Doctor Who 2008: Sontarans cometh, RTD Ood 'ave 'im etc.

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It appears to have been one of the frst, i not the actual first, to have been filmed.

I was disappointed watching it, but after I immediately wanted to watch it again. The first half seemed overly hasty and a few things like the reveal of the Unicorn (ie the sudden gor blimey guv'nor accent) and the lengthy bit of slapstick business I didn't much like, and it was too obviously going to be the vicar who dunnit.
But any of the moments with Agatha or Donna were great. And Gordon Henry Jago!

DavidM, Sunday, 18 May 2008 10:09 (sixteen years ago) link

damn keyboard

DavidM, Sunday, 18 May 2008 10:10 (sixteen years ago) link

Good ep, finally. Wasp thing a bit jarring, but otherwise great.

Stay out of the shadows?! God I love Moffat.

Autumn Almanac, Sunday, 18 May 2008 11:16 (sixteen years ago) link

I thought that one was absolutely terrific, best in the series so far. Which considering it was by the guy who wrote The Shakespeare Code is saying something. I loved how the whole Unicorn thing was a massive red herring.

Also, there is nothing scarier than a giant wasp. Except an enormous creepy empty library with shadows that kill people. There's no way the next couple won't be awesome.

Matt DC, Sunday, 18 May 2008 14:58 (sixteen years ago) link

it could've been scarier/more exciting somehow but it was a good romp

blueski, Sunday, 18 May 2008 16:01 (sixteen years ago) link

Yes, a good romp. Even the dodgy bits (like the sudden gor-blimey accent) seemed like pretty accurate piss-takes of the way alleged "genius" Christie wrote.

James Morrison, Monday, 19 May 2008 04:27 (sixteen years ago) link

Also liked...

"It says 'maiden'."
"MAIDEN!" (Christie jumps in startlement) "What does that mean?"

and the detox bit was fun.

James Morrison, Monday, 19 May 2008 04:27 (sixteen years ago) link

I liked all the references to Christie book titles, not to mention the Lady Chatterley's Lover joke near the end. The end was slightly spoiled by the rather rubbish "yes we really are in Harrogate, honest" scene.

Was slightly disappeointed by the lack of references to archaeology - although, yes, I know it was her second husband who was the famous archaeologist - but am looking forward to next week's archaeologists in a library! Archaeologists! In a library! How could it possible go wrong?

Forest Pines Mk2, Monday, 19 May 2008 13:09 (sixteen years ago) link

it's not on til the Saturday after next but apparently there's a special preview of the rest of the series (as they did last year) just befoer EuroViz

blueski, Monday, 19 May 2008 13:13 (sixteen years ago) link

also i dunno where The Stolen Earth title came from for the penultimate episode but this episode's title seems to be unconfirmed still with the only clues being it's three words and one of those words is a planet (but not necess Earth). hmm.

blueski, Monday, 19 May 2008 13:14 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh, good - because if it was on this Saturday, I'd miss it anyway.

Forest Pines Mk2, Monday, 19 May 2008 13:16 (sixteen years ago) link

it's three words and one of those words is a planet (but not necess Earth)

Pff, Skaro then.

JimD, Monday, 19 May 2008 18:05 (sixteen years ago) link

maybe BARCELONA

blueski, Monday, 19 May 2008 19:11 (sixteen years ago) link

London

Herman G. Neuname, Monday, 19 May 2008 19:12 (sixteen years ago) link

the Doctor treats Davros to a slap up feed at Planet Hollywood

blueski, Monday, 19 May 2008 19:31 (sixteen years ago) link

If Davros does show up, I'm kind of excited about the inevitable Daleks.

chap, Monday, 19 May 2008 19:43 (sixteen years ago) link

Have they ever explained how the Time War and (virtually) destroying the Daleks throughout all of time is supposed to have worked?

Matt DC, Monday, 19 May 2008 19:51 (sixteen years ago) link

it's three words and one of those words is a planet (but not necess Earth)

Best of all possible options would be Gallifrey, but yeah of course it's Earth.

Matt DC, Monday, 19 May 2008 19:55 (sixteen years ago) link

Time War and (virtually) destroying the Daleks throughout all of time is supposed to have worked?

Best to keep it mysterious I reckon, any detailed explanation is bound to be poppycock (unless they gave Moffat like five years to work on it).

chap, Monday, 19 May 2008 20:13 (sixteen years ago) link

hurrah stolen planets again

Alan, Monday, 19 May 2008 21:58 (sixteen years ago) link

Oooh, Davros could redeem it.

Autumn Almanac, Monday, 19 May 2008 22:59 (sixteen years ago) link

Finally finished "Genesis of the Daleks." Peter Miles is still around and did quite a great job, why not have him pop up at some point?

kingfish, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 01:01 (sixteen years ago) link

Stephen Hawking as Davros could redeem it.

I started watching Mawdryn Undead last night. Dual timelines! Stuff happening in the past affecting stuff happening now! It's great! Don't know why Who doesn't do more of that kind of thing really.

JimD, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 08:50 (sixteen years ago) link

Blink did that very well, but yeah definitely need more of it.

Am I right in thinking subsequent old and new stories have trampled over the continuity for Genesis somewhat?

(Genesis is FAR AND AWAY the best thing in that series incidentally, unless Revenge of the Cybermen gets radically better in the second half).

Matt DC, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 08:52 (sixteen years ago) link

Not really.

Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 08:58 (sixteen years ago) link

RTD has claimed the events of Genesis constitue the very first act of the time war.

JimD, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 09:02 (sixteen years ago) link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_War_(Doctor_Who)

JimD, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 09:23 (sixteen years ago) link

It's been ERASED FROM EXISTENCE!

Matt DC, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 09:24 (sixteen years ago) link

Hmm.

Time War

JimD, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 09:59 (sixteen years ago) link

RTD has claimed the events of Genesis constitue the very first act of the time war.

demand for their recent world tour is certainly fervent

blueski, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 11:47 (sixteen years ago) link

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7411177.stm

treefell, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 15:47 (sixteen years ago) link

That is:
Bafta-winning Writer Steven Moffat will succeed Davies as lead writer and executive producer of the fifth series of Doctor Who.

treefell, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 15:50 (sixteen years ago) link

BIG SMILEY FACE

Matt DC, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 15:59 (sixteen years ago) link

FUCK YES!!

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 16:20 (sixteen years ago) link

VERY GOOD NEWS

JimD, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 16:21 (sixteen years ago) link

does this mean it won't be shit anymore?

DG, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 16:25 (sixteen years ago) link

SM must go!

DavidM, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 16:31 (sixteen years ago) link

Watch Saturday's episode be k-lame now.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 16:41 (sixteen years ago) link

according to one blogger, Moffat will install Richard Coyle as the Doc and Gina Bellman as The Rani with the two pairing up at the end of s5 to the tune of 'Perhaps Perhaps Perhaps'

blueski, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 16:54 (sixteen years ago) link

Which considering it was by the guy who wrote The Shakespeare Code is saying something.

Hahaha that's hilarious. The Christie episode was a lot of excitement and fun, and the whole time I was thinking "this is a million times better for a famous author romp than that Shakespeare & Martha flirtathon embarrassment."

Abbott, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 17:09 (sixteen years ago) link

That wipe transition, though...kept getting Wayne's World flashbacks. I know it was for the laughs, though.

John told me on some other forum a bunch of Americans were like "dude why was this ep so fucking queer" etc etc, and...it wasn't? What is the deal with the problems and minor offences of some of my fellow humans?

Abbott, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 17:11 (sixteen years ago) link

Bafta-winning Writer Steven Moffat will succeed Davies as lead writer and executive producer of the fifth series of Doctor Who.

News full of win!

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 19:31 (sixteen years ago) link

It seems a bit ridic that in an episode with both mild gay flirtation and A WOMAN FUCKING A SPACE WASP it's the gays that are getting the tongue-wagging.

So if RTD is stepping down, does that mean Tennant's leaving after the specials as well? I heard somewhere that Davies wasn't planning on leaving until he did.

reddening, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 20:51 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm so worried how they'll deal with the # of timelord regenerations. Will they find a loophole? I don't want the show to stop bcz they had to recycle actors too often.

Abbott, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 20:52 (sixteen years ago) link

If anyone can fanwank the regeneration problem convincingly, it would be Steven Moffat.

Nicole, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 21:16 (sixteen years ago) link

YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES.

Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 21:29 (sixteen years ago) link

(to the news)

Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 21:29 (sixteen years ago) link

because Davies has nothing more to give to the show. He's done brilliant things and now it's time to hand it on.

Tennant's obviously going soon too.

Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 21:32 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah I think it'll be goodbye Rusty, goodbye Tennant, then a mini reboot. I will miss Tennant quite a bit now.

I thought we knew RTD was going from ages back, just didn't know who his replacement would be? Anyway, this'll be great, frankly Rusty can do whatever ludicrous bombastic shit he wants for the season finale now because we know it's in safe hands.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 21:34 (sixteen years ago) link

DAVROS

Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 21:40 (sixteen years ago) link


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