Free Speech and Creepy Liberalism

nobody asks me where i'm "really" from, i'm white

they probably don't give a shit about where you're from bc you look like every other white dude

oh another american with german ancestry wow

'a plainsman, by the look of you'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S07Bp2wBylw

People don't ask me where I'm from because the name of my city is tattooed on my face

"your race is interesting to me right this second, and it does not belong here, discuss it with me politely"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjjNOwdvVS4

i understand that some ppl are offended about being asked about their family heritage but i am going to remain skeptical that it's intended as a "microaggression."

"how dare you be interested in me and my background. fuck you."

the whole concept of "microaggression", take is as you will, or really white supremacy in toto, is that intent is immaterial

"microaggressions" tenuous relationship to reality is a bug imo, not a feature

well, we all learn who our friends are one way or another

is there a clear line between microaggression and garden-variety passive aggression? or is MA distinguished as being limited only to the ways race/class/gender are baked into minor social interactions?

You know some troll is going to be reporting slights to his Anglo Saxon Cis background ten times a day

I object to "microaggression" on the grounds that it's a silly word. I give it two more years before no one with a clue still says it, and five more before nobody says it and it becomes terminology of the past.

UNLESS: if people start attaching "micro" willy-nilly to other nominalizations, then all bets are off. I don't see it coming but who knows, maybe we are dumb enough as a people to start saying "microinvitation" "microsalutation" "microencouragement" "microvalidation". Yikes. Gives me the Micro Heebee Jeebees.

Wait till the intelligent nanotech comes for us. Once we experience nanoaggressions, we will regard microaggressions with loving nostalgia.

come on, mordy

when it's said to people of color, it means "account for your existence." i don't need anything done to people who are dumb in that way, but i'm going to call them dumb.

like the lady who told me that i speak "really well english" when she had come to the end of a bewildering barrage of such questions that one time in college. she was dumb.

idk obv in a country where birtherism is a thing it would be a mistake to underestimate ppl so I can't account for every incident but in my world of Jewish ppl it is a question that is asked in some form a lot and it always means what is Do not come out of your room again

Lol omg that is hilarious my phone took my talking to my daughter as dictation and posted that's good enough reason for me to say good night lol

haha aw

I always assumed the question was a means for dummies to determine from which national drawer to pull out their cheesy stereotypical lines

lol Mordy.

I always assumed the question was a means for dummies to determine from which national drawer to pull out their cheesy stereotypical lines

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"Hey there. Where are you from? Cool, Asheville? Awesome, wanna fuck?"

more like "Do you know how make sushi? I love to eat raw fish."

"microaggressions" always makes me think of micro machines and I just imagine someone being racist really fast.

and it always means what is Do not come out of your room again

:)

I'm just saying it's a question that gets asked in earnest MISSY You Are in Timeout!!!

#NoDads has never been more relevant

I think the discourse around race on campus has become Okay, five more minutes, but then you are getting dressed no complaining

http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/closing-campus-mind_899943.html

i have a friend who has been sharing horror stories w/ me from their education grad program and i wonder if these programs are the real problems - not squabbling undergrads but entire departments that have signed onto exclusive ideological projects

Same as it ever was

i know someone that attended that school and program--and from her reports it definitely seemed...intense. there were a LOT of little blowups on facebook groups, confrontations with faculty, etc. im sure this article will provoke quite a hubbub there. social work strikes me as a special case, however, since it's "activist" by its very nature and therefore a certain amount of ideological exclusion is inevitable and maybe necessary. this is ok so long as we aren't forced to accept that social workers have the final say on social reality.

like, there's plenty of ideological chaos in those programs, but if conservatism (broadly defined) were to be included i dont think the field could claim much coherence!

there are conservatives who spend all their time helping the less fortunate, and even some who think laissez fair economics promotes economic equality -- or at least has the power to raise the median living standard.

these people are deluded, and are clearly ignoring glaring contradictions in their own worldview but then again don't we all. i think they should still be allowed to become social workers. that is a field that calls for people to be kind and helpful on an individual basis, and political orientation doesn't tell you much about someone's capacity to be those things

lots of "social justice educators" i've known are great. but a few have been real assholes and i'm sure they cause emotional damage to their students just on the basis of their general vituperativeness. having good intentions in an abstract sense doesn't always translate to how you treat people in the real world. don't know about other fields, but i imagine a similar thing is at play in social work. screening for "conservatives" misses the point of what really matters.

i stood when the category “working class” was called out, naïvely not realizing that there were nonworking classes in America.

wait this person is in grad school?

^^^

Full disclosure I didn't know that either until age 23 or so, but I'm a dumb hick from the Calvinist backwater.

iirc, Hunter explicitly brands itself as a "social justice" oriented program, which would seem to bar conservative points of view from having much purchase there.

i think they should still be allowed to become social workers.

im sympathetic to this, but if you, say, deny the existence of structural racism im not sure how good a social worker you can be and im sympathetic to a social work program not wanting to hand out degrees to such people.

maybe i'm really confused about the function of social workers (nb, my sister-in-law's father is a social worker) but my impression was that it had to do w/ helping ppl directly and nothing to do w/ theories of inequality.

like if someone is suffering and you attribute it to something other than "structural racism," that doesn't prevent you from helping them secure food, housing, apply for programs that benefit them, etc. i'm coming around to the idea that the only ethical position is total political apathy bc too many ppl seem to confuse having political opinions for being a good human. (TS terrible human w/ the right politics V. kind human w/ the wrong politics)

there's different kinds, most social workers are on a "clinical" track which, as you say, is more individual oriented. but i think these "social justice" oriented programs are probably newer and, yes, a bit more ideologically inclined to be social activists.

re "working class," i assumed she was snarking at the idea that only some ppl 'work' (those who need a euphemism for lower class? or blue collar?) v. "middle" class or "upper" class. it's absurd bc obv we understand culturally what "working class" is supposed to mean, but is it any more absurd than the status quo beliefs about class? ie that like 90% of americans identify as "middle" class?

i'm coming around to the idea that the only ethical position is total political apathy bc too many ppl seem to confuse having political opinions for being a good human

what's that phrase? "never let morality get in the way of doing the right thing."

i have a very close friend i used to work w/ when i was in education. she is an incredibly talented (and successful) behavioral psychologist who specializes in early intervention for children w/ autism + add. we used to commute together 2 hours a day and she was completely uninterested in politics of any form. this disinterest made her no less successful in her work or less able to make effective interventions that improved the quality of her students' lives.

my only point that i think certain ideological inclinations are baked into any profession, and only moreso in many forms of social work. im sure we could cook up pretty outlandish scenarios where someones ideological beliefs make awarding them a degree in science or history would be a farce...it's up to these programs to, for the most part, determine what their standards are. Hunter is pretty up front about what theirs are.

the argument isnt so much about being a good person but about accreditation.