2008 Primaries Thread 2: THE QUICKENING

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Hey, for one sentence Ferraro in her shitbrick hit gold:

"Anyone that has worked in the Congress knows that for over 200 years this country has had partisanship - that's the way our country is."

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 14:33 (eighteen years ago)

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/03/10/large_310.jpg

elmo argonaut, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 15:06 (eighteen years ago)

Clinton campaigner in WSJ - damn that Barack Obama and those meddling kids:

Supporters of Sen. Clinton also worry about young voters, male and female, who have turned out in large numbers for Sen. Obama. "Young students for Obama could stay home; that's one reason I am so furious at them," says Fran Reiter, former deputy mayor of New York and a Clinton supporter. "They are all excited about him, and they don't have any staying power. If Obama doesn't get the nomination, do they get angry again and crawl back into their apathetic hole?"

I am shocked, shocked...

suzy, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 16:20 (eighteen years ago)

haha

jhøshea, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 16:20 (eighteen years ago)

I COUKLD JUST WRING THEIR APATHETIC LITTLE NECKS FOR BEING SO...INTERESTED.

suzy, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 16:24 (eighteen years ago)

That Obama Memo: IT'S ABOUT TIME. I hope it's the start of a trend for Obama.

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 11 March 2008 16:29 (eighteen years ago)

The Clinton campaign has responded to the memo, trying to characterize it as a "false attack":

http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2008/03/sweet_clinton_calls_obamas_gre.html

elmo argonaut, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 16:34 (eighteen years ago)

The Obama campaign spends considerable time trying to "prove" that a private conversation between Hillary and President Clinton never happened.

I kind of agree with this, actually. That was the weakest part of the memo.

jaymc, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 16:36 (eighteen years ago)

im not really sure why everyone is being all omg when will an obama atak - hes been good at refuting bullshit all along and when hillary took it to the next level he used his well-earned wiggle room to wait til after texas/ohio see if he even needed to make the party damaging move of hitting hillary where it hurts - since then hes been ramping up the push back

im pretty much through criticizing his campaign on tactical/strategic stuff - cause you know so far its been run insanely ingeniously

jhøshea, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 16:39 (eighteen years ago)

That Hillary memo was snoresville

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 16:40 (eighteen years ago)

Weirdly tautological and seemed to have been written in about two minutes.

suzy, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 16:42 (eighteen years ago)

any time you can mention Sinbad it's a plus, though

dmr, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 16:43 (eighteen years ago)

I kind of agree with this, actually. That was the weakest part of the memo.

You're right, but the way HRC describes her involvement makes it very hard to refute it any other way. Obama does say that "it's notable" that neither HRC nor Bill Clinton mentioned this private conversation in either of their memoirs. That's some evidence, I think, although admittedly weak evidence. But again, given the nature of HRC's claim, what else could Obama say?

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 11 March 2008 16:48 (eighteen years ago)

sinbad zing is a+

deej, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 16:52 (eighteen years ago)

white people engage in diplomacy like this...

elmo argonaut, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 16:53 (eighteen years ago)

yeah Sinbad made me lol

Curt1s Stephens, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 16:56 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.blackcomedycompetition.com/images/Sinbad.jpg

dmr, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 16:56 (eighteen years ago)

i didnt see this posted ... was it?
http://media.gallup.com/poll/graphs/031008DailyUpdateGraph1.gif

deej, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 16:57 (eighteen years ago)

I REALLY REALLY hope there is a pic out there of sinband + HRC

deej, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 16:57 (eighteen years ago)

http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/03/sinbad-speaks.php

deej, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 16:58 (eighteen years ago)

CLINTON-SINBAD '08

elmo argonaut, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 16:58 (eighteen years ago)

on the left

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/5196J30ERPL.jpg

xxpost

Curt1s Stephens, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 16:58 (eighteen years ago)

Benson!

Believe it or not, the woman on the far right is supposedly a Hillary impersonator:

http://www.hillarylookalike.com/photos/Sinbad_TeresaBarnwell_527x434.jpg

Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 17:01 (eighteen years ago)

I could see that

Curt1s Stephens, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 17:02 (eighteen years ago)

You're right, but the way HRC describes her involvement makes it very hard to refute it any other way.

No, I know. I meant it was the weakest part of the Obama memo for this very reason.

jaymc, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 17:02 (eighteen years ago)

she can tell people she told bill anything during his term that he did wrong was a bad idea and no one can refute it. HOW CONVENIENT

deej, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 17:04 (eighteen years ago)

http://bp0.blogger.com/_xkAiN-y_dL8/R3wnF8tHSSI/AAAAAAAAAgs/QIgAYfHaqn8/s400/AP96032502243.jpg

jhøshea, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 17:04 (eighteen years ago)

its the hardcore serious hrc diplomacy corps!

jhøshea, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 17:04 (eighteen years ago)

jingle all the way

deej, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 17:08 (eighteen years ago)

sinbad looks weird there

jhøshea, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 17:08 (eighteen years ago)

I don't think that's Sinbad.

Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 17:12 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.bavf.org/images/flagweek_2000/togo_west_and_larry_babbitts.jpg

Sec. of Veterans' Affairs, Togo West.

Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 17:14 (eighteen years ago)

Or as he's known to his friends, "Walter Oakes".

Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 17:15 (eighteen years ago)

Sinbad speaks

This is brutal: The comic Sinbad mocks Hillary's claims that their trip to Bosnia together was dangerous.

"I think the only 'red-phone' moment was: 'Do we eat here or at the next place.'"

(via a gleeful Obama campaign)

(via ben smith at politico)

Mark Clemente, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 17:40 (eighteen years ago)

oh no, Sinbad's gonna start being ACTUALLY funny? This is a new paradigm.

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 17:43 (eighteen years ago)

More from Sinbad:

In her Iowa stump speech, Clinton also said, "We used to say in the White House that if a place is too dangerous, too small or too poor, send the First Lady."

Say what? As Sinbad put it: "What kind of president would say, 'Hey, man, I can't go 'cause I might get shot so I'm going to send my wife...oh, and take a guitar player and a comedian with you.'"

jaymc, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 17:46 (eighteen years ago)

Most Democrats have not been heard from at the polls. We have all been impressed by the turnout for this year’s primaries — clearly both candidates have excited and engaged the party’s membership — but, even so, turnout for primaries and caucuses is notoriously low. It would be shocking if 30 percent of registered Democrats have participated.

Is it me or is this not a bald-faced lie...? I believe its noted somewhere upthread that voting in the primaries in several states has EXCEEDED the number of Dem votes cast in the previous election.

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 17:48 (eighteen years ago)

Sinbad lolz

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 17:50 (eighteen years ago)

turnout for primaries and caucuses is notoriously low.

So... "I think people of Ohio very clearly said it should be me." (top of the ticket) is BS too, since only 30% have participated, right?

StanM, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 17:58 (eighteen years ago)

This is too easy, Clinton campaign. Please try to find arguments that can't possibly be used against you for once.

StanM, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 17:59 (eighteen years ago)

Supporters of Sen. Clinton also worry about young voters, male and female, who have turned out in large numbers for Sen. Obama. "Young students for Obama could stay home; that's one reason I am so furious at them," says Fran Reiter, former deputy mayor of New York and a Clinton supporter. "They are all excited about him, and they don't have any staying power. If Obama doesn't get the nomination, do they get angry again and crawl back into their apathetic hole?"

This is so ass-backwards. The sense of entitlement among HRC and her supporters regardless of the effect on the party annoys the hell out of me.

Michael White, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 18:03 (eighteen years ago)

basically they're saying too few democrats have voted. but the ones who like obama: too many.

dmr, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 18:05 (eighteen years ago)

Maybe HRC supporters are stingy and want to use their "president clinton" merchandise again. (or they've all still got their "president clinton" tattoos)

StanM, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 18:05 (eighteen years ago)

Is she going to pick Tipper Gore as her running-mate?

Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 18:11 (eighteen years ago)

Silda Spitzer.

Nicole, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 18:13 (eighteen years ago)

The wronged spouse ticket '08!

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 18:21 (eighteen years ago)

from Politico:

Nancy Pelosi tells Boston TV that a Clinton-Obama or Obama-Clinton ticket is "impossible."

"I think that the Clinton administration has fairly ruled that out by proclaiming that Senator McCain would be a better Commander in Chief than Obama. I think that either way is impossible," she said.

Also: "Nothing ever resolves itself -- it has to be resolved by some outside forces," she said.

Simon H., Tuesday, 11 March 2008 18:29 (eighteen years ago)

Also: "Nothing ever resolves itself -- it has to be resolved by some outside forces," she said.

Yoda: "Wise and formidable, she is."

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 11 March 2008 18:31 (eighteen years ago)

xxpost: Campaign song: Caught Out There (Kelis)

StanM, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 18:32 (eighteen years ago)

pelosi abt to drop hammer on clinton campaign?

jhøshea, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 18:36 (eighteen years ago)


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