I didnt find fresh ground to make much difference tbh but storing grinds airtight after opening def does imo
― local eire man (darraghmac), Saturday, 31 January 2015 13:55 (eleven years ago)
Yeah, I just buy bags and get them ground for french press. Good enough and one less thing I have to do in the morning. I can't really tell a difference between that and grinding them immediately before.
― Jeff, Saturday, 31 January 2015 14:11 (eleven years ago)
xp max I have the same routine! Do you have the skerton or the mini mill?
― Jennifer 8.-( (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 31 January 2015 14:18 (eleven years ago)
mini! skerton is more than i need
― max, Saturday, 31 January 2015 14:26 (eleven years ago)
Is that the skinny one that has the lid? If so how many "clicks" from all-the-way-tightened do you set it at for Aeropress grinding? Also do you fux w water temp or just boil it?
― Jennifer 8.-( (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 31 January 2015 14:28 (eleven years ago)
the grinder is regular, no lid or clicks. i boil and then usually wait 10 seconds or so, more so that the water doesnt jump out of the tea pot than to get it below boiling point
― max, Saturday, 31 January 2015 14:54 (eleven years ago)
Agree milo, moka pots are great IMO and are good enough for me. Easy to clean too and I like the routine of using them
― marcos, Saturday, 31 January 2015 17:38 (eleven years ago)
i do every fancy coffee thing and I LOVE IT
― lag∞n, Saturday, 31 January 2015 17:50 (eleven years ago)
coffee is good it gives u visions
that is my exact routine too, I have a mini
I have occasionally weighed things out, it adds like 20 secs to prep time idk
― gbx, Saturday, 31 January 2015 17:54 (eleven years ago)
i weigh weighing is tite
― lag∞n, Saturday, 31 January 2015 17:55 (eleven years ago)
fresh grind or die
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 31 January 2015 17:57 (eleven years ago)
i used to areopress but why is it so small need to make bigger one now i pour over, i own an insulated metal french press too, i own a moka pot, i have an electric burr grinder, i have a scale, i buy single origin beans
― lag∞n, Saturday, 31 January 2015 17:58 (eleven years ago)
electric kettle of course
― lag∞n, Saturday, 31 January 2015 18:00 (eleven years ago)
i mostly just fuck w espresso
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 31 January 2015 18:00 (eleven years ago)
lpulling espresso shots is like this cool sorta jenga puzzle, every step is kinda u&k
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 31 January 2015 18:04 (eleven years ago)
ya its tricky
― lag∞n, Saturday, 31 January 2015 18:04 (eleven years ago)
I think espresso is where all the micro choices you make really start to show, it's true for non-espresso and drip and aeropress that 'good enough' is great
― 龜, Saturday, 31 January 2015 18:20 (eleven years ago)
I got the gooseneck electric =]
No temp control but who cares
― 龜, Saturday, 31 January 2015 18:24 (eleven years ago)
haha veg it is like jenga or something! My bf got us a refurbished espresso machine (pavoni, a small one with only a few buttons) for Christmas and so far I'm the only one trying to master the art of it - I think I'm doing pretty well. Need a better grinder though, that's where I run into problems with the puzzle :/ Yet it still makes a more rewarding and delicious cup of coffee than the stovetop pot I used for years and thought I was okay with...
― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Saturday, 31 January 2015 18:37 (eleven years ago)
ya mismatched size grounds are espresso death m/l
― lag∞n, Saturday, 31 January 2015 18:42 (eleven years ago)
龜Posted: January 31, 2015 at 1:24:18 PMI got the gooseneck electric =]
is it good it looks so fn goofy man idk i will get it tho if it makes me more of a coffee man
― lag∞n, Saturday, 31 January 2015 18:43 (eleven years ago)
omg rrobyn i love that pavoni, so jelly
diff beans need slightly diff grinds even! it's really interesting w all the variables
i saw a vid from some coffee shop about tamping & it upped my game considerably
they said to spoon yr grounds into the portafilter & pat them down like yr making a sandcastle THEN level off with yr finger THEN use the tamper to fully squash them in
it made my shots way betterdont ask me why though lol
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 31 January 2015 18:51 (eleven years ago)
capresso burr grinder is not too $$$ & has lasted us for years of daily use i highly recommend
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 31 January 2015 18:56 (eleven years ago)
Oh I will check that out!
― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Saturday, 31 January 2015 19:02 (eleven years ago)
People are like oh you need to spend more on a grinder than on the espresso machine and I say wtf
― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Saturday, 31 January 2015 19:04 (eleven years ago)
I have a really cheap burr grinder that I got a couple of years ago but it doesn't grind fine enough for this machine. So I grind the coffee and then grind again in little blade grinder for a few seconds. Probably that makes me a coffee heathen. Mostly it's just annoying.
― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Saturday, 31 January 2015 19:06 (eleven years ago)
might hav to cast u out of the coffee thread
― lag∞n, Saturday, 31 January 2015 19:08 (eleven years ago)
Will try to atone. But I understand.
― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Saturday, 31 January 2015 19:18 (eleven years ago)
mods
― lag∞n, Saturday, 31 January 2015 19:20 (eleven years ago)
How will I ever learn
― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Saturday, 31 January 2015 19:22 (eleven years ago)
flagged u rrrobyn sry
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 31 January 2015 20:31 (eleven years ago)
I was just looking at how to mod a cheap burr grinder like the one I have - pretty easy! And possibly dangerous! Maybe that'll give me some cred here.
― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Saturday, 31 January 2015 20:48 (eleven years ago)
maaaaaybe
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 31 January 2015 21:14 (eleven years ago)
im tentatively willing to entertain this coffee mod
― lag∞n, Saturday, 31 January 2015 21:28 (eleven years ago)
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 31 January 2015 18:56 (3 hours ago) Permalink
Capresso Infinity is the gold standard of burr grinders of people who are not insane
― walid foster dulles (man alive), Saturday, 31 January 2015 22:34 (eleven years ago)
― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Saturday, January 31, 2015 1:37 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I've had a La Pavoni for about 8 years and I love it! It needs servicing though and I've been kind of putting it off because now that I have to get K to preschool every morning I don't have time for the full ritual anyway. It's a beautiful piece of machinery, difficult to tame, but once you do it can make amazing coffee.
A few other tips:
1) ONLY use the larger filter basket (IIRC it comes with two, one is sort of tapered on the bottom, hence smaller, and one is not). It's supposed to be a "double" but it really holds the ideal amount for a single shot, and double-pulling the same grinds is a ridiculous idea.
2) A couple things to keep in mind for the future, but that require shelling out more: a "bottomless" portafilter (no oil buildup = cleaner espresso and easier cleanup), and a tamper that actually is the same size as the pavoni portafilter (IIRC the one that comes with it is weirdly smaller).
3) The thing is a burn hazard, so be careful. The whole thing is metal that gets and stays super hot. Also any time the machine has been in use recently, only open the water chamber VERY slowly as there's a lot of pressure in there and it can shoot hot water all over your hand if you move too fast (you can also use the "steam wand" to empty out the pressure before you open)
4) You don't absolutely have to use an "espresso" roast, in fact if you like nu-coffee places a lot of them use something lighter for their espresso. You can really make espresso from any coffee, although at least a medium roast is better imo, because light roasts have so little oil that they don't produce much "crema."
5) For cleaning, I find that lightly wetted pieces of paper towel work best (for cleaning the inside ring of the head where the grinds get stuck).
There are also some great sites where people give you tips -- will try to find. Some of them are a little OTT crazy, but it's fun to try the different techniques and see what works for you. Give yourself some time and practice, and be a little obsessive about it. I have had people tell me that I made "the best coffee they've ever had.
I could give a lot more tips too but this probably already sounds absurd.
― walid foster dulles (man alive), Saturday, 31 January 2015 22:43 (eleven years ago)
gbx how many clicks do YOU use??
― Jennifer 8.-( (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 31 January 2015 22:43 (eleven years ago)
Oh and absolutely get the Capresso or similar, blade-chopped grinds will mean you don't get a nice tightly packed "disc" of grinds and you won't get proper pressure/extraction.
― walid foster dulles (man alive), Saturday, 31 January 2015 22:44 (eleven years ago)
what's ur fave btwn nescafe and Maxwell house
― local eire man (darraghmac), Saturday, 31 January 2015 22:58 (eleven years ago)
keep the crazy espresso tips comin this is good stuff
― lag∞n, Saturday, 31 January 2015 22:59 (eleven years ago)
http://imagecdn-0.findnsave.com/289/10039972-420
― about a dozen duck supporters (carl agatha), Saturday, 31 January 2015 22:59 (eleven years ago)
I will check it out.
I like to make a paste of the coffee and a lil milk and sugar first, smooth it all out adding milk til ive the right amount, then microwave that before adding the hot water, best coffee you'll ever taste #protip
― local eire man (darraghmac), Saturday, 31 January 2015 23:05 (eleven years ago)
good lord
― languagelessness (mattresslessness), Saturday, 31 January 2015 23:07 (eleven years ago)
― Jennifer 8.-( (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, January 31, 2015 4:43 PM (37 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
good q, no clue -- 3.5 thread roots visible on the adjustment screw
― gbx, Saturday, 31 January 2015 23:23 (eleven years ago)
I tighten it all the way and untighten it 10 clicks, rly hope I'm doing the right number of clicks
― Jennifer 8.-( (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 31 January 2015 23:25 (eleven years ago)
no charge matt happy caffeine ;)
― local eire man (darraghmac), Saturday, 31 January 2015 23:33 (eleven years ago)
all of the coffee i make is perfect so i'm not sweating it
― gbx, Saturday, 31 January 2015 23:41 (eleven years ago)
Thanks for la pavoni tips! I figured out a few of those on my own, like I just laughed at the tapered "single shot". And was just reading about bottomless porta filters! Seems like something to try. I don't like nu coffee because it kills my stomach but also I don't like how it tastes. We got a blend from the Faema store that refurbed the machine and it was good! But I have other coffee sources I'm going to experiment with.
Biggest issue right now is grinder and tamper. I was looking at the capresso abs or ss and the Gaggia mdf, hmm.
― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Saturday, 31 January 2015 23:41 (eleven years ago)
espresso tip - 30 pounds of pressure for legit tamping. get your shoulder squared over top & bear the fuck down. mr veg got me this little rubber pad that helps
oh and we have this stainless steel tray that goes under the grinder, it helps pull out any static - dark roast oily beans get crazy staticky & the tray stops the grounds flying all over the counter
not must-haves by any means, but are cool if yr so inclined
my favorite for espresso shots is def medium roast colombian, i got one from ritual roasters that was like GAME: CHANGED, my shots were like buttah lol
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 31 January 2015 23:44 (eleven years ago)