Not to get too speculative/cynical, but he could use this as his hiatus to parachute away from the dish, then return to blogging in the year to cover the elections for some other site that would probably pay much better. The hunger for election coverage is going to be huge, and I could see a few sites bringing him on as a renter the way NYtimes did Nate Silver
― Evan R, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:43 (nine years ago) link
lmao the dean hits on what's really important
https://twitter.com/rxgau/status/560554662815076352
― goole, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:48 (nine years ago) link
(yes that is from like 1min ago heh)
Checked in hourly during the last few months of the 2008 election. Not too often the past few years.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:49 (nine years ago) link
oh xgaupaws
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:52 (nine years ago) link
"he could crank it out ps eat shit"
― goole, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:56 (nine years ago) link
Great now I'm gonna be singing "Fuck any pipsqueak" to the tune of "Climb Ev'ry Mountain" for the rest of the day
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 22:39 (nine years ago) link
"What does Robert Christgau do in bed? You know, is he a pipsqueak-fucker?"
― salthigh, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 23:49 (nine years ago) link
Charles Pierce:
Andrew Sullivan has given up blogging again until he starts blogging again. (Too bad, I was hoping to be called a Fifth Columnist again, having been born too late for the Red Scare.) During the Chait-Coates dust-up, Sullivan chimed in with another defense of his tenure as editor, and another explanation of why the sourest bilge of scientific racism, spruced up by The New Republic for a new century, was worthy of debate. The fact is that TNR, which already was headed for Crazytown because it was owned by a bigot and a maniac, accelerated in that direction under his command. And it wasn't just The Bell Curve, either. It was Betsy McCaughey's tobacco-industry knob-gobbling hit-piece on Hillarycare. It was using Stephen Emerson, a crackpot so garish that even Fox News won't have him any more, to "debunk" the October Surprise story. It was he who was her editor when Shalit began to steal everything that wasn't nailed down from other publications. Her reward was to write a completely meretricious piece on affirmative action at The Washington Post. He also hired Stephen Glass, which turned out to be good for a laugh, anyway. (He seems to have been a little weak on the editing aspects of being an editor.) For those of us who watched what happened to that magazine, and who chafed under the entire notion that, on the big issues of the past 35 years, it had anything to say about progressive politics beyond the bacon-wrapped scallop liberalism of a very insular Beltway circle jerk, and who believed that political writing in this country could use a lot less TNR in its DNA, this has been a very good week.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 January 2015 15:19 (nine years ago) link
the bacon-wrapped scallop liberalism of a very insular Beltway circle jerk
ok this lily is way gilded - circle jerks are insular by definition, no? - yet "bacon-wrapped liberalism" deserves enshrinement
― in-house pickle program (m coleman), Friday, 30 January 2015 15:54 (nine years ago) link
jerks within jerks
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 January 2015 16:03 (nine years ago) link
depends on how big the circle is
― mookieproof, Friday, 30 January 2015 16:03 (nine years ago) link
you could all be facing out i guess
― goole, Friday, 30 January 2015 16:29 (nine years ago) link
take it the sex droughts thread, guys
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 January 2015 16:31 (nine years ago) link
http://pando.com/2015/01/28/andrew-sullivan-is-not-the-future-of-journalism/
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 30 January 2015 18:38 (nine years ago) link
Wow. Thanks, J.D. And I started reading the dear in 2001.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 January 2015 18:52 (nine years ago) link
Here's what this man was posting in March 2003: http://dish.andrewsullivan.com/2003/03/page/3/
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 January 2015 18:58 (nine years ago) link
ouch. this is painful, horrible reading.
at the very least, it's a good antidote to any lingering positive feelings i might have had about the guy.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 30 January 2015 19:41 (nine years ago) link
It’s really wonderful to watch apologists for inaction now have to watch as action defeats evil. They will change the subject; they will attack those who got this entire story right while they got it entirely wrong. But they will never reconsider. That would require the kind of open mind that Conason jettisoned years ago. The forces of evil are being dealt a terrible blow on the battle-field. But their chattering enablers are about to be politically annihilated.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 30 January 2015 19:42 (nine years ago) link
Last post on Friday.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 February 2015 17:37 (nine years ago) link
Hope he just does this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WINDtlPXmmE
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 4 February 2015 18:25 (nine years ago) link
RIP:
I’m known for changing my mind, when the facts change. But on this, I remain convinced that we were more than right to elect Obama twice. His even temperament, his endurance of so many slings and arrows, his integrity and his patriotism loom large at this moment, but will seem, in my view, even larger from the rear-view mirror. We will miss this man when he is gone; and I am deeply proud of having played some small part in framing the case for him, and in seeing it through.
Ah yes. One last time with feeling.
Meep meep, motherfuckers. Meep Meep.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 February 2015 18:40 (nine years ago) link
At least shaking his hand at Mass convinced me to stop going to church. Never been back.
― touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 5 February 2015 18:51 (nine years ago) link
I’m known for changing my mind, when the facts change
lol
― mookieproof, Thursday, 5 February 2015 19:37 (nine years ago) link
a Groucho Marxist
"those are my opinions. if you don't like them, I have others"
― touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 5 February 2015 19:44 (nine years ago) link
"those are my opinions. if you don't like them, I have others wait til you get a load of these...."
― men without hat tips (Hunt3r), Thursday, 5 February 2015 20:03 (nine years ago) link
Lots of retrospective posts and do-you-remember-whens today. From 2004:
Well, I could easily be wrong, but I have a feeling Cheney will crush Edwards tonight. The format is God’s gift to Daddy. They’ll both be seated at a table, immediately allowing Cheney to do his assured, paternal, man-of-the-world schtick that makes me roll on my back and ask to have my tummy scratched. (Yes, I do think that Cheney is way sexier than Edwards. Not that you asked or anything.)
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 7 February 2015 21:54 (nine years ago) link
what's the opposite of asking
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 7 February 2015 22:26 (nine years ago) link
Okay, that's just...ew. And Sullivan is one of my favorite hate reads, but I don't read it for Re-puke porn.
― SCOTTISH PEOPLE ONLY (I M Losted), Saturday, 7 February 2015 23:04 (nine years ago) link
https://sullydish.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/andrew-sullivan-i-was-wrong-cover2.png?w=244&h=391
― Brad C., Saturday, 7 February 2015 23:15 (nine years ago) link
So I miss this blog. Are there any other good general-discussion blog heavy on politics that I should be reading in its place? Seems like a very big readership to just send into the wind without a clear successor
― Evan R, Monday, 23 February 2015 20:10 (nine years ago) link
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner
― ancient texts, things that can't be pre-dated (President Keyes), Monday, 23 February 2015 20:28 (nine years ago) link
Not sure if that's a joke suggestion or not. I do read the Corner from time to time, because it's nice to read smart conservative opinions, but I'm looking for something a little less ideologically rigid (and borderline hateful)
― Evan R, Monday, 23 February 2015 20:31 (nine years ago) link
Larison often shrewd about GOP foreign policy pieties.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 February 2015 20:35 (nine years ago) link
u should read twitter
― brosario nawson (m bison), Tuesday, 24 February 2015 03:09 (nine years ago) link
chait stepping into the vacuum, it seems
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 24 February 2015 03:33 (nine years ago) link
i miss this blog too!
― marcos, Wednesday, 4 March 2015 18:31 (nine years ago) link
He must be giving an earful tonight to whoever's sitting next to him at the bar / on the beach.
― ... (Eazy), Saturday, 27 June 2015 03:24 (eight years ago) link
One-day return:
http://dish.andrewsullivan.com/2015/06/26/it-is-accomplished/
― clemenza, Saturday, 27 June 2015 16:50 (eight years ago) link
His 1989 article advancing "a (conservative) case for gay marriage" is worth a read:http://www.newrepublic.com/article/79054/here-comes-the-groom
― jaymc, Saturday, 27 June 2015 16:55 (eight years ago) link
I haven't been keeping up, so this was probably posted in the political thread:
https://newrepublic.com/article/138951/beyond-hope-barack-obama-legacy-age-trump
It's a roundtable on Obama, and Sullivan's part of it. Unsurprisingly, his is the most uncritical evaluation, so much so that he's ridiculed by the other participants more than once.
― clemenza, Saturday, 17 December 2016 15:00 (seven years ago) link
It’s easy to mock this reductionism, I know, but it reflects something a little deeper. Asian-Americans, like Jews, are indeed a problem for the “social-justice” brigade. I mean, how on earth have both ethnic groups done so well in such a profoundly racist society? How have bigoted white people allowed these minorities to do so well — even to the point of earning more, on average, than whites? Asian-Americans, for example, have been subject to some of the most brutal oppression, racial hatred, and open discrimination over the years. In the late 19th century, as most worked in hard labor, they were subject to lynchings and violence across the American West and laws that prohibited their employment. They were banned from immigrating to the U.S. in 1924. Japanese-American citizens were forced into internment camps during the Second World War, and subjected to hideous, racist propaganda after Pearl Harbor. Yet, today, Asian-Americans are among the most prosperous, well-educated, and successful ethnic groups in America. What gives? It couldn’t possibly be that they maintained solid two-parent family structures, had social networks that looked after one another, placed enormous emphasis on education and hard work, and thereby turned false, negative stereotypes into true, positive ones, could it? It couldn’t be that all whites are not racists or that the American dream still lives?
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 15 April 2017 21:56 (seven years ago) link
His primary question is worth asking. His coyly suggested (but simultaneously denied) answer, that "they maintained solid two-parent family structures, had social networks that looked after one another, placed enormous emphasis on education and hard work", is based on little more than stereotyping - which he (again, coyly) suggests are "true stereotypes" w/o offering any hint of evidence.
That is opinion writing at its laziest. Ask a worthwhile question, then give a worthless answer made up of anecdotes and intellectual sweepings.
― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Saturday, 15 April 2017 22:09 (seven years ago) link
As some folks on twitter have pointed out, Sullivan never read this article:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/04/14/asian-americans-used-to-be-portrayed-as-the-villains-how-did-they-become-a-model-minority/?utm_term=.e29c96639c44
― curmudgeon, Saturday, 15 April 2017 22:37 (seven years ago) link
Sullivan's take is lazy and not well-researched, compared to the Jeff Guo & Daron Taylor Washington Post article I posted..
― curmudgeon, Saturday, 15 April 2017 22:45 (seven years ago) link
Well, Sullivan seems forever locked in competition with Jonah Goldberg to see who can push out the laziest, least-researched copy, so.
― Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, Jr, and Violent J (誤訳侮辱), Saturday, 15 April 2017 22:47 (seven years ago) link
After commenting on this I went to the kitchen and as I started cooking supper the truly poisonous racist assumptions that are hiding in plain sight in that paragraph jumped out at me. wtf were you thinking, Andrew Sullivan?
― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Sunday, 16 April 2017 17:52 (seven years ago) link
His primary question is worth asking. His coyly suggested (but simultaneously denied) answer, that "they maintained solid two-parent family structures, had social networks that looked after one another, placed enormous emphasis on education and hard work", is based on little more than stereotyping - which he (again, coyly) suggests are "true stereotypes" w/o offering any hint of evidence. That is opinion writing at its laziest. Ask a worthwhile question, then give a worthless answer made up of anecdotes and intellectual sweepings.
Not worth asking
― 龜, Sunday, 16 April 2017 20:50 (seven years ago) link
i mean it's _worth asking_ (assuming you, for whatever reason, haven't given the idea serious thought before) why some minority groups are more well-off than others. though it's probably a more appropriate question for google.com than an op-ed
― k3vin k., Sunday, 16 April 2017 21:21 (seven years ago) link
I'm not sure what 'primary question' exactly is being talked about here, like
why have asian-americans been so successful in many way = question worth asking
does asian-american success prove that racism is actually nbd = question not worth asking
though I got the impression that Aimless was talking about the former?
― soref, Sunday, 16 April 2017 21:32 (seven years ago) link