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Four suspects now in custody and a fifth apparently killed himself with a grenade when the police came for him in Grozny, which is likely to be taken with a pinch of salt.

Rainbow DAESH (ShariVari), Sunday, 8 March 2015 09:24 (nine years ago) link

Kadyrov has issued an odd statement on Instagram (obvs) calling Zaur Dadayev, who has apparently confessed, a great patriotic hero for his service in antiterrorist operations in Chechnya but also saying that he had had left the army for unknown reasons a while ago and hinting he might have gone off the deep end about Charlie Hebdo.

Rainbow DAESH (ShariVari), Sunday, 8 March 2015 19:58 (nine years ago) link

There's definitely something odd going on. Putin hasn't been seen for ten days and will, in theory, return for a meeting with the Kyrgyz president today.

Separately, a number of high-profile opposition activists, including Ksenia Sobchak, have been apparently given a heads-up by the FSB that the people who organised the Nemtsov murder are also after them. Sobchak has left Russia but it looks like a few very close Putin allies have also left abruptly with no explanation, including Vladislav Surkov - Putin's chief advisor on a number of issues, including the Caucasus.

This has led to speculation about attempted coups, rogue units in the Chechen special forces, a Kadyrov power-grab, an anti-Kadyrov campaign, etc, etc.

Kadyrov has affirmed his loyalty to Putin via Instagram but fueled the speculation by saying that the loyalty was independent of whether he was president.

It may well all be blown up out of proportion but the failure to manage the sense that something strange is happening is telling in itself.

Rainbow DAESH (ShariVari), Monday, 16 March 2015 07:26 (nine years ago) link

For example, Hromadske, the Ukrainian US-backed new organisation:

http://youtu.be/f358z2_PMXo

The suggestion there is that there is an open conflict between the Kadyrov clan and the FSB (Russian state security bureau) and that Putin, who has very strong ties to Kadyrov, is caught in the middle.

Rainbow DAESH (ShariVari), Monday, 16 March 2015 07:36 (nine years ago) link

Viktor Yanukovich Jr. may or may not have drowned at the weekend. Nobody seems to know for sure.

Lots going on in Ukraine. The oligarch Ihor Kolomoisky, governor of Dnipropetrovsk, seems to have led an armed gang into the headquarters of a state oil firm to take issue with the sacking of the director. He funds a variety of militia groups at the moment, which Poroshenko is attempting to tame. The president is quoted as saying there will be no "pocket armies" and has sent two battalions of special forces troops to the city to "keep order". It has the capacity to turn uglier.

Separately, Kolomoisky was accused of a string of murders in a civil case in London between him, Bogolyubov and Pinchuk.

Rainbow DAESH (ShariVari), Monday, 23 March 2015 18:09 (nine years ago) link

More on the Kolomoisky / Poroshenko spat:

http://www.kyivpost.com/content/kyiv-post-plus/fight-between-kolomoisky-and-state-turns-ugly-384323.html

Rainbow DAESH (ShariVari), Tuesday, 24 March 2015 19:16 (nine years ago) link

Kolomoisky has now officially been fired as governor of Dniepro for the armed raid on the gas company. That was kind of inevitable if the President is going to have any kind of meaningful authority but you now have a guy with no formal ties to the state bankrolling private militias with approx 15k soldiers. Even before he was fired, some of his supporters were talking about a new anti-Poroshenko Maidan. Hopefully won't come to anything but it's a grim prospect.

Rainbow DAESH (ShariVari), Wednesday, 25 March 2015 05:35 (nine years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/iqNufkG.jpg

lol

Rainbow DAESH (ShariVari), Tuesday, 31 March 2015 07:43 (nine years ago) link

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There's definitely something odd going on. Putin hasn't been seen for ten days and will, in theory, return for a meeting with the Kyrgyz president today.

Separately, a number of high-profile opposition activists, including Ksenia Sobchak, have been apparently given a heads-up by the FSB that the people who organised the Nemtsov murder are also after them. Sobchak has left Russia but it looks like a few very close Putin allies have also left abruptly with no explanation, including Vladislav Surkov - Putin's chief advisor on a number of issues, including the Caucasus.

This has led to speculation about attempted coups, rogue units in the Chechen special forces, a Kadyrov power-grab, an anti-Kadyrov campaign, etc, etc.

Kadyrov has affirmed his loyalty to Putin via Instagram but fueled the speculation by saying that the loyalty was independent of whether he was president.

It may well all be blown up out of proportion but the failure to manage the sense that something strange is happening is telling in itself."

― Rainbow DAESH (ShariVari), lunes 16 de marzo de 2015 7:26

So any idea what all that was about? Seems too odd for it to have been nothing.

.robin., Tuesday, 31 March 2015 08:45 (nine years ago) link

To be honest, not really. A lot of the speculation was overstated apparently - Sobchak never left, Surkov turned up two days later, etc.

The underlying theme of tension between Kadyrov and the FSB seems to have more weight to it, though, and there doesn't seem to be any explanation for Putin's vanishing act. There have been a lot of articles about Kadyrov pushing for a wider national role and issues with his militia being active outside of Chechnya (both overtly in Ukraine and covertly with targeted assassinations) but most of it has been from the Western press a lot is quite contradictory.

Rainbow DAESH (ShariVari), Tuesday, 31 March 2015 09:38 (nine years ago) link

thought this was interesting, on battery farming/crowdsourcing propaganda:

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/02/putin-kremlin-inside-russian-troll-house

sktsh, Thursday, 2 April 2015 10:19 (nine years ago) link

Yep, Shaun Walker has been doing some good stuff lately.

Ethnically Ambiguous / 28 - 45 (ShariVari), Thursday, 2 April 2015 11:11 (nine years ago) link

http://nationalinterest.org/feature/face-the-coming-war-between-armenia-azerbaijan-12585

This seems to be kicking off again. Idk whether all-out war is likely.

Ethnically Ambiguous / 28 - 45 (ShariVari), Thursday, 9 April 2015 16:28 (nine years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/dhXBbCD.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/eHpDA0V.jpg

^ senior delegation from the Armenian-American community meeting the PM in Yerevan for crisis talks.

Ethnically Ambiguous / 28 - 45 (ShariVari), Thursday, 9 April 2015 22:12 (nine years ago) link

Kim was certainly learning a lot on her day sight-seeing in Armenia's second largest city.

Indeed the 34-year-old looked genuinely moved, not to mention a little overwhelmed, as she later visited the overgrown ruins of her modest ancestral family home.

With rusted sheet metal walls, no roof, and piles of rubble and debris littering the site, the long neglected location was surely a stark reality check for the pampered reality star.

nakhchivan, Saturday, 11 April 2015 20:16 (nine years ago) link

As a way to boost awareness of the Armenian genocide for its 100th anniversary this seems slightly more dignified and effective than i would have expected on paper.

Ethnically Ambiguous / 28 - 45 (ShariVari), Sunday, 12 April 2015 08:34 (nine years ago) link

Good article from the pro-Ukraine, pro-free-speech Kharkiv Human Rights Protection Group on the astonishing new laws being put through the Rada:

http://khpg.org/en/index.php?id=1428632777

They appear to not just give full legal status to the wartime Ukrainian Insurgent Army (who massacred Poles and Jewish Ukrainians) but will ban questioning their legitimacy as a 'denigration of the dignity of the Ukrainian people'.As things stand, the Wiesenthal centre, for example, would fall foul of this.

At the same time, communist symbols / propaganda and the denial of the 'criminal nature' of the 1917 - 1991 regime have been prohibited.

The package of bills was presented in parliament and largely drawn up by the head of the Institute for National Remembrance Volodymyr Viatrovych. The latter was head of the SBU [Security Service] archives under Yushchenko and became widely known for his strong support for nationalist leaders Stepan Bandera and Roman Shukhevych, and OUN-UPA. His works as a historian, for example, his attempts to present the Volyn Massacre “in a wider context” as part of an alleged Polish-Ukrainian war from 1942-1947 have prompted criticism, both from historians and from the wider public. Concern has often been expressed, including by the author of these words, over historical manipulation of facts or downright inaccuracies.

Poland has similar(ish) laws on the books but a much less divisive context. Aside from whether they are right or wrong, it's difficult to see this as anything other than another potentially destabilising move and a boost to the Russian propaganda machine selling the Ukrainian government as far-right ethno-nationalists.

Ethnically Ambiguous / 28 - 45 (ShariVari), Tuesday, 14 April 2015 08:46 (nine years ago) link

Will read that, but not before expressly wishing that SOAD had been there with Kim et al

PORC EPIC SAVVAGE (imago), Tuesday, 14 April 2015 08:49 (nine years ago) link

Anyway, good article. I especially like how it loses its composure when speaking with no little implication of 'other totally fascist ideologies'. That first law seems utterly bonkers and creepy as fuck.

PORC EPIC SAVVAGE (imago), Tuesday, 14 April 2015 08:58 (nine years ago) link

a boost to the Russian propaganda machine selling the Ukrainian government as far-right ethno-nationalists.

weird how the latter keep falling into this trap huh

Despite some odd provocations (like being pictured with a Stepan Bandera patch on his military shirt) i don't think Poroshenko could really be classed as a far-right ethno-nationalist and there is a fair proportion of the new Ukrainian political set-up that is reasonably liberal but they're over a barrel at the moment.

On one side, you've got the armed right-wing militias who have propped up the army and expect something in return, on the other you've got a lot of nationalist parliamentarians who have been itching to do things like this for twenty years and are going full steam ahead now that the Russian-leaning population is no longer able to provide a democratic block on it.

It leads to stuff like this: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-32216738 Dmytro Yarosh, leader of Pravii Sektor, being appointed to a senior military role.

Clearly a terrible idea, clearly divisive at home and abroad but no political will / ability to stop it.

Ethnically Ambiguous / 28 - 45 (ShariVari), Tuesday, 14 April 2015 10:57 (nine years ago) link

Putin is doing his annual call-in, which apparently had 2.5m questions from the public raised this year. He's currently being dragged by a British dude who has been farming in Russia for 23 years over milk prices.

http://i.imgur.com/PmkTB1i.jpg?1

He has also confirmed the sale of the S-300 air defense system to Iran.

Ethnically Ambiguous / 28 - 45 (ShariVari), Thursday, 16 April 2015 10:17 (nine years ago) link

It looks like the Ukrainian journalist Olesya Buzina has been assassinated in Kyiv this morning.

This is either the ninth or the thirteenth suspicious death of people linked to the former government over the last few months, depending on who you ask. A former MP in Yanukovich's party, Oleg Kalashnikov, died of a gunshot yesterday:

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/15/ousted-ukraine-president-ally-shot-dead

Many of the deaths have been determined to be suicides by the authorities but fuel conspiracy theories about scores being settled. Suicide obvs not a plausible ruling in the Buzina case.

Anton Gerashenko, a senior official at the Ministry of Internal Affairs updated something along the lines of the following on his Facebook page:

It appears that the shooting of witnesses to the Anti-Maidan continues. Anyone who was involved in organising or financing the Anti-Maidan or any other illegal activities against the Maidan revolution and fears a threat to their life should contact the police so as not to follow Kalashnikov and Buzina

I'd imagine it's meant to suggest an internal squabble between anti-government forces but it's not exactly a good look.

Ethnically Ambiguous / 28 - 45 (ShariVari), Thursday, 16 April 2015 11:34 (nine years ago) link

Second journalist murdered in Kyiv in 24 hours. This is nuts.

Ethnically Ambiguous / 28 - 45 (ShariVari), Thursday, 16 April 2015 11:39 (nine years ago) link

!?!?

drash, Thursday, 16 April 2015 11:47 (nine years ago) link

Poroshenko statement:

The Head of State has emphasized the need for prompt and transparent investigation of those murders. “It is evident that these crimes have the same origin. Their nature and political sense are clear. It is a deliberate provocation that plays in favor of our enemies. It is aimed at destabilizing the internal political situation in Ukraine and discrediting the political choice of the Ukrainian people,” the Head of State said.

Petro Poroshenko has also noted that solving these resonant crimes was a matter of honor for the law enforcement bodies. “I demand the law enforcement bodies to find the executors and organizers of these murders in no time. Given the resonance of crimes, law enforcers should regularly inform the society on the results of their investigation,” the Ukrainian President emphasized.

It's practically a word-for-word copy of the Peskov statement on Nemtsov's murder - a "provocation" by enemies to "destabilize the internal political situation of the country".

Ethnically Ambiguous / 28 - 45 (ShariVari), Thursday, 16 April 2015 15:15 (nine years ago) link

Nazarbayev re-elected with 97.5% of the vote.

Petite Lamela (ShariVari), Sunday, 26 April 2015 20:39 (nine years ago) link

Kazakh leader likely to win new five-year term Nice call BBC!

irl sweatpants (Hunt3r), Sunday, 26 April 2015 20:55 (nine years ago) link

Dmytro Firtash, the Ukrainian oligarch with ties to everyone from Yushchenko to Yanukovich to, allegedly, Semion Mogilevich, has been stuck in Austria for over a year pending an extradition request from the US related to bribery charges. It's just been announced the Austrian court has refused on the grounds the charges were politically motivated.

Petite Lamela (ShariVari), Thursday, 30 April 2015 20:04 (nine years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSAEhGnRg5Y

pplains, Saturday, 9 May 2015 20:05 (nine years ago) link

Between 5 and 8 police officers were killed in Macedonia over the last 24 hours:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-32680904

Kumanovo is mostly Albanian and the fear is that the border region near Serbia might try to go the same way as Kosovo. There are a lot of the same economic and political grievances.

I'm with about a dozen people from Skopje at the moment who traveled by coach through the region just before it all kicked off on Friday night and they're worried all land borders will be closed by the time they need to go back on Monday.

Petite Lamela (ShariVari), Sunday, 10 May 2015 12:47 (nine years ago) link

macedonia is a bit of a stretch for the near abroad but low it

nakhchivan, Sunday, 10 May 2015 12:54 (nine years ago) link

yesterday i was thinking of doing a list of top, top atrocity anecdotes i have read from balkan history going from the ottomans torturing macedonian guerillas to death in caves, apis' subaltern mutilating the breast of the dead serbian queen, ustase collecting boxes of eyes in jasenovac, chetniks killing a partisan in sumadija through heart extraction, tito's secret police torturing to death dissidents in goli otok, serb irregulars sexually torturing to death bosniak conscripts.....as much as foreigners have gilded the brutality lily from ibn saqaliba to malaparte, there's a demonstrable recurrence of this sort of thing

nakhchivan, Sunday, 10 May 2015 13:05 (nine years ago) link

/ibn yacub's/

nakhchivan, Sunday, 10 May 2015 13:09 (nine years ago) link

Someone explained to me once that about 50% of the problems in the Balkans were caused by the jugo wind making people crazy. Not sure how convincing that was.

Petite Lamela (ShariVari), Monday, 11 May 2015 01:30 (nine years ago) link

Anyway. It looks like 22 dead in Macedonia with the blame being put on Kosovars. Supposedly the remnants of the KLA.

Petite Lamela (ShariVari), Monday, 11 May 2015 01:34 (nine years ago) link

Google news alert for "chetnik" finally pays off:

http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/article/serbia-rehabilitates-wwii-chetnik-leader-mihailovic

Petite Lamela (ShariVari), Thursday, 14 May 2015 18:30 (nine years ago) link

I've been meaning to read The Last Man In Russia for a while but haven't had the energy. Russian demographics are looking a bit better now than they have for a while (or at least, not much worse than a lot of European countries) but the damage done by alcohol during the 90s was immense and it remains a problem. A lot of those excess deaths (and 30% seems pretty high) are likely to be people who started drinking heavily in their thirties and pegged out not long after 50. There was a 60% increase in alcohol consumption between the late eighties and mid nineties, iirc. There are still countries with higher consumption of alcohol per capita (including Ireland) but they don't have huge Muslim populations to bring the average down.

The government has increased the price and is getting much tougher with retailers selling alcohol to minors (i have to take my passport everywhere if i want a drink and i haven't been 18 since Yeltsin) but it's going to take a long, long time to change.

Petite Lamela (ShariVari), Thursday, 14 May 2015 18:57 (nine years ago) link

It is a pretty dramatic jump from some of the quite hard drinking former Imperial Russia countries that are 6-7% to the 21-30% of Estonia and Russia. It might be an idea to encourage people to switch from the hard stuff to red wine because I get the feeling putting the price of vodka up will just encourage the unregulated stuff on the black market.

xelab, Thursday, 14 May 2015 20:08 (nine years ago) link

i remember reading a few years ago that about 60,000 a year in russia die from illicitly produced vodka laced with methanol or what have you

nakhchivan, Thursday, 14 May 2015 20:10 (nine years ago) link

Samogon is mostly ok if it's genuinely homemade but illegal industrial stills often add methanol and other stuff. Not just in Russia - some guys were jailed in the Czech Republic today for killing 50 people with methanol vodka last year. There's always a fear that it'll end up in shops so all vodka bottles are now tamper-proof and can't be refilled.

Another fairly common problem is people drinking cheap 99% alcohol "aftershave" or "muscle rub" - both sold in handy 250ml screwtop bottles.

Petite Lamela (ShariVari), Thursday, 14 May 2015 20:30 (nine years ago) link

The Duma has decided against a political investigation into the Nemtsov murder, apparently on the basis that it's not within their remit and should be left to the police. It was always highly unlikely / never gonna happen but it removes the only option I can see for openly questioning Kadyrov about his connections. Post-Nemtsov, it definitely looks like government critics are shifting some of the focus away from Putin and on to his problematic fave. The big scandal this week has been the lavish wedding Kadyrov oversaw between a decrepit 57-year-old chief of police and an understandably morose-looking 17-year-old girl.

Interesting piece on Peter Pomerantsev by Mark Ames at Pando:

http://pando.com/2015/05/17/neocons-2-0-the-problem-with-peter-pomerantsev/

Highlights that even some of the critics who are better, smarter and more nuanced than the shrill neocon cheerleaders have some very shady connections writing the cheques.

Petite Lamela (ShariVari), Monday, 18 May 2015 18:57 (nine years ago) link

he doesnt look too bad for 57 though

Yeah, tbf, he has taken care of himself.

There seems to be some confusion over whether he's still also married to his first wife.

Petite Lamela (ShariVari), Monday, 18 May 2015 19:10 (nine years ago) link

Alexei Mozgovoi, construction worker turned leader of the separatist Lugansk Prizrak brigade, has been assassinated along with his press secretary. He was probably the most visible face of the rebellion, post-Strelkov. He had been talking a lot over the last few days about the chances of the ceasefire holding being slim. Could have been offed by either side.

Petite Lamela (ShariVari), Saturday, 23 May 2015 18:13 (nine years ago) link

Saakashvili is being strongly tipped as the next governor of Odessa, presumably on the basis that they didn't suffer enough with the massacre.

Petite Lamela (ShariVari), Friday, 29 May 2015 19:29 (nine years ago) link

#Spokesman for Odessa regional Governor's office confirms on Facebook that Saakashvili to be introduced as Governor at 2.30 pm tomorrow.
9:09pm - 29 May 15

Absolutely astonishing.

Petite Lamela (ShariVari), Friday, 29 May 2015 20:24 (nine years ago) link


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