A Nigeria Thread (Non-Music Division)

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The situation in the north can seem so hopeless. Will the February elections make a difference?

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 13 January 2015 14:33 (nine years ago) link

I don't see how it could help.

Mordy, Tuesday, 13 January 2015 14:52 (nine years ago) link

Couldn't a new president help improve the military, the government bureaucracy, and work with other nations better to make life in the north better for the citizens(controlling or defeating extremists and making life better for others so they won't wanna join the extremists). Naive dreams?

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 13 January 2015 15:28 (nine years ago) link

Maybe if we all started wearing t-shirts that said "I Am Nigeria"?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 13 January 2015 15:31 (nine years ago) link

Nigerians in the diaspora are already tweeting stuff like that!

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 13 January 2015 17:33 (nine years ago) link

First thing to do is to get shot of this clown, Goodluck Johnson.

Peas Be Upon Ham (Tom D.), Tuesday, 13 January 2015 17:36 (nine years ago) link

http://touchvision.com/video/96698

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 13 January 2015 17:40 (nine years ago) link

The PDP is by far the most powerful political party in Nigeria and has won every election in the country (handily but by no means uncontroversially) since sustained civilian government became a reality 16 years ago. This may change in the future if the newly formed APC continues to gain traction, but it almost definitely won't during next months election. In that sense thinking of Goodluck as the problem isn't really helpful, especially if we're not giving due consideration to what the most likely alternative would be.

The government's silence on the Baga situation is odd and inexcusable but not entirely surprising. Goodluck's unfailing tactlessness as a leader and public figure aside, the level of intrigue surrounding Boko Haram and power brokers in the north is crazy and looming elections only serve to exacerbate that. The silence is certainly calculated but trying to parse what the logic behind it might be is futile and depressing.

The military was quite purposefully hobbled both in terms of manpower, funding and bureaucratic infrastructure, retaining usefulness in the fulfilment of foreign mandates but severely limited in its capacity to act meaningfully within the country. Of course in the wake of a deadly civil war and the coups and counter-coups that brought about numerous military dictators this made absolute sense. Now of course things are different, the army isn't equipped to deal with Boko Haram and Washington is blocking attempts by the Nigerian government to purchase arms on human rights grounds.

As for cooperation with other nations...
http://www.punchng.com/news/chad-niger-pulled-out-soldiers-from-baga-cds/

Sadly, things will most probably get worse beyond the election, which is likely to see unprecedented levels of violence. Plummeting oil prices has put tanked the economy with the added insult of Nigerians not experiencing the benefit of reduced prices. The Naira is in a hole and public sector workers aren't being paid, so yeah I guess naive dreams is about right.

tsrobodo, Wednesday, 14 January 2015 04:23 (nine years ago) link

it should probably be mentioned that chad soldiers have been pretty controversial as well

Mordy, Wednesday, 14 January 2015 14:36 (nine years ago) link

Was reading about refugee issues across the borders in the North. Folks are fleeing

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 14 January 2015 15:31 (nine years ago) link

The idea of Goodluck Jonathan not wanting to talk about Boko Haram for reasons of political expediency is sickening.

Treeship, Friday, 16 January 2015 12:42 (nine years ago) link

unless you are considering them (very) recent converts to Islam?

Forced conversions, of course.

That image reminded me of Ceddo, Ousmane Sembene's 1977 drama about the forced Islamisation in the 17th century Sahel of his native Senegal. It's on YouTube with French or English subtitles.

could at least have the decency to groove (Sanpaku), Friday, 16 January 2015 15:26 (nine years ago) link

bh now in cameroon

Mordy, Sunday, 18 January 2015 18:06 (nine years ago) link

interesting -- didn't chad mostly intervene on the side of Séléka in CAR? not that they couldn't be okay w/ one form of nationalist islam and be disgusting by haram (and who wouldn't be tbh)

Mordy, Sunday, 18 January 2015 23:26 (nine years ago) link

Don't know.

A Nigerian general from the 1980s is back:

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/24/world/africa/muhammadu-buhari-nigeria-election.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=first-column-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

After ruling Nigeria with an iron hand 30 years ago as the country’s military leader, Mr. Buhari is now a serious threat at the ballot box, analysts say, in large part because of Boko Haram’s blood-soaked successes.

curmudgeon, Friday, 23 January 2015 21:29 (nine years ago) link

http://pando.com/2015/01/28/the-war-nerd-boko-haram-and-the-demon-consensus/

Mordy, Thursday, 29 January 2015 04:05 (nine years ago) link

I was hoping ilx would get all fired up about this super provocative piece but I just realized that like only 4 of us actually read this thread so it's unlikely most of ilx is going to even see it.

Mordy, Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:51 (nine years ago) link

I liked it fwiw, his points abt the "Left" are mostly on target although imo a bit reductive in terms of seeing 'the Left" as some monolithic entity

love his slam on colonial Britain as well

brain floss mix (sleeve), Thursday, 29 January 2015 16:57 (nine years ago) link

basically an article that needed to be written, hope it gets read more widely than it probably will.

brain floss mix (sleeve), Thursday, 29 January 2015 16:58 (nine years ago) link

I have missed this left-wing Boko Haram apologism. Does it exist?

Vasco da Gama, Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:03 (nine years ago) link

did he mention left-wing apologism for boko haram or just the left-wing cynical exploitation of boko haram to deflect attention from charlie hebdo but otherwise total ignorance?

Mordy, Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:13 (nine years ago) link

At the end he approvingly quotes Mark Ames saying that the left views Boko Haram style jihadis as an anti-imperialist hence progressive force.

People who wanted to divert attention from CH to Nigeria probably wanted to say something like “the West doesn’t really care about Islamic terrorism, it only cares when it hurts white people, or when there is political currency to be gained by appearing to care”.

Vasco da Gama, Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:53 (nine years ago) link

well i mean i agree w/ mark ames analysis of the post-colonial left (aka any enemy of the west is a friend of mine) but i think he's more speculating about why the left doesn't care so much about boko haram (or seleka, or houthi, or a few years ago janjaweed in darfur, etc) under normal circumstances, but not suggesting that there's a cottage industry of boko haram apologia which would be too crass for everyone.

Mordy, Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:57 (nine years ago) link

for one thing, you have to know something about these countries before you can even start on the apologia. easier to just ignore it.

Mordy, Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:58 (nine years ago) link

People who wanted to divert attention from CH to Nigeria probably wanted to say something like “the West doesn’t really care about Islamic terrorism, it only cares when it hurts white people, or when there is political currency to be gained by appearing to care”.

I did see this

curmudgeon, Friday, 30 January 2015 15:48 (nine years ago) link

That guy paints with too broad a stroke re "the Left", "Sahel/Muslim" etc and of course only takes on certain "cool bloggers" (meaning Greenwald, et. al)while ignoring governments and "the right" and right-wing bloggers. Acknowledging enduring aspects of colonialism is propably too cliched left for this guy (some of his writing I just skimmed so I could b ewrong). Thus, it seems like he is just more interesting in some "gotcha" points against certain lefty bloggers, than in trying to get people to really care about Africans in the affected areas.

curmudgeon, Friday, 30 January 2015 16:00 (nine years ago) link

well to be fair he makes it clear that he has been trying to get ppl to care about that for years now, and this column was mostly venting about the way the issue has recently come up

brain floss mix (sleeve), Friday, 30 January 2015 16:03 (nine years ago) link

i think he legitimately cares, but yeah his shtick is a kind of matt taibbi style outrage for the geopolitical set- he's not a particularly sensitive writer. (but also i don't think he feels the need to condemn the right-wing since Pando/Exile is nominally left wing - so they're swinging at ppl in their group)

Mordy, Friday, 30 January 2015 16:04 (nine years ago) link

mordy you do a good job being "provocative" by posting the most asinine "thinkpieces" on political issues, even ones you disagree with. i'm not sure if you think you're going god's work or what.

I dunno. (amateurist), Friday, 30 January 2015 18:50 (nine years ago) link

i'm instantly skeptical of anyone who invokes "the left" as some kind of monolithic enterprise

I dunno. (amateurist), Friday, 30 January 2015 18:51 (nine years ago) link

note to self: never click on a mordy link again. i've wasted so much time reading thinkpieces by smart people making really dumb, overly broad arguments.

I dunno. (amateurist), Friday, 30 January 2015 18:57 (nine years ago) link

idk about "god's work" but I do prefer a "wrong" provocative piece to a "right" boring one

Mordy, Friday, 30 January 2015 19:08 (nine years ago) link

your reaction to an article you didn't like seems a bit over the top imo

Mordy, Friday, 30 January 2015 19:21 (nine years ago) link

i'm just sick of reading stupid thinkpieces, is all.

I dunno. (amateurist), Friday, 30 January 2015 19:36 (nine years ago) link

idk about "god's work" but I do prefer a "wrong" provocative piece to a "right" boring one

― Mordy, Friday, January 30, 2015 1:08 PM (28 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

disagree. who need to get their blood pressure up for no reason? not me.

I dunno. (amateurist), Friday, 30 January 2015 19:37 (nine years ago) link

Maybe its a worthwhile discussion in its own right but I'm not particularly interested in the whole leftist disingenuity wrt Islam angle he hooks the piece on. His gloating on the matter cheapens whatever genuine interest and sympathy he purports to have; even more so when he links back to earlier pieces in making his point that feature the same factional sneering.

Beyond that its a pretty good illustration of the nonsense you're likely to come up with if you evaluate culture and religion in broad strokes and through the prism of warfare. His conflation of all Sahelian conflict is particularly daft. His relating of Boko Haram to Arab racism/skin tone is baffling and completely nonsensical.

The blunt vilification of the Kanuri is appalling bordering on outright racist. In fact much of the ethnography he employs in that piece vacillates between patronising, ill considered and flat out malicious. Its baffling to me that he thinks it makes sense to refer to century old sources that are couched in the scientific racism that underpinned the colonial period and use them unreservedly in blanket evaluations of modern day people. He might as well bring out some tape and start measuring skulls.

This is a decent (and relatively concise) appraisal of much of what the article touches on for anyone that's interested.
http://africanarguments.org/2014/12/19/the-tragedy-of-borno-state-local-dimensions-of-boko-harams-insurgency-by-michael-baca/

The history he lays down is extensive (even admirably so) but also deeply flawed. You're better off disregarding his description of the civil war and its causes entirely. The narrative that places the Igbo as victims of Nigerian history and the Hausa/Fulani as the hand of oppression is seductively elegant and easy to swallow but also beyond facile. I strongly suspect that much of his understanding of the Biafra war and the Igbo people came from Chinua Achebe's "There Was a Country" and while a great read, it is a reflection of Achebe's place in Nigerian history as an Igbo man that loved his people and fought for Biafra. It reflects his growing disillusionment with the realities of Nigerian statehood shortly before he passed. It is a memoir, not a dedicated historical text but it's quite clear that this guy has treated it as such.

A weird piece. Aside from the Igbophile streak and a blanket disdain for Islamic Sahelian cultures I can't really understand where he's coming from or place what paradigms he's followed to get to a lot of the conclusions he's made. I can't be too mad at that because he's essentially working in a vacuum with this. The people he considers his peers aren't likely to challenge what he writes here and I guess that gives him room to take a lot of license with the topic. At least in that sense the lack of "Hunger for Knowledge" he refers to presents a real issue.

To his credit I will say the aside about Ben Okri made me chuckle.

tsrobodo, Tuesday, 3 February 2015 23:33 (nine years ago) link

Thanks

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 4 February 2015 16:11 (nine years ago) link

yeah, good critique there

parakeetal pancreasface (sleeve), Wednesday, 4 February 2015 16:13 (nine years ago) link

An NRA style response to a NY Times article on the brutality of Boko Haram:

Why can't we arm the women? Everyone else has guns. They seem as plentiful as gum drops. At least then they'd have a fighting chance.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/06/world/africa/boko-haram-refugees-recount-brutality-and-random-killings-in-nigerias-north.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=first-column-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

curmudgeon, Friday, 6 February 2015 15:07 (nine years ago) link

i'd love to read a breakdown of chad's foreign affairs involvement over the last 2 decades

Mordy, Friday, 6 February 2015 15:12 (nine years ago) link

Chad's involvement in Mali with the French was considered a success by some, but its role elsewhere as you have noted has been considered more problematic. Someone must have published and posted a study or report or something on their recent history

curmudgeon, Friday, 6 February 2015 18:31 (nine years ago) link

Nigeria’s election agency on Saturday night put off a closely contested presidential election after weeks of pressure to postpone it from the ruling party, which analysts say was facing potential defeat for the first time in more than 15 years

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/08/world/africa/nigeria-postpones-elections-citing-security-concerns.html?mabReward=R4&action=click&pgtype=Homepage®ion=CColumn&module=Recommendation&src=rechp&WT.nav=RecEngine

curmudgeon, Monday, 9 February 2015 16:56 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...
two weeks pass...

Goodluck Naija

A MOOC, what's a MOOC? (Bananaman Begins), Saturday, 28 March 2015 21:27 (nine years ago) link

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-32139858

General Buhari won. 1st time a sitting Nigerian president has been defeated in an election.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 31 March 2015 22:49 (nine years ago) link

So he's gonna stop corruption and Boko Haram.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 1 April 2015 14:35 (nine years ago) link

Yup he'll also bring peace to the middle east and make the NCAA pay student athletes.

Reaction has been relatively muted which I guess isn't surprising. I'd imagine most feel like his presidency doesn't actually start until we get first indication of how good (or bad) he's actually going to be.

Asari-Dokubo is tacitly and eloquently threatening a return to militancy in the Delta which is also expected but his words are resonant.

“While President Jonathan enjoys his moments and basks in the euphoria of a new world-renowned statesman having congratulated Muhammadu Buhari, we must quickly be reminded that our struggle was never about Jonathan or about the presidency.

“President Jonathan is an establishment beneficiary of our struggle, our sweat and blood that many bled and died for. He was never in the struggle and he can never wish away our collective march for statesmanship.

“Yes indeed, to an extent, he was a mitigating factor in self-determination pursuit as we went on sabbatical. This mitigation he seems to have willingly repudiated. The days coming will be critical. We shall study all the conditions and consult widely before determining the way forward for our collective existence and survival as a people. The days coming shall either drive the quest of integration or further separate us.”

tsrobodo, Thursday, 2 April 2015 11:10 (nine years ago) link

Is this the dude who jailed fela?

Mordy, Thursday, 2 April 2015 13:28 (nine years ago) link


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