NEWSFLASH World Trade Centre NYC is on fire [Terrorist Action 11/9/2001

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Bin Laden warned of "unprecedented" U.S. attack-expert
LONDON, Sept 11 (Reuters) - Saudi dissident Osama bin Laden warned three weeks ago that he and his followers would carry out an unprecedented attack on U.S. interests for its support of Israel, an Arab journalist with access to him said on Tuesday.
Abdel-Bari Atwan, editor of the London-based al-Quds al-Arabi newspaper said Islamic fundamentalists led by bin Laden was "almost certainly" behind the attack of the World Trade Center in New York.
"It is most likely the work of Islamic fundamentalists. Osama bin Laden warned three weeks ago that he would attack American interests in an unprecedented attack, a very big one," Atwan told Reuters.
"Personally we received information that he planned very, very big attacks against American interests. We received several warnings like this. We did not take it so seriously, preferring to see what would happen before reporting it." Atwan has interviewed bin Laden and maintains close contacts with his followers.

― Nick, Tuesday, 11 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

another plane heading for washington, jet fighters chasing! what the fuck is going on?

― cabbage, Tuesday, 11 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Iraq - Saddam could have connections also to this evil.

― DJ Martian, Tuesday, 11 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

could someone in uk call 07860248417 for me and just tell me dada I'm ok. I can't get a line out of this city

tell him to try us mobile

thanks

― ed, Tuesday, 11 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Part of Pentagon collapsed, another plane in Western Pensylavana (sp) / Pittsburgh has reportely crashed.

― DJ Martian, Tuesday, 11 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

You can't pay people to do suicide bombings. Crashing a plane into a building = suicide bombing. Zealots & fundamentalists modus operandi.

― Pete, Tuesday, 11 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I think the us has plenty of enemies.

― Samantha, Tuesday, 11 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

You fund the groups not the individuals. the suicide people fundamentalists think they are doing an honour for their cause. Money goes to groups/ family etc.

― DJ Martian, Tuesday, 11 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Ed left a message on your dad's answering machine. Hope you're ok.

― Billy Dods, Tuesday, 11 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

No disrespect to people who have been killed, but I am seriously most scared about the US retaliation for this (if it is indeed an Arab attack)

― Nick, Tuesday, 11 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

that's the main topic here too Nick, Bush is going to unleash his gung-ho dogs

― cabbage, Tuesday, 11 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

facts - 50,000 people work in the World Trade Centre buildings.

― DJ Martian, Tuesday, 11 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

As well he should, there are probably tens of thousands of people dead. Like it or not you Brits are involved too.

― Lesley Higgins, Tuesday, 11 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I'm with Nick on this. Obviously this is horrific but I am sure America will demand a response, and will that response be measured and appropriate or just increase the loss of innocent life.

― Pete, Tuesday, 11 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

DJ Martian - surely most of these had time to evacuate before towers collapsed?
Lesley, I don't know what you mean. What are you saying Bush should do?

― Nick, Tuesday, 11 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

third-hand info via new statesman: "the city" ie london financial district is being evacuated (lotsa sirens heard in angel maybe 3.oo, none since, may be unrelated)

― mark s, Tuesday, 11 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

It is is Afghanistan/ taliban behind it, will the US - launch a full scale attack on the Taliban/ Afghan islamic fundamentalist state ?

― DJ Martian, Tuesday, 11 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Yeah, Stock Exchange (and Canary Wharf I think) has been evacuated as a precaution.

― Nick, Tuesday, 11 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

The evacuation effort was not finished, many were trapped - the elevators were destroyed, people were having to walk. Does anyone know when the tourist decks open up? I thought they were pretty early, like at 8 - WHERE THERE PEOPLE UP TOP????! That freaks me out completely. Plus all the transport goes thru there - a grand total of *2 million people* go thru WTC every single weekday.

― Ally, Tuesday, 11 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I am off work today ... Hoboken is a madhouse, cops and people running around like crazy. Air Force jets zooming overhead. People on the docks looking out at where the WTC was ... all train service in and out of Hoboken is shut down ... phone service intermittent, can't call my folks to tell them I'm OK

This is too fucked up for words ... I know people at the WTC

― Tadeusz Suchodolski, Tuesday, 11 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Camp David just got hit. WTF?

― Dan Perry, Tuesday, 11 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

"It is is" = "If it is"? (sorry djm to be pedantic, but it is NOT YET A FACT that it "is" the taliban or anyone else...)

there is still profound controversy over who was behind the berlin disco bombing (which libya was bombed for) and lockerbie

(I am suddenly extremely aware of the sounds of aeroplanes as they fly over central london)

― mark s, Tuesday, 11 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Sirens started going in Kingston about 3pm as well, presumably heading into London.

― Richard Tunnicliffe, Tuesday, 11 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I would assume NOTHING abt who is resonsible for this. Remember the mcveigh bombing, and all the assumptins that were made then. I hope monkey-boy, or his advisers have the wisdom to realise this

― Norman Fay, Tuesday, 11 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Just heard from KJ mailing list - Alex in NYC is safe.

― DJ Martian, Tuesday, 11 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Evac plans for a building like the WTC would work on a zoning system, suitable for fire and often meaning that people in the higher areas would not get out for 20 minutes. This is assuming that everything is free from debris and structurally sound. It is impossible to make a building on that scale easy to evacuate - you just make them more fireproof. WHich does not help in a situation like this.

― Pete, Tuesday, 11 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

This is so fucked up ... I can't even think straight

― Tadeusz Suchodolski, Tuesday, 11 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I saw too too much.

― ed, Tuesday, 11 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

If it is - correct MS that is what I meant to say.

― DJ Martian, Tuesday, 11 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

NO clue who's resp. for this ... I'm afraid some scapegoat's gonna get blamed with or without proof ... this jack-ass is gonna start a war over this, you watch

― Tadeusz Suchodolski, Tuesday, 11 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I work in Canary Wharf. It's a kind of unofficial evacuation. You can go home if you want to. So I'm going to.

― Sam, Tuesday, 11 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

The attacks are too well orchestrated for terrorists.

― doomie..., Tuesday, 11 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Plane near Camp David, not on it. Still!

― Dan Perry, Tuesday, 11 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

i'm absolutely not a fan of the bush administration but i'm confindent that they will not act rashly in terms of counterattacks. Nothing was ever done about the bombing of our aircraft carrier b/c we still don't know who's responsible. I think their main concern right now would be securing our cities. But not since the brits burned down the white house has there ever been this kind of attack on american soil.

― Samantha, Tuesday, 11 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I do not advocate starting a war. I advocate a systematic investigation to find out who is responsible. If the group responsible is uncovered, we should BOMB ALL HOLY FUCK OUT OF THEM.

― Dan Perry, Tuesday, 11 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

this is why NMD is futile

― ed, Tuesday, 11 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

My last coworker is accounted for, he finally showed. He's from Staten Island and goes thru WTC to get in every day, we had no clue what happened to him.

― Ally, Tuesday, 11 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Ally have you heard from fred?

― mark s, Tuesday, 11 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Taliban have called a news conference for 15 mins time. Hmmm....

― Pete, Tuesday, 11 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Fred is fine, he posted from his account. But he passed the news that Mike Daddino works at the WTC. :-( :-(

― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 11 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Taliban will be giving a press conference soon.

― DJ Martian, Tuesday, 11 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Tadeusz, my phone works I'm in NJ and about 4 miles from Hoboken where I live. If you need me to make a call for you, just say so.

― Lesley Higgins, Tuesday, 11 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Oh god.

― Richard Tunnicliffe, Tuesday, 11 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Fred is ok by all accounts. Only person unaccounted for is Mike Daddino who apparently works in WTC. Pray that he is ok.

― Billy Dods, Tuesday, 11 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Canada has just closed its airports. Meaning there are loads of aeroplanes in the air with nowhere to land.... Paranoia making things worse?

― Pete, Tuesday, 11 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

MSNBC just reported that NYC Police are evacuating a high school (Stuyvesant?) due to a bomb threat.

I'm just as fearful about the retaliation, if not more so.

― Andy, Tuesday, 11 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

At some point they'll have to at least let people land, but that's about it.

― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 11 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Ed, what about Linzi? is she in nyc with you?

― gareth, Tuesday, 11 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

how many floors on the world trade centre?, reports state that anything above the 67 level would have been killed by the impact of the plane, i.e anything above this would be trapped, and the bleak pictures of the second tower of the plane crashing into the tower.

from the floors downwards from the impact, how many managed to escape before the second tower collapsed? the delay was about 15-20 minutes?

― DJ Martian, Tuesday, 11 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

~110 floors I think.

― Graham, Tuesday, 11 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

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