even more quiddities and agonies of the ruling class - a new rolling new york times thread

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you get used to it. the only thing i really read religiously is the food section and i find comfort in their endless retreads of stuff like: ham! it's not just something you put on a sandwich anymore! it's fancy! beer! it's not just budweiser in a cup at a ballgame anymore. it's fancy! basically: that thing that everyone has eaten/drank forever is no longer just that thing you have eaten forever. it's a thing! a fancy thing!

scott seward, Thursday, 5 February 2015 20:22 (eleven years ago)

Walking! It's not just a thing you do between your limo and your office building!

walid foster dulles (man alive), Thursday, 5 February 2015 20:23 (eleven years ago)

i'm getting pretty good at the crossword puzzle i gotta say

the plight of y0landa (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 5 February 2015 20:26 (eleven years ago)

the humble and dreary and forgotten cauliflower? not so humble and dreary and forgotten anymore! no sireeeeee!

they also like to drive home the fact that what you've been eating forever is some sad thing that is terrible. no matter what they're talking about. and only now can you get the good stuff. which never seems true. but it's a gimmick that keeps on giving.

anyway, they do this all over the paper. it's a living.

scott seward, Thursday, 5 February 2015 20:26 (eleven years ago)

I always like to cite the ice cream example -- "Now producers are doing it with high-end ingredients and real, local dairy." Because that's been true for at least decades.

walid foster dulles (man alive), Thursday, 5 February 2015 20:28 (eleven years ago)

our local ice cream company makes the best goddamned vanilla ice cream you've ever tasted. just wanted to point that out if you are ever in town. you can get it at the supermarket. they add egg custard. makes all the damn difference in the world. that's my theory anyway. very old-fashioned taste.

http://bartshomemade.com/p/10/barts-flavors

scott seward, Thursday, 5 February 2015 20:38 (eleven years ago)

scott have you ever been to http://www.peacefulmeadows.com/

gr8080, Thursday, 5 February 2015 21:02 (eleven years ago)

no! i'm waiting to go with you!

i'm still getting used to things being called Creamies around here...

http://www.northfieldcreamie.com/_The_Creamie/Home.html

scott seward, Thursday, 5 February 2015 21:20 (eleven years ago)

wagon wheel ice cream is likewise off the hookin' chain. my pal carol-ann runs that place. we grew up together. anthony bourdain is a fan.

http://www.wagonwheelgill.com/

scott seward, Thursday, 5 February 2015 21:23 (eleven years ago)

woah

http://i.imgur.com/t0gwGld.jpg

gr8080, Thursday, 5 February 2015 21:25 (eleven years ago)

haha! best grub around. best place to eat outside too.

scott seward, Thursday, 5 February 2015 21:29 (eleven years ago)

I was just about to post that 2/5 link, ha

RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 8 February 2015 16:42 (eleven years ago)

SPANISH HIPSTER DOT COM

RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 8 February 2015 16:42 (eleven years ago)

http://gothamist.com/2015/02/07/brunch_hate_reads_the_tedium_of_rea.php

RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 8 February 2015 16:51 (eleven years ago)

"The sellers 'had perfect taste, parallel to our own,' Ms. Porter said."

All time fave

men without hat tips (Hunt3r), Sunday, 8 February 2015 17:19 (eleven years ago)

The Times actually claimed that was Ms. Porter joking (eye roll)

Iago Galdston, Sunday, 8 February 2015 17:25 (eleven years ago)

http://thebillfold.com/2013/05/i-made-570k-last-year-but-i-dont-feel-rich-in-fact-i-feel-worried

mookieproof, Tuesday, 10 February 2015 21:02 (eleven years ago)

He reads boring books.

Jeff, Tuesday, 10 February 2015 21:09 (eleven years ago)

paraphrase of key pieces of ^^ article:

Losing several hundred thousand dollars on unwise investing meant I had to live paycheck to paycheck at a time when I was only making 200,000 per annum. That scarred me. I don't feel secure. I worry about my investments, therefore I am not rich, because being rich means not having to worry about money.

Aimless, Tuesday, 10 February 2015 21:13 (eleven years ago)

mo money mo paranoia

the plight of y0landa (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 10 February 2015 21:13 (eleven years ago)

Maybe if you can loose "a couple hundred thousand dollars" in an investment and not end up homeless you don't really need to worry about money. This guy has a problem.

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 10 February 2015 21:18 (eleven years ago)

a problem known as money

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 10 February 2015 21:22 (eleven years ago)

lollll, i mean this is fish in a barrel but what an amazing series of ridiculous statements. dunno why but the $300-a-week personal chef is what really kills me.

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 10 February 2015 22:08 (eleven years ago)

i have no idea, that's probably a pretty good rate for a personal chef, but how you can square the idea that you spend fifteen grand a year on having someone cook for you with not feeling rich, but try to reassure yourself that you're not worried about keeping up with the joneses because of your lower-grade SUV....

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 10 February 2015 22:11 (eleven years ago)

third car (for two adults) is only an entry-level ($32K) lexus

mookieproof, Tuesday, 10 February 2015 22:14 (eleven years ago)

TBH, when i saw the 300 a week for the personal chef, I started trying to figure out how I can budget for that. Would be worth it.

Jeff, Tuesday, 10 February 2015 22:17 (eleven years ago)

5 $60 meals from mobile waiters uncle julio's perimeter

It's strange to me too. But we're talking about praxis, man. (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 10 February 2015 22:18 (eleven years ago)

If it included ingredients and it was three meals a day for the whole family, it'd almost be a good deal. I'm assuming that's not the case though.

walid foster dulles (man alive), Tuesday, 10 February 2015 22:18 (eleven years ago)

i would have died and gone to heaven if a hefty but regular mobile waiters bill came into play

It's strange to me too. But we're talking about praxis, man. (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 10 February 2015 22:18 (eleven years ago)

a casual aside explaining the butter sauce

It's strange to me too. But we're talking about praxis, man. (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 10 February 2015 22:20 (eleven years ago)

it does include the ingredients apparently which honestly - 5 meals for a family for $300 a week idk that seems pretty good. like in the context of upper middle class luxuries or w/e, it seems worth it to me.

in de rawk (Lamp), Tuesday, 10 February 2015 22:20 (eleven years ago)

So it's just 5 meals a week?

walid foster dulles (man alive), Tuesday, 10 February 2015 22:46 (eleven years ago)

Or you mean family of five

walid foster dulles (man alive), Tuesday, 10 February 2015 22:48 (eleven years ago)

I can't quite figure out where the guy's money is going. He says his mortgage is $700K -- that doesn't sound very big for a guy earning half a mil.

walid foster dulles (man alive), Tuesday, 10 February 2015 22:49 (eleven years ago)

think he said it was 3 dinners that they can regularly extend to 5 meals

It's strange to me too. But we're talking about praxis, man. (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 10 February 2015 22:49 (eleven years ago)

it is going into his overly cautious bank account, which he pairs with his overly risky investments

It's strange to me too. But we're talking about praxis, man. (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 10 February 2015 22:50 (eleven years ago)

it could go to you if you have a health based iphone app idea

It's strange to me too. But we're talking about praxis, man. (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 10 February 2015 22:51 (eleven years ago)

@man alive yeah he says that she makes 3 things that they consume over 5 dinners a week. it seemed like he has two kids but tbh im not going to bother reading it to double check. but $15 a person per meal while high isnt outrageous esp considering how much it would cost him to eat out even two nights a week instead. honestly with the exception of his mortgage none of his consumption patterns seem unreasonable mostly he just seems mentally ill.

in de rawk (Lamp), Tuesday, 10 February 2015 23:04 (eleven years ago)

Maybe he's blowing it all on expensive pity parties

walid foster dulles (man alive), Tuesday, 10 February 2015 23:07 (eleven years ago)

Renting an entire orchestra of tiny violinists playing very sad songs for him isn't cheap

walid foster dulles (man alive), Tuesday, 10 February 2015 23:07 (eleven years ago)

he learned that technique from reading Your Butcher is Actually Super Fucking Rich

It's strange to me too. But we're talking about praxis, man. (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 10 February 2015 23:12 (eleven years ago)

he says in the article that hes hoarding money in a low-interest chequing account instead of paying down debts or investing in stable, low-risk assets. and that hes ok with it because of his larger fears about macroeconomic uncertainty. idk it feels like his relationship w/ money and security is disordered in a way that isnt that illuminating or indicative of larger social issues. he even says people he knows with much lower incomes feel secure, comfortable, affluent &c

in de rawk (Lamp), Tuesday, 10 February 2015 23:12 (eleven years ago)

Like I said it seems like a reasonable price for a personal chef probably, but if 'personal chef' even appears as a line item in your budget or even hypothetical possible budget, you are well off, and talking to anybody about supposedly recent 'paycheck to paycheck' living is NAGL to an extent that it just conveys an incredible and hilarious lack of self awareness

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 11 February 2015 04:02 (eleven years ago)

like sorry if you have enough in savings to support your family for two years, stfu

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 11 February 2015 04:03 (eleven years ago)

One of the reasons I have a lot of liquid reserve is so that I can make investments. I’m doing my homework right now as another opportunity to make a private equity investment has presented itself.

i've got a bad feeling about this

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 11 February 2015 04:10 (eleven years ago)

what's fascinating about this guy is that he's clearly smart and clearly a fool at the same time. one rarely sees the two so vividly played off against each other.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 11 February 2015 04:11 (eleven years ago)

idk i see it all the time.

mattresslessness, Wednesday, 11 February 2015 04:19 (eleven years ago)

new board description

Mordy, Wednesday, 11 February 2015 04:20 (eleven years ago)

if 'personal chef' even appears as a line item in your budget or even hypothetical possible budget, you are well off

relieved we got here

men without hat tips (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 11 February 2015 04:20 (eleven years ago)

idk it feels like his relationship w/ money and security is disordered in a way that isnt that illuminating or indicative of larger social issues.

This is a good point actually. Usually the very rich people you hear about complaining about not being rich don't have that much money saved and do live in a ridiculous house that eats up all their money. This guy isn't really saying "I make $570K but I can't afford to send my kids to college," it's more like "I make $570K and I can afford to send my kids to college but somehow I stay up all night worrying that I can't."

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 11 February 2015 04:24 (eleven years ago)


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