POLL RESULTS: Top 100 Films of the 1980s

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Do the Right Thing (277 points, 11 votes, 3 first-place votes)

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It's hard to remember now how incendiary this felt at the time. Spike Lee's liveliest, most colorful, most electric movie. It simmers on screen. And Danny Aiello confounds any attempt (including Spike's) to unmuddy the waters. Plus, of course, it has "Fight the Power."

-- gypsy mothra

his tremendous skills and his glaring weakness are generally all tied up in the same knot i think — he is good at really unexpected things which he then completely distracts you from by some shouty bit of business (that said, rosie perez shouting in do the right thing is just some of the funniest, sexiest acting in cinema)

-- mark s

i watched do the right thing about six months ago because nancy had never seen it and i must say it holds up remarkably better than i expected it to from the last time i saw it as a freshman film student.

-- mohammed abba

Spike vs. Spielberg is a tough call for me, Lee's such a sloppy filmmaker. He's almost the antithesis of Spielberg - the pedantry without the style. He really only has one great, perfect film and that's "Do the Right Thing". There's good stuff scattered in his other movies (I haven't seen 25th Hour) but by and large its one trainwreck after another... Girl 6, Get on the Bus, Bamboozled, Summer of Sam, etc. Has there ever been a Spike Lee movie that *doesn't* end with someone getting murdered...?

-- Shakey Mo Collier

just this past Sunday I was randomly flipping channels, and I found Do The Right Thing somewhere, about a third of the way into it. I decided to watch because I hadn't seen the thing in ... heck, maybe a decade. It totally made me weep. I'm not really even sure why. I didn't cry when I first saw it as a 17 year old in 1989, even though I knew it was of the most intense things I'd ever witnessed. I'm not prone to crying at all. I guess I never joined in on those crying threads that were active recently, but honestly I can count the number of times I've cried in my adult life on one hand.

-- Mr. Diamond

Girolamo Savonarola, Tuesday, 2 August 2005 21:36 (eighteen years ago) link

#1

Blue Velvet (409 points, 15 votes, 4 first-place votes)

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It's an obvious choice, but it's obvious for a reason. Blue Velvet (made by a Reagan fan, don't forget) is all the bullshit of '80s Americana, not just exposed (that's easy) but celebrated. Wallowed in. Lynch wants it both ways, the robins AND the beetles, Laura Dern's simpering blondie by day AND Isabella's fuck-me-hit-me brunette by night. And it lets its hero have both. It is a stupendously fucked-up movie, hypocritical and callow, like a Disneyland S&M weekend tour package. And like America, its hypocrisy is what makes it work. It's what makes it honest. I like to imagine Frank Capra emerging from a screening of Blue Velvet, horrified and blinking into the Hollywood sun, and Lynch hollering in his ear, "It's great, isn't it? Just like one of yours!" (Also, on a technical level, the colors and sound and blah blah blah, Lynch is a genius but you already knew that.)

-- gypsy mothra

This film is all about one man. Frank. Indeed, what Hopper and Lynch achieve with this film is something rather spectacular. It is this: To bring to the screen the most utterly fucked up, distressingly disturbed, genuinely terrifying plane-crash of a mash-up man. Frank is unlike any screen character I can think of in that he operates beyond the more recognisable parameters and conventions of fucked up. For a start he’s alarmingly unpredictable, veering dangerously between pussy-cat mewling to screaming psychotic rage in the space of a few seconds. He’s loaded up with more weird idiosyncrasies than a troupe of necrophiliacs, and he’s not afraid of a spot of sudden sickening violence, which he administers with charismatic, almost charming, surreal enthusiasm. He’s an out of control missile, a cataclysm, and every time he lopes onto the screen you actually fear for what he might do. Hopper’s Frank is a fascinating view into the surely tortured imagination of his authors. And though he might be one of cinema’s greatest time-bombs, he is never less than convincing.

-- Five Eight

Girolamo Savonarola, Tuesday, 2 August 2005 21:39 (eighteen years ago) link

who is this five eight character?

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 21:41 (eighteen years ago) link

An unexpectedly long haul, but it's done. I wish I could do the 70's poll (at least to redeem myself a little), but looks like it's already too far gone to do much about.

"Girolamo Savonarola will return for the 60's poll."

(xpost) No idea - that's how the email identified him.

Girolamo Savonarola, Tuesday, 2 August 2005 21:44 (eighteen years ago) link

Blue Velvet was the first movie that made me want to make movies. Do the Right Thing was the second.

Pete Scholtes, Tuesday, 2 August 2005 22:21 (eighteen years ago) link

Mac and Me was the third.

Pete Scholtes, Tuesday, 2 August 2005 22:22 (eighteen years ago) link

I've never seen Mac and Me. I could never imagine that it would be good. I'll rememdy that.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 22:29 (eighteen years ago) link

Hey Girolamo it was fun, thanks. I already miss it.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 05:30 (eighteen years ago) link

This isn't really the most frustrating thread ever. I was just anxious.

billstevejim (billstevejim), Friday, 5 August 2005 04:21 (eighteen years ago) link

(made by a Reagan fan, don't forget)
Never realized that. Surprisingly, it doesn't change how I view any of his films.

milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Friday, 5 August 2005 04:28 (eighteen years ago) link

98 Pretty In Pink
98 The Hidden
98 28 Up
97 Mystery Train
96 Beetlejuice
95 Predator
94 Cinema Paradiso
91 Fletch
91 Indiana Jones And The Temple Of Doom
91 Big
88 Women On The Verge Of A Nervous Breakdown
88 My Life As A Dog
88 Real Genius
87 Manhunter
85 Diva
85 Zelig
82 To Live And Die In L.A.
82 Prince Of The City
82 Excalibur
81 Gregory's Girl
79 A Chinese Ghost Story
79 When Harry Met Sally
78 Labyrinth
77 Poltergeist
76 Amadeus
74 An American Werewolf In London
74 Monty Python's The Meaning Of Life
73 Sherman's March
72 The Terminator
71 A Christmas Story
69 Sans Soleil
69 A Fish Called Wanda
68 The Fly
67 Kiki's Delivery Service
65 Diner
65 Caddyshack
64 Berlin Alexanderplatz
62 The Thing
62 Dead Ringers
61 Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure
60 Matewan
59 Sex Lies & Videotape
58 Videodrome
56 The Decalogue
56 Gremlins
55 Sixteen Candles
53 The Shining
53 Crimes And Misdemeanors
52 Die Hard
51 The Last Temptation Of Christ
49 Planes Trans & Automobiles
49 The Road Warrior
46 Down By Law
46 My Neighbor Totoro
46 Dangerous Liasons
45 Paris, Texas
44 Fitzcarraldo
42 Koyaanisqatsi
42 The Blues Brothers
41 Indiana Jones & The Last Crusade
40 The Killer
38 The Right Stuff
38 Ferris Bueller's Day Off
37 Stranger Than Paradise
36 The Breakfast Club
35 Akira
34 Stop Making Sense
33 Blood Simple
31 Say Anything
31 Pee-Wee's Big Adventure
30 Drugstore Cowboy
29 Robocop
28 Hannah And Her Sisters
27 Tampopo
26 Heathers
25 Raising Arizona
24 The Princess Bride
22 Wings Of Desire
22 Evil Dead II
21 Ran
20 After Hours
19 Scarface
18 Aliens
17 Fast Times At Ridgemont High
16 Brazil
15 Raging Bull
14 Back To The Future
13 Full Metal Jacket
12 Ghostbusters
11 E.T.
10 Withnail And I
09 Airplane!
08 Repo Man
07 The King Of Comedy
06 This Is Spinal Tap
05 The Empire Strikes Back
04 Blade Runner
03 Raiders Of The Lost Ark
02 Do The Right Thing
01 Blue Velvet

billstevejim (billstevejim), Friday, 5 August 2005 04:30 (eighteen years ago) link

I was never going to be satisfied with this after "79 A Chinese Ghost Story", and Ran finishing outside of the top 20 confirmed my disappointment. I only really like less than half of the eventual top 20.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 5 August 2005 10:45 (eighteen years ago) link

#2
Mac and Me

Hahaha, that joke justifies the thread.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 8 August 2005 13:39 (eighteen years ago) link

one year passes...
Rereading this thread hurt my feelings.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 19 January 2007 21:59 (seventeen years ago) link

And, I admit, I brought it on myself.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 19 January 2007 22:12 (seventeen years ago) link

not entirely.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 19 January 2007 22:17 (seventeen years ago) link

blount is like a snapping turtle!

TOMBO7 (TOMBOT), Friday, 19 January 2007 22:28 (seventeen years ago) link

He's like a lot of things way less evolved.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 19 January 2007 22:36 (seventeen years ago) link

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000002KJ1.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

TOMBO7 (TOMBOT), Friday, 19 January 2007 22:39 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm just saying, when I was a jackass on the '90s threads, I should've learned something from the experience.

I can see how it might have seem as though I was attacking Dee when the controversy all started.

Since I've bumped this thread, here's as good as any to talk about the AFI 100 Years ... 100 Movies list redux.

http://connect.afi.com/site/DocServer/Movies_ballot_06.pdf?docID=141

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 19 January 2007 22:41 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm just saying, when I was a jackass on the '90s threads, I should've learned something from the experience.

Which is to say, I was exactly what blount said I was: a troll.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 19 January 2007 22:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Eric, you'll really sleep better if you ignore the AFI list stuff; it's a lost cause, like trying to convince people that Nolan Ryan WASN'T one of the 5 (or even 20) greatest pitchers ever.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 20 January 2007 21:17 (seventeen years ago) link

I wish I'd picked fights on this thread.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Saturday, 20 January 2007 22:36 (seventeen years ago) link

I wish I picked scabs.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Sunday, 21 January 2007 02:09 (seventeen years ago) link

that mac and me joke = worth the price of admission

feed latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 21 January 2007 02:54 (seventeen years ago) link

This thread is like spotting an interesting-looking photo album on the shelf, cracking it open, and finding extremely horrible pictures of yourself from when you were very definitely not looking even remotely at your best, and slamming it closed in disgust, not even bothering to look at the rest of the contents. In other words, I wish someone could hand me a shovel so I could dig a deep hole in the back yard and bury this ugly beast. (Eric H, I'm sorry.)

Phoenix Dancing (krushsister), Sunday, 21 January 2007 02:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Seconded, except for that I feel like I should come back and read this thread every time I feel like getting it on, so I can remember it's also fine to simply walk away.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Sunday, 21 January 2007 07:57 (seventeen years ago) link

How is a thread ever enough to quell your sex drive?

You people are not the same kind of people as I.

Charlie Brown (kenan), Sunday, 21 January 2007 08:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Haha, my "defending my right to like The Goonies and read Ramona Quimby books" spiel up there is like the emo-est thing I've ever written anywhere. I hope I was drunk.

ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 21 January 2007 11:16 (seventeen years ago) link

here's the movies in the new afi poll from 1997 onwards (and I gave up on fixing their spacing):
1 4 AMERICAN BEAUTY
21 AS GOOD AS IT GETS
23 AUSTIN POWERS : INTERNATIONAL MAN OF MYSTERY
2 4 T H E AVI AT O R
3 3 A B E A U T I F U L M I N D
3 5 B E I N G J O H N M A L K O V I C H
5 0 B O O G I E N I G H T S
6 1 BROKEBACK MOUNTA I N
7 4 CHICAGO
8 6 C R A S H
1 1 2 E R I N B R O C K O V I C H
1 1 3 E T E R N A L S U N S H I N E O F T H E S P O T L E S S M I N D
1 2 2 F I G H T C L U B
1 2 3 F I N D I N G N E M O
1 4 4 G L A D I AT O R
1 5 2 GOOD NIGHT, A N D G O O D L U C K .
1 5 3 G O O D W I L L H U N T I N G
1 6 9 HARRY P O T T E R A N D T H E P R I S O N E R O F A Z K A B A N
1 7 4 H O T E L R WA N D A
1 7 5 T H E H O U R S
1 8 0 T H E I N S I D E R
1 9 7 L . A . C O N F I D E N T I A L
70 American Film Institute
2 0 9 T H E L O R D O F T H E R I N G S : T H E F E L L O W S H I P O F T H E R I N G
2 1 0 T H E L O R D O F T H E R I N G S : T H E T W O T O W E R S
2 1 1 T H E L O R D O F T H E R I N G S : T H E R E T U R N O F T H E K I N G
2 1 3 L O S T I N T R A N S L AT I O N
2 2 5 T H E M AT R I X
2 2 9 MEMENTO
2 3 2 M I L L I O N D O L L A R B A B Y
2 3 7 M O U L I N R O U G E
2 4 5 M Y S T I C R I V E R
2 7 1 P I R AT E S O F T H E C A R I B B E A N : T H E C U R S E O F T H E B L A C K P E A R L
2 8 9 RAY
2 9 5 R E Q U I E M F O R A D R E A M
3 0 4 R U S H M O R E
3 0 7 S AV I N G P R I VAT E RYA N
3 1 6 S H A K E S P E A R E I N L O V E
3 2 2 S H R E K
3 2 3 S I D E WAY S
3 2 6 T H E S I X T H S E N S E
3 3 6 S P I D E R - M A N 2
3 5 8 T H E R E ’ S S O M E T H I N G A B O U T M A RY
3 6 4 T H R E E K I N G S
3 6 5 T I TA N I C
3 7 3 T R A F F I C

Thank god critics can now vote for Ray and Shrek!

a.b. (alanbanana), Sunday, 21 January 2007 12:49 (seventeen years ago) link

and they still consider carol reed and david lean films american, i see

a.b. (alanbanana), Sunday, 21 January 2007 12:52 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...

David Bordwell celebrates '80s cinema:

http://www.davidbordwell.net/blog/?p=3036

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 18:00 (fifteen years ago) link

Quite a bit of overlap between ILX100 and Bordwell.

Eric H., Tuesday, 9 December 2008 18:02 (fifteen years ago) link

three years pass...

I think Andrew Sarris's (RIP) list is a decent one

01. Berlin Alexanderplatz (Rainer Werner Fassbinder)
02. Boyfriends and Girlfriends (Eric Rohmer)
03. The Singing Detective (Jon Amiel)
04. After the Rehearsal (Ingmar Bergman)
05. A Nos Amours (Maurice Pialat)
06. Therese (Alain Cavalier)
07. L'Argent (Robert Bresson)
08. Empire of the Sun (Steven Spielberg)
09. Housekeeping (Bill Forsyth)
10. Full Metal Jacket (Stanley Kubrick)

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 18:11 (eleven years ago) link

seven years pass...

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