who in this bitch reads robert jordan? -- The Wheel of Time thread

and yes i know that i am basically making a stupid starry eyed argument in favor of the gentle nature of a series of books that at one point features an army of half-insane wizards magically chewing another army of surely underpaid family-having working class men into a pulp. xp

i agree with you! my favorite aspect of martin's series is the King Arthur-esque backstory rather than the grim "realism."

I want to say farseer trilogy tbh and there's other series I like a lot but grrm and Jordan are the heavyweights and I hardly think that eg eddings compares

i'm not really interested in the game of thrones tv show but i appreciate how it exposes GRRM's "realism" and political machinations and stuff as just trashy cinemax thriller rehash.

and yeah the farseer trilogy is very good

i'm not really interested in the game of thrones tv show but i appreciate how it exposes GRRM's "realism" and political machinations and stuff as just trashy cinemax thriller rehash.

otm. although, i think there's something essentially "conservative" about a lot of the fantasy im familiar with in that it often posits a medieval society that doesn't seem all that bad. couldnt help but notice that in A Memory of Light how often something like benign leadership of monarchs, etc, is invoked. but somehow i dont think Martin's books are gonna amount to a defense of modernity...

Ned's always good for a rec or two in that other thread there's a few lighter trilogies or series in train at the moment that I'd put above the Sanderson ive read, patrick rothfuss certainly and the Locke lamora stuff but this isnt to say it goes toe-to-toe with Jordan for scope or anything

it's funny you mention gene wolfe. what happened to his reputation? i was gonna read that to scratch a post-WOT itch...

yeah tons of this stuff is at least in part super reactionary, especially from american writers, a lot of imagined harkening back to an albion ruled by benevolent kings and chaste maids etc, but i personally find some value in being presented a world with an inherent moral order to which its actors generally adhere. that the actors in service of good are generally the rich and well born (or the secretly well born with a heroes journey raising him to his proper station) is problematic but i only have so much energy.

sorry for "problematic"

ah no i was driving

i mentioned gene wolfe as a good example of idk you'll find people that are crazy enthusiastic for his stuff, happy to put it up against anything in the genre (pashmina and the late great of this parish for instance iirc). a pocket of very very strong enthusiasm kind of thing which i feel that, despite bestseller numbers in the past decade or two, the WOT is heading for- call it a disposability or lack of connection to the zeitgeist or w/e- it may simply be that there was other stuff that crossed over to tv better or that may even be fitting the events to the theory overmuch, that maybe every five or ten years has it's big fantasy series and only a very rare few break beyond the genre market, with tolkien the obvious example for fantasy.

i mean something's got to be top of the fantasy bestseller lists at any given time i guess

ive tried wolfe btw, didnt find it compelling but i might do now that im finished evening classes and can read guilt-free again

https://plus.google.com/103674399065634804648/posts/1aeEKJiqdeF

The following is a press statement that has been approved by the studio involved in contract negotiations:

Update: Wanted to share with you exciting news about The Wheel of Time. Legal issues have been resolved. The Wheel of Time will become a cutting edge TV series! I couldn’t be more pleased. Look for the official announcement coming soon from a major studio —Harriet 

this cannot be good

Google+, for a start.

So...Amazon's doing this *and* Tolkien?

https://io9.gizmodo.com/the-long-awaited-wheel-of-time-tv-series-is-heading-to-1829463189

Hm hm hm.

Please welcome Rosamund Pike to the Wheel of Time family. Say hello to Moiraine. #WoTWednesday pic.twitter.com/577Hffwy6Y

— Wheel of Time Writers' Room (@WoTWritersRoom) June 19, 2019

hope she likes wearing skirts divided for riding

That is some excellent casting.

is there going to be bathing in this

I'm wondering now who they're going to cast as Nynaeve

Actually, before she blew up in the Avengers movies I might have suggested Karen Gillan

good start that

nynaeve

and look i know the age aint right now, and maybe not even back in 96 or whenever

marcia gay harden

This is going to be stupid and terrible and I will watch all of it

Generally it’s best to cast one person people have heard about and a bunch of nobodies- if we get many more casting announcements like this with well known actors then it’s going to be really dumb and awful and I’ll still watch it

dont ask me why but never really saw any of em clearly while reading except for asmodean, who was macho man randy savage

that is a very goodlooking cast

obv they were all white kids in my head

lan was like Azerbaijani obv tho

The dude playing Rand looks a little too much like a generic movie Marine

Nynaeve otoh 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

I hope dude playing Perrin is tall

idnr if perrin was like, tall tall like rand

dude has to be heavy in the shoulders obv

I have this mental image of Perrin towering over Rand and Mat but that may have been my mind translating "broad shoulders" into "is built like Kingpin in Into the Spiderverse"

I mean Moraine is supposed to be like three-foot tall or something

but yeah, Perrin is definitely more broad than tall

just as long as lan moves like animated batman its ok

good posts itt

adams description of GRRM as tits-and-ambiguity killed me again

that is a very goodlooking cast

― phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 18:07 (three weeks ago) bookmarkflaglink

^^^^^

Although rationally speaking it doesn’t really make sense for the two rivers crew to be so ethnically diverse (other than to make Rand the sole obvious outlier, which would kill at least some of the dramatic tension early on), at some irrational feels level if I had been asked how to split them up I totally would have done it the same way.

Perhaps that’s just buying into some cliched conception of “white dudes = gormless and goofily hopeless” as Rand and Mat tend to be for much of the first few books, but if one upshot is the actors playing Nynaeve and Egwene looking ready to dominate absolutely everything in sight then I am totally here for it.

Somewhat relatedly, one wish I have for the show is that, in the course of streamlining things, they tone down some of Nynaeve’s quirks. Egwene on the other hand can remain exactly as she is in the books.

One change I'm expecting is that other people will constantly be tugging on Nynaeve's braid

lol

LAN:

https://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/stg.ign.com/2019/09/lan-mandrogoran-daniel-henney-wheel-of-time-1567606534222_1280w-720x405.jpg?fit=bounds&width=640&height=480

About 200% less craggy than you'd expect tbh

jason momoa too buff but i think hed have stopped lifting if asked

Momoa already has what looks like a pretty baller series coming out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__6VUXvCykI

this is relevant to my interests

yeah it looks really, really interesting

I probably will never see it because fuck subscribing to yet another streaming service but it looks neat

uh yeah subscribing legally to the service yeah that's how ill watch it sure

How Many Times Does Braid-Tugging and Skirt-Smoothing Happen in The Wheel of Time?

At least as often as forehead knuckling, no?

Ha, I see the link addresses "mustache knuckling" but I thought for sure it was more often forehead knuckling.

divided skirts aka skirts divided for riding
smoothing skirts
moustaches
knuckling
'fortune prick me'
tugging on braid
stout (two rivers) woolens
blushing
'enough to make a tinker blush'
sniffed
necklines vis-a-vis bosoms
sawing at reins
eyes-and-ears
tucking gauntlets behind belt
blacksmith's puzzle
horse types (particularly geldings)
every inn/horse must have a name
arms folded under her breasts
thumbing a pipe with tabac

imo

Something tomorrow. Trailer?

Wednesday approaches 🗡

— The Wheel of Time (@WOTonPrime) December 2, 2020

Low hopes for this so not worried as such

black ajah

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Hey, spoilers!