Amazon Kindle (ebook thingy)

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Not great for right-handed page-back, but how often do you use page back, I guess.

i think you can swipe as well as tap, so that the swipe maybe lets you indicate a direction contrary to the region you're swiping in? but it may be you need to swipe more centrally to get that to work.

I got a Voyage, and it has page turn "buttons," but I find myself touching the screen instead, because the IFSR buttons just don't have a great tactile feel.

It's less wanting right handed page backward and more wanting left handed page forward so I can page forward regardless of the hand I'm using. I'm being really picky here but swiping seems like it might be a bit disruptive, would prefer to keep my hands in one place.

Are there brick and mortar places that have Voyage demo units?

You can page-forward with your left hand by just tapping a little further away from the left edge of the screen. Works fine for me.

but that's such a long stretch!!! i want to move nothing on any of my body!! not even eyeballs!!!

How'd you ever read print books?

why did you come into a thread about kindles, what do you think we were going to discuss?

i was a bit concerned about upgrading from the orig kindle to paperwhite because of the lack of page-turn buttons but it's really not an issue. almost preferable and less clunky to just touch the screen, and you can swipe to go back if you need to. i wouldn't pay the extra amount for the voyager, it doesn't seem worth it (having said that, i've not tried out a voyager but i'm p much blown away but how much i love this paperwhite). also, do like xelab and go for ebay/gumtree, got mine for £75 plus snazzy red cover, and even a lemon shortbread biscuit because the guy had made a batch that morning. whole experience is up there in my top 5 things of the year

Honestly the Voyager is not worth the extra dough. It has sharper edges and lower battery life (smaller battery makes it thin). The screen is higher red, but that doesn't really make reading any better. It was a cool
engineering exercise, but not really a better product.

doesn't it, like, donk

tactile-ishly?

It's got haptic clicks (and believe me - they worked hard on it!), but those things never feel quite right. I just find myself using the touchscreen to turn pages anyway.

do people really hate buttons as much as tech companies think they do? i'm still devastated that apple discontinued the ipod classic.

I'm hapticus autisticus

i feared having a touchscreen only kobo would mean fingerprints galore. but it's fine.

the one thing i do hate is accidental touches and the way you've no real idea which direction the pages were turned in. do i need to go backwards or forwards to get where i was?

Buttons are a huge PITA to design, mechanically. Usually we burnt through a couple of sets of hard tools (very expensive) on each product, trying to get the buttons to feel right.

do people really hate buttons as much as tech companies think they do? i'm still devastated that apple discontinued the ipod classic.

― musically,

it's easier and cheaper to manufacture products without buttons and less breakable things they have to give refunds on

And it makes localization easier...

Paperwhite is on sale today and tomorrow for $99...$20 off. Think I will go for it!

probably something to do with the imminent kobo glo hd launch

I was lucky as hell to get a barely used one on ebay for £46 ($67.51). It was a hell of a bargain, it is the pinnacle of e-readers and I doubt I will use anything else for a long time. All this bollocks about making them more high-res or more thinner or waterproof etc is missing the point imo.

more bloops

ok now the ads are selling me vitamins

i replaced a first gen fire, which my kid dropped, with a 4th gen and sorta grudgingly got ads. these are pretty unobtrusive and i really find them easily ignored. as a complete non-gamer, i find the persistent game of war ads weird tho.

power button on this thing deserves its own section of hell, impossible to find and toggle.

I keep resolving to spend the $30 to get rid of ads, but that's more than I spend per year on Kindle books, so I doubt it will ever happen. it seems like most the ads I get are budget-priced Weird Fiction megapacks, paranormal romance novels, and electric razors. the only featured item I've ever bought is Thomas Ligotti's monograph on philosophical pessimism, which I still haven't read.

(or maybe it's $20; I don't remember. I'm sure there's a way to jailbreak the Kindle to get rid of the special offers, but I've never properly researched it)

now i'm getting dresses

they do look very fetching

but i don't think they come in my size

lol

Kindle Fire HD7 is hella cheep today only.

Did not get.

i do have Paperwhite 2. Software is only on 5.4.3.2 and it is not offering me any updates. Wonder why.

Madchen got me the Voyager for my birthday and it is *lovely*. The screen (especially the backlight) is miles better than my first-gen Paperwhite. Doesn't have the new Bookerley font though, boo.

Voyage*

front page sez 'starting at $59' today

What? Where?

Fixed my problem, with Kindle at least. Had so much stuff not enough room to download update, so just reset, wiping everrything before updating and restarting. Even better than Delete All My Bookmarks.

oh i dunno just in that flippy banner, the giant splash screen one

http://www.amazon.com/b/ref=ods_gw_d_h1_family_mday?_encoding=UTF8&node=10394030011&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=desktop-hero-kindle-A&pf_rd_r=0J23KT91C3CVH3MAA8VY&pf_rd_t=36701&pf_rd_p=2087433182&pf_rd_i=desktop

apparently only old-kindle is that low, nu-kindle starts at 99

Oh, I thought you were saying V'ger was at that price as well.

Indexing, searching now much faster with update.

i thought i was too, didn't click thru at first

i keep having low-memory problems on my paperwhite lately, loaded it too full of books i'm not reading but swear i might want to look at if they're right there

have same problem. As of past few days have learned to plug in USB and look at Kindle Documents in Finder to see which books are taking up the most space.

that doesn't help that much when there are a bajillion of them, all tiny little memory piglets

You sure?

In that case, you need to "Delete All Bookmarks" every once in a while and redownload

yeah well i mean, there's just only so much space you can clear by deleting a couple 20-meg pdfs.

how large are the bookmarks??

Sorry, I don't mean delete the bookmarks. I mean delete everything using Reset and start again.

oh but my 'content' is like 95% stolen and side-loaded, is it just a tidying up kind of issue?

Oh then forget it.

well nuts

Couldn't you just pull some of that stuff off of the kindle into another folder on your computer?

impossible, what if i need to read one of six virginia woolf novels and i'm located at any of the several places far away from my computer i go

When I send my side-loaded mobis to my Kindle I use the Send to Kindle PC app and check the "save copy to Amazon cloud drive" option. That way if I'm in a ~book emergency~ I can toggle to cloud view to find it and save it to my Kindle but it won't clog up my Kindle library unless I want it to.

oh i hadn't realized i could save sideloads to the cloud, i kinda figured it would be best not to since some of the mobis must have been stolen from amazon at some point lol

This looks useful if you don't want Amazon to see your public domain book collection: https://getbookdrop.com/start