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it's a totally standard practice in film and TV, for whatever that's worth.

and it isn't really out of their pocket in a literal sense, although stuff like that happens to: "you go over budget, it comes out of your salary." in this case showtime just wanted to negotiate for more of the residuals. i mean, i don't really think this is a who's-right-who's-wrong thing, it's just your normal tug of war over finance.

feel like if there was only a way for us to truly convey to mom and dad Showtime just how badly we need this ping pong table Twin Peaks season

and i can't help but think of ol' mark frost thinking, "this is my chance to come back! don't fuck it up, david!" it's not as though he's been doing a lot lately.

he's been writing books

what are those?

they're a set of printed pages bound between covers but that's not important right now

well played

that's actually how i meant the question

Watched Vertigo for the first time last night. It is a HUGE influence on Twin Peaks and while I'd seen parts of it before I hadn't seen it since watching all of Twin Peaks. James Stewart is basically Agent Cooper plus Frank Booth, a good-natured folksy do-gooder who is also a psychotic obsessive voyeur and abuser (and killer?) of women. Kim Novak portrays a stunning set of characters, switching everything including hair color at the halfway point. Sort of like Mulholland Drive, or the introduction of Laura's brunette cousin Maddy. I thought this scene in particular had a super strong Laura Palme vibe:

http://the.hitchcock.zone/files/gallery/org/3510.jpg

If David Lynch doesn't come back they should go through with the show, but limit it to spin offs of the terrible season two plots. E.g. A romantic comedy in which James, having concluded his soul searching after 25 years of biking across america, returns to Twin Peaks to re-open the long dormant Double R Diner (sexual tension ensues with the head waitress; regular patrons include involve mayor Dick Tremayne and Sherrif Little Nicky). Or a superhero show in which Nadine, having moved to a Gotham-esque city to support her fledgling drape-running business, fights crime by night. Etc.

dark but lyrical four-hour long-day's-journey psychodrama about evelyn, malcolm + jeffrey

ten hours of slow pans across pictures of ben horne while shelby foote quotes unattributed private conversations between him and jerry

norma's mom vs food

ben horne's civil war reenactment...is real

erotic thriller revolving around the mayor's fiancee, pursued by all the town's octogenarians with brutal, murderous intensity

people open and close the josie drawer

Congrats on watching a masterpiece. A lesser Lynch inspiration:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vy9C80NIk2o

Yeah there's a reason Laura's doppelgänger cousin is called Madeleine

I <3 dick tremayne

I would have dearly loved for a third season to revisit that most unimpeachable of s2 plotlines, the s2 plotline "Norma's mother comes to stay"

Ken Burns style doc on the Ben Horne civil war

@david_lynch Dear Twitter Friends, the rumors are not what they seem ..... It is !!!
Happening again. #TwinPeaks returns on @SHO_Network

:D

Cool but uhh is he gonna be directing?

i love how there are already like 50 click-bait "articles" whose entire new content is just reposting lynch's tweet.

confirmation from showtime:

http://variety.com/2015/tv/news/david-lynch-says-twin-peaks-showtime-revival-is-happening-1201498131/

Showtime president David Nevins confirmed the news minutes later.

“David will direct the whole thing which will total more than the originally announced nine hours, ” Nevins said

YEEEESSSSSSSSSSSS!

Awesome

Wooooooo!

i wonder what was in those scripts that boosted the cost so high. maybe they were putting in too many wantonly destructive car chases? or lots of owl CGI?

Yeah, I'm really curious about that. Also sounds like Lynch was pushing this a little longer than the agreed upon hour count.

“David will direct the whole thing which will total more than the originally announced nine hours, ” Nevins said

I'm imagining him saying this like all sweaty, running his hands through his hair, mumbling Oh God as he walks away.

must have wanted no constraints on episode length. would be great if some of them are like, 75 minutes for no reason

man, what if this turns out to be like 9+ hours of inland empire?

Pretty much the greatest news. I was half expecting Inland Empire to be the end as far as long form movie/tv/whatever is concerned. Really excited to see how his current sensibilities mesh with Frost and the Peaks world. One of THE great filmmakers at the tail end of his career getting a 9+ hour opus. If he's still capable of doing the things he did in IE, this will be something fucking else.

I mean is 9 hours of Inland Empire in Twin Peaks a bad thing?

Also can't forget Frost is involved and will likely temper him slightly.

dont think the lamestreamers who like twin peaks for the "damn good cup of coffee" quirky stuff are gonna be down with 9 hours of weird cinema terror

^Also possibly why Showtime balked. IDK, the Frost element still makes me think this will only be a couple degrees more extreme than the Lynch directed episodes in the original run.

fire walk w me p extreme iirc

yeah, but it's just a warm-up for Inland Empire really, in terms of narrative, visual, and tonal disjunctions

fwwm is totally extreme and also all the people who are like "lol the lady has a log and the people eat pie luv this show" hate and ignore fwwm.