Stephen Fry

mainly extreme overexposure

partly his ubiquity, VG. (as a friend of mine said, when we were watching the cricket and got a close up of his Holiness - 'Fucking Stephen Fry! Again! Fuck off!')

Much bruited 'National Treasure' status doesn't help anyone - your mundane pronouncements. He didn't ask for that status of course, but perhaps he could pronounce a little less.

also there's a bit of bien pensant right-on-ness that can look smug, and I wonder whether that with the periodic bouts of very public frailty is a bad look for some people.

finally, for me, i find that whole QI comedy circuit totally fucking awful, and the general chumminess that's exuded to be nauseating.

1 and 4 for me anyway, but as I say, I think 2 and 3 may play a part.

er, 'your mundane pronouncements won't usually live up to that title, causing people to question it'

gotcha. i can understand that!

Read and enjoyed The Liar probably back in high school, he's great as Jeeves, and I thought the documentary on his bipolar diagnosis was quite touching. Haven't really followed recent activities which is probably for the best, I still have generally positive feelings toward him.

QI is fucking horrible, fizzles otm

There's a wiki page "list of common misconceptions" or something you can spend 10 minutes reading that & it will spare you these awful, awful men guffawing their way through "Alan says the obvious answer and then a noise happens" for 1000 series

Also fry has said some horrible ignorant shit about women

I like him more than I did a few years ago prob cause I ignore him more successfully

He had Sue Perkins on QI as a panelist and called her Mel. And then wanted to crawl under the desk and die. The sort of thing he'd have really slated someone for doing..

Awwwww

Always feel that QI is where the BBC mission to 'educate, inform and entertain' (or whatever shape those Reithian ideals took) goes seriously off the rails although I suppose that was always wacky - ideally there shouldn't be any joins you can see.

When you watch a programme you shouldn't be aware you are necessarily being educated or entertained.

really? Not Entertained?

Yes - we'll always look to something similar in future. It closes out any other possibilities of what entertainment could mean.

I barely know who Fry is, but this Benji Madden person is just fiction, right?

Don't think he's is much good as Jeeves actually. The interpretation of the Jeeves and Wooster characters and relationship is totally off in their version. Fry's Jeeves is supercilious and smug and Jeeves is not like that.

jeeves is described as smug and supercilious all the time

by bertie tho - so he prob isnt actually like that tbh. i dont really see fry's interp as supercilious tho. i feel like hes subtle when he acts above bertie, but thats how the character is written too - those caustic "indeed sir"s

i think he's good as jeeves but when i read the books i usually imagine a slightly older, graver, less twinkly jeeves. laurie's wooster is definitive imo, almost to an annoying extent (hard for me not to hear his voice when i read wodehouse).

Jeeves is not described as smug or supercilious - by Bertie or anyone else.

Alarmed that somebody early in the thread thinks Rich Hall ruins QI whenever he appears. But he's usually the funniest person in whatever show he's in.

I do get a bit tired of some aspects of QI but I think it has less annoyances than a lot of the other panel shows. It's pretty good for whenever I'm feeling too shit or lazy to do anything else, I never go out of my way to watch it but I usually enjoy it.

I liked Fry's programmes on language, homophobia and bi-polar condition. The homophobia one (2 episodes) had some really uncomfortable moments and I thought he was very gutsy and admirable in it.

to each his own age gap, but his spouse should at least get an adult haircut.

http://www.towleroad.com/2015/01/stephen-frys-marriage-to-partner-draws-conservative-backlash-1.html

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