RIP David Brooks

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Not sure I want to read this

If you read my comment above yours, you've already read it

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 9 January 2015 18:14 (eleven years ago)

picturing this column accompanied by a picture of Brooks in a t-shirt that reads "I AM DAVID BROOKS"

Οὖτις, Friday, 9 January 2015 18:22 (eleven years ago)

lol u guys it's so bad though

man alive, Friday, 9 January 2015 18:25 (eleven years ago)

To be fair, he's not saying that people who speak out against racial or religious insults are exactly the same as people who walk into an office and murder people. Just, you know, there's a continuum. To be safe, we should stop calling people racists.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Friday, 9 January 2015 18:31 (eleven years ago)

Yet what do we mean when we use the word meaning?

― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, January 8, 2015 1:57 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

in homage to the events in paris, david brooks will be channeling jacques derrida in this week's column

I dunno. (amateurist), Friday, 9 January 2015 19:33 (eleven years ago)

Let me put it this way: If we look at the people in history who achieved great things — like Nelson Mandela or Albert Schweitzer or Abraham Lincoln — it wasn’t because they wanted to bathe luxuriously in their own sense of meaningfulness. They had objective and eternally true standards of justice and injustice. They were indignant when those eternal standards were violated. They subscribed to moral systems — whether secular or religious — that recommended specific ways of being, and had specific structures of what is right and wrong, and had specific disciplines about how you might get better over time.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 9 January 2015 19:46 (eleven years ago)

Even remotely, distantly comparing people protesting a campus speaker to people actually shooting up a newspaper is just so insidious it's unbelievable.

man alive, Friday, 9 January 2015 19:52 (eleven years ago)

http://images.politico.com/global/2012/10/121030_david_brooks_605_ap.jpg

Let me put it this way.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 9 January 2015 19:56 (eleven years ago)

Let me tell you, in an eleven-word sentence, about "the people who achieved great things."

man alive, Friday, 9 January 2015 21:01 (eleven years ago)

Ridicule becomes less fun as you become more aware of your own frequent ridiculousness.

jmm, Friday, 9 January 2015 21:10 (eleven years ago)

that must be an excruciatingly long and slow process for him

man alive, Friday, 9 January 2015 21:24 (eleven years ago)

two months pass...

wicked subtweet

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/03/11/when-values-disappear/?_r=1

mookieproof, Thursday, 12 March 2015 14:47 (eleven years ago)

That posting is a nice rebuttal to Kristoff's misinterpretation of WJW as well as to Brook's absurd let's punish non-college going Dads for their lack of morals and values thing in a recnet column of his(based on Brooks misinterpretation of Putnam's new Our Kids book)

curmudgeon, Thursday, 12 March 2015 16:30 (eleven years ago)

every time i open this thread

http://stack-dog.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/0571AE26-7118-4B22-9810-B37B1C100BAE_zpszc2oknoh.png

flappy bird (spazzmatazz), Thursday, 12 March 2015 19:13 (eleven years ago)

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/for-david-brooks-the-rich-are-people-the-poor-are-numbers-20150311#ixzz3UG7EQzeE

Matt Taibi v. Brooks

curmudgeon, Friday, 13 March 2015 16:53 (eleven years ago)

one month passes...

Brooks is EXCITED about Marco Rubio! He has *ideas*!

On his first day in office, he handed each legislator a book with the cover “100 Innovative Ideas for Florida’s Future.” The pages were blank. He was inviting his members to fill them in — a nice collaborative touch.

well, I guess that's one way to look at it...

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 23:04 (eleven years ago)

my dad has a blank book titled everything i know about sailing; where's his bobodorsement

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 23:05 (eleven years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/sQGxpot.jpg

Flow-through nonresident pass-through entity (los blue jeans), Sunday, 26 April 2015 01:15 (eleven years ago)

Easy target but couldn't resist.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 26 April 2015 03:06 (eleven years ago)

"Despite all these efforts, there are too many young men leading lives like the one Gray led. He was apparently a kind-hearted, respectful, popular man, but he was not on the path to upward mobility. He won a settlement for lead paint poisoning. According to The Washington Post, his mother was a heroin addict who, in a deposition, said she couldn’t read. In one court filing, it was reported that Gray was four grade levels behind in reading. He was arrested more than a dozen times."

Treeship, Friday, 1 May 2015 14:24 (eleven years ago)

this is a more fucked up way to frame the situation than just saying something outright racist.

Treeship, Friday, 1 May 2015 14:25 (eleven years ago)

dude was beaten to death for no reason and brooks feels the need to scrutinize his academic record

Treeship, Friday, 1 May 2015 14:26 (eleven years ago)

Without connecting it to the fact that he was sufficiently exposed to lead paint at a young age to merit a large settlement. And connecting that to our failures in cities generally.

I might like you better if we Yelped together (Phil D.), Friday, 1 May 2015 14:33 (eleven years ago)

Like, the connection between lead exposure, brain damage and antisocial behavior is sufficiently well-established that not taking the next step in THAT little mental journey is beyond irresponsible. If you feel like that's the nut of this story, tell the whole damned story.

I might like you better if we Yelped together (Phil D.), Friday, 1 May 2015 14:34 (eleven years ago)

I mean, Brooks does address that stuff but he says the failure has to do with the culture of poverty -- avoiding that specific buzz phrase of course because it is rightly derided now. He sees Gray as a "victim" but doesn't point his finger at the institutional racism that is enshrined in policy on the federal, state, and local level. That's what's so insidious about him.

Treeship, Friday, 1 May 2015 14:36 (eleven years ago)

He's not crude enough to say "Freddie Gray was a thug and it's his own fault." He blames "systems" just not ones he could be seen as complicit in upholding.

Treeship, Friday, 1 May 2015 14:38 (eleven years ago)

and also freddie gray as far as we know didn't engage in much antisocial behavior -- brooks admits as much. and even if he did, that is immaterial. the penalty for whatever it is he might have done over the course of his life isn't supposed to be death.

Treeship, Friday, 1 May 2015 14:39 (eleven years ago)

last one: i wouldn't be too quick to make the lead paint-brain damage connection without more evidence. for most people who read below grade level, the problem isn't their capability. usually it's a problem in their educational background, a learning difference that wasn't addressed or something like that

Treeship, Friday, 1 May 2015 14:46 (eleven years ago)

In a fantastic interview that David Simon of “The Wire” gave to Bill Keller for The Marshall Project, he describes that, even in poorest Baltimore, there once were informal rules of behavior governing how cops interacted with citizens — when they’d drag them in and when they wouldn’t, what curse words you could say to a cop and what you couldn’t. But then the code dissolved. The informal guardrails of life were gone, and all was arbitrary harshness.

That’s happened across many social spheres — in schools, families and among neighbors. Individuals are left without the norms that middle-class people take for granted. It is phenomenally hard for young people in such circumstances to guide themselves.

Holy shit.

"Cops are on a rampage. Hey, that reminds me of how poor people have no morality."

jmm, Friday, 1 May 2015 14:49 (eleven years ago)

how I would love to stuff David Brooks into a woodchipper

Οὖτις, Friday, 1 May 2015 15:49 (eleven years ago)

you should be able to say any and all curse words to cops without fear of anything more than a cold stare.

he quipped with heat (amateurist), Friday, 1 May 2015 20:39 (eleven years ago)

unless they're off-duty, in which case they might smack you like anyone else.

he quipped with heat (amateurist), Friday, 1 May 2015 20:39 (eleven years ago)

higher standard

j., Friday, 1 May 2015 21:14 (eleven years ago)

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/05/opinion/david-brooks-what-is-your-purpose.html?ref=opinion

where is your porpoise?

scott seward, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 19:26 (eleven years ago)

"These days we live in a culture that is more diverse, decentralized, interactive and democratized. The old days when gray-haired sages had all the answers about the ultimate issues of life are over."

r.i.p. gray-haired dude...

scott seward, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 19:28 (eleven years ago)

he is for TPP in case ya missed it

the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 5 May 2015 19:40 (eleven years ago)

(so he and T Friedman can clink glasses over that one)

the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 5 May 2015 19:40 (eleven years ago)

Correction: May 5, 2015

An earlier version of this column misspelled the given name of a French philosopher. He was Jean-Paul Sartre, not John-Paul.

An even earlier version misspelled it as Ringo.

Vic Perry, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 19:55 (eleven years ago)

I think he was actually referring to Pope John-Paul Sartre. A gray-haired sage of the middle ages.

scott seward, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 19:58 (eleven years ago)

http://images.politico.com/global/news/110705_brooks_bloggers_nbc_328.jpg

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 May 2015 19:59 (eleven years ago)

Being Nothingness

Vic Perry, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 20:07 (eleven years ago)

As I travel on a book tour, I find there is an amazing hunger to shift the conversation.

lol

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 21:00 (eleven years ago)

"can we talk about something else besides your stupid book plz"

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 21:00 (eleven years ago)

oh shit more conversation

i heard Brooks being interviewed for 15 mins on WNYC last week before realizing it wasn't James Woods on downers.

the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 5 May 2015 21:06 (eleven years ago)

Brooks and Woods comparison making my day

Vic Perry, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 21:16 (eleven years ago)

the voices are closer than you might think!

the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 5 May 2015 21:17 (eleven years ago)

My disdain for Woods is earned since I usually made it halfway through a New Yorker article and then went uh, who is this jerk again? Oh, him.

Vic Perry, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 21:24 (eleven years ago)

James Woods, the David Brooks of literary criticism. Book him, Dan-O.

Vic Perry, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 21:34 (eleven years ago)

he means James Woods the actor, not James Wood the critic.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 May 2015 21:38 (eleven years ago)

Ah hell. I was thinking "authorial" voice. Not unreasonably.

Vic Perry, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 21:45 (eleven years ago)


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