I already know multiple people who aren't really into following technology who want the watch!
― mh, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 04:30 (nine years ago) link
I will be shocked if Watch is not a disaster on some scale but then I don't really know any serious crossfit types
― Clay, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 04:31 (nine years ago) link
For me and for most of their customers, I think Amazon is about getting me the shit I need as quickly as possible. They provide a service. And, yes, they are very, very good at that, and I have Prime and buy pretty much all of my books through them. But the actual stuff they produce is . . . The Fire Phone flopped. The Kindle is good. Would you ever pick a Kindle Fire over an iPad? I don’t know anything about their accessories, but that’s small potatoes shit.
― markers, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 04:31 (nine years ago) link
the product is amazon.com mostly but that consists of a million little things, like i set my dad up to get all his sponges and paper towels and dish soap delivered on a schedule, i order larabars and they get here the next day, thats all "amazon prime" i guess but its also just amazon the horrifying interconnected logistics macine
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 04:31 (nine years ago) link
― mh, Tuesday, April 7, 2015 12:30 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
do you know anyone... who needs it... owned
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 04:32 (nine years ago) link
yeah the "real things" amazon does are fulfillment and now AWS, everything else is window dressing and a just staggeringly bananaballs codebase
― brunch technician (silby), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 04:33 (nine years ago) link
Didn’t Cook already admit somewhere that the market for the Watch, at the beginning at least, is limited because it requires certain iPhone models? Anyway, not predicting anything here; I have no idea what kind of numbers it’ll do the first year or beyond. But the fact that it’s $349 at the cheapest is also going to limit its market, and especially at the beginning a lot of people aren’t even going to see the point. Perhaps they never will. Perhaps with good reason! We’ll have to see.
― markers, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 04:33 (nine years ago) link
i suspect the iwatch will do okay the first round and then not grow as expected cause it doesnt really have a crucial use case
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 04:33 (nine years ago) link
― Clay, Tuesday, April 7, 2015 12:31 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
its not even good as an exercise watch! and regardless that market is tiny
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 04:34 (nine years ago) link
the product is amazon.com
OK, I think I was talking more about tangible goods, but if that’s what we’re talking about, I’m not shitting on their core service. I use it, I like it. Hail Jeff Bezos for all that shit.
― markers, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 04:34 (nine years ago) link
the whole nobody needs notifications on their wrist and it's too small for anything else argument persuades me pretty strongly.
― Clay, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 04:35 (nine years ago) link
"product" is just like can u make something people want to use
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 04:35 (nine years ago) link
are there any "the times we live in now" thinkpieces combing apple watch and health goths
― Clay, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 04:37 (nine years ago) link
turns out "no", mostly xp
― brunch technician (silby), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 04:37 (nine years ago) link
(I'm just bitter b/c of my 10 months working on a totally directionless project don't mind me)
― brunch technician (silby), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 04:38 (nine years ago) link
the subtext of the johnny ive new yorker article was so much as i could tell that apple let him make his watch and hire his friend because they were very afraid he would leave the company, and he likes to ride around in a bently not because hes a rich dick but because he really likes the design, as to why he likes the design that is specifically tailored to appeal to rich dicks one was left to speculate
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 04:39 (nine years ago) link
― Clay, Tuesday, April 7, 2015 12:37 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
the awl has been doing some good normcore/tech articles
The Watch will have more compelling use cases later on. Right now it doesn’t have enough sensors to give us a more comprehensive overview of our health situation. That will come later, in future iterations of the device. I’m sure there’ll be some interesting stuff happening around ResearchKit and the Watch too. It’d be silly if something wouldn’t spring up around that. And I think that we’ll also have to see what app developers do when they get their hands on an actual, full SDK and not whatever the hell they’ve had up until now. So we’ll have to wait until the fall or next year or whenever to see the fruits of some of that work. And anyway, I really need to go and get ready for bed, which is unfortunate because this isn’t actually a bad discussion (thank you all!), but I’m not sure I could actually in good faith tell anyone except people interested in the tech industry and maybe people in certain industries that they would benefit from having the Watch. I think it’s cool. I’m probably getting one. But do I *need* it? Not now. Maybe not even in the future. The market for this could turn out to be small! But maybe it doesn’t. I heard somewhere someone say something like people who have the watch find themselves using the phone less and less. The Watch could keep taking on more functionality that the phone used to have. Maybe at some point you don’t even need the phone when you go out. It’s hard to see that happening though because of screen size issues. We’ll have to see whether the Watch becomes a minor computing platform or a major one. Maybe the next one is VR. Who knows. Anyway, I need to bolt.
― markers, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 04:41 (nine years ago) link
― brunch technician (silby), Tuesday, April 7, 2015 12:37 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
im sure working there is horrible and it is a horrible dystopian company, but i still want to use it, tho tbh a lot less since i moved back to ny from vt
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 04:41 (nine years ago) link
The Awl also has some good articles on the media. Look up Content Wars or w/e.
― markers, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 04:42 (nine years ago) link
OK, night.
one thing I feel pretty good about in my life is not having bought anything off amazon in a few years
also I quit facebook and don't own a tv
― Clay, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 04:44 (nine years ago) link
The Watch will have more compelling use cases later on. Right now it doesn’t have enough sensors to give us a more comprehensive overview of our health situation.
― markers, Tuesday, April 7, 2015 12:41 AM (12 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
literally the majority of americans are currently eating themselves to death, i assure you there is not a big market for health tracking, im prob in the top 5% (braggin) of healthy living americans and i dont even want to track my health! like you need to a. be interested in health and b. interested in tracking things, that precludes the vast majority of people
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 04:45 (nine years ago) link
as I've mentioned before I'm interested in the Watch b/c I want a watch
― brunch technician (silby), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 04:47 (nine years ago) link
its prob not a very good watch!
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 04:48 (nine years ago) link
i track my health by being mad at myself that i did less pushups today than yesterday
― Clay, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 04:48 (nine years ago) link
it has swappable watch faces!
― brunch technician (silby), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 04:49 (nine years ago) link
― Clay, Tuesday, April 7, 2015 12:48 AM (51 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
same, u shdnt do pullups every day tho, remember recovery is just as important as yr workout, maybe even more, recovery is the point of yr workout in fact
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 04:50 (nine years ago) link
im prob in the top 5% (braggin) of healthy living americans
― lag∞n, Tuesday, April 7, 2015 12:45 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this is def an exaggeration tho
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 04:52 (nine years ago) link
i want to start doing pullups actually, just haven't gotten started. my entire workout routine is "try to walk more" and basically doing crunches and pushups in sets of 30 until i am like "i definitely need to stop doing this"
― Clay, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 04:52 (nine years ago) link
i thought u were lifting
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 04:53 (nine years ago) link
dude i weigh like 125 lbs what am i even going to lift, a tiny rock?
― Clay, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 04:54 (nine years ago) link
lift whatever u can man its good!
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 04:55 (nine years ago) link
oh i do some 10lb dumbbell curls while watching basketball sometimes
― Clay, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 04:55 (nine years ago) link
between hilarious posts on ilxor.com
I sometimes lift my cat up and tell him he's a baby
― brunch technician (silby), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 04:55 (nine years ago) link
lol
u shd to thrusters instead of curls imho good compound full body lift
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 04:56 (nine years ago) link
i will try to remember to youtube "thrusters" during the next episode of inside the nba
― Clay, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 04:57 (nine years ago) link
my personal trainer is the john gruber thread
― Clay, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 04:58 (nine years ago) link
good choice now u just need APPLEwatch and u will be totes ripped
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 05:00 (nine years ago) link
alternating sets of thrusters and burpees then u cn be on the crossfit games
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 05:01 (nine years ago) link
oh man i learned about burpees a few weeks ago and that shit is rough
― Clay, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 05:02 (nine years ago) link
particularly because one of my legs is kinda crappy, all that quick standing wears me down pretty quick
― Clay, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 05:04 (nine years ago) link
yeah i dont really f w them tbh i fell like they are just really hard to coordinate and hurt yr toes, especially if u do them to exhaustion like those lunatics
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 05:04 (nine years ago) link
yeah i don't wanna be crazy i just wanna kick men's asses
― Clay, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 05:06 (nine years ago) link
theres an ecersize thats supposedly for surfers thats just the popping up part except you land in like a surfing stance its suposed to mimick getting up on ur board which is nice for ur core that ive done before and is more mellow
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 05:07 (nine years ago) link
mostly if do differ core stuff tho: planks, boat pose etc
burpees basically gave me vertigo and made me dizzy and i was like hm no
― Clay, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 05:09 (nine years ago) link
theyre maybe good if u get used to them idk tho i suspect like all shit crossfit is into theyre mostly designed to injure u
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 05:10 (nine years ago) link