Ongoing U.S Police Brutality and Corruption Discussion Thread

btw NYPD union head Pat Lynch says that December protestor chants of "What do we want? Dead cops" (certainly vile) should've been tamped down by deBlasio. Cuz obviously, ppl chanting such things take their orders from da mayor!

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also the switch from active to passive voice.

cities and states rake in a FUCK TON of money from fines/fees/penalties. years past boston brought in something like $70 million worth of parking ticket fees. i know that's not a police-enforced area but imagine if parking attendants stopped enforcing that shit?

― marcos, Tuesday, January 6, 2015 3:06 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It's about this and it's also a shot across the bow. The cops are saying "we can fuck up your administration, DiBlasio." You have to understand it in context of New York City's recent history with crime and the mayor's office, with Dinkins having been perceived as not having the city under control (probably wrongly) and then Giuliani and Bloomberg coming in and "cleaning up the city." The right has been stoking fears since DiBlasio first entered the mayor's race that the city would return to chaos under his administration. The cops are basically saying "get with our program, or else we can fuck things up for you." A lot of people right now are gloating about how it hasn't "made a difference" that cops aren't doing low level arrests, but given time believe me it would make a difference in the ways that your average complainy new yorker would complain about.

your average complainy new yorker

so, all of them?

p much yeah, like if the perception in an election year were that there was more graffiti, more homeless guys sleeping on trains/pissing on sidewalks, more people blasting loud music, etc. that could definitely tip the scales against DiBlasio even if the homicide rate doesn't go up.

The revenue is also something that is not going to be felt instantly, but would have an impact if prolonged.

Do you really think, given the way this is playing out, that people would blame DiBlasio rather than the nonparticipant cops for the increased graffiti or loud music? I'm reminded of, like, Gingrich and company shutting down the government - to anybody on the fence the Republicans were transparently petty, childish and vindictive. Things like this will also not help the police's case here: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/brooklyn/nypd-rides-hood-patrol-car-brooklyn-article-1.2066644

What I'm missing in the articles I've read is a stronger cross-reading of the shutdown events with the issues this thread deals with. I'm probably talking out of my ass here, but I'd imagine at least some communities are thrilled the police aren't going around citing people for petty shit all the time. I mean, basically, if the police were pulling this stunt a few months ago, Eric Garner would still be alive, so, maybe they should stick with this thing, save some lives.

much of Queens and Staten Island in particular pretty damn pro-cop and pro-"QoL"

also all these new Brooklynites who think bar patios should close by midnight on weekends

I thought it was the old brooklynites who wanted that

all the bars serving old people closed.

in places like Carroll Gardens it was usually the old Italian Catholics trying to tamp down on bars, not the newcomer yuppies, but IDK maybe now there's a wave of more conservative yuppies.

Do you really think, given the way this is playing out, that people would blame DiBlasio rather than the nonparticipant cops for the increased graffiti or loud music?

I guess the best I could say is, maybe? He came in already with the perception that he was weak on crime, that's the whole reason he even hired Bratton in the first place. So it could stick to him.

except you can't blame him for being "weak on crime" when cops are refusing to make arrests of their own volition.

nyt had a good editorial about all this.

for "tough guys" cops seem to have the thinnest skin imaginable. i've never seen "professionals" behave so childishly en masse over what is largely a perceived greivance. (i'm not talking about the assassination of two cops, which was all too real, but the supposed lack of support from City Hall.)

i should say, largely an imagined greivance

http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/12/us/albuquerque-police-murder-charges/index.html

It's unclear if Perez is still on the force.

haha ok um really well oiled machine they're running there....

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/01/15/1357973/-Undercover-officers-infiltrate-BlackLivesMatter-protest-movement-in-Minnesota-charge-leaders

"The cost to the taxpayers of Bloomington for the police overtime and additional police resources of other communities currently exceeds $25,000," it says. "The cost to the MOA for the additional security needed to maintain public safety during the demonstration currently exceeds $8,000."

this is basically extortion. having been on the receiving end of just such a notice myself, it's totally infuriating. they just tell you you owe them money, even though you have not been ordered by a court to do so, or been convicted of a crime.

"aiding and abetting an unlawful assembly"

jfc

http://www.bagnewsnotes.com/2015/01/police-use-video-as-sympathy-propaganda-media-bait/

Do the police behave this way with any demonstration? Of course not.

I'm coming to the conclusion that a lot of police are just morons. When you pull shit like this, you're essentially saying you, the police, ought to run the community. And you have a national audience doing this. We should all feel threatened by the bad behavior we've seen from police across the country.

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/ex-nypd-made-life-living-heil-article-1.2086167

they were probably just angry about gaza

Terrible pun in the url there

goys will be goys

not US, but
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jan/22/met-police-warren-luke-cleared-kicking-mother-child-hospital

http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/16/us/florida-black-male-sniper-targets/

Wow, that NYPD article. Do they engage in hazing and justify this stuff as part of that?

Once again, NYPD: your behavior affects how police are regarded across the country. If you can't recognize that, you shouldn't have a job.

This is hardcore

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/01/25/florida-police-used-mugshots-of-black-men-for-target-practice-clergy-responded-usemeinstead/?hpid=z5

This is a wonderful response.

Good for the clergy, and holy shit on that practice. I'm also kind of boggled at the odds of one of the mugshots being the brother of the National Guardswoman who discovered this, but that's a secondary-level shock/putting myself in her shoes.

That should tell you more about the criminalization of black life than anything else

nice

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/26/opinion/charles-blow-at-yale-the-police-detained-my-son.html

How could a Yale student "fit the description" of a burglary suspect? I'll bet he doesn't. What horseshit, I hope the ACLU gets involved or they sue. It's not likely that a white Yale student would have a DEADLY WEAPON pointed at them.

How could a Yale student "fit the description" of a burglary suspect?

one guess

going with "ascot"

It just sounds too much like too many stories where some white person fingers an innocent black man. The police always expect the victim to "understand" in these circumstances. Doh, police - people aren't used to having guns pointed at them. Period. No one should have to be traumatized because you failed to find the right guy. Plus what that cop said, "we got him," was so smug. NO YOU DID NOT GeT HIM.

It just sounds too much like too many stories where some white person fingers an innocent black man.

I'm sorry, I stopped reading here due to immature giggling

lol

http: //www.buckscountycouriertimes.com/news/communities/da-drops-most-serious-charges-against-nj-woman-in-bucks/article_a1d284cd-e792-5ae3-a1c3-9c1bebad4589.html

http://www.buckscountycouriertimes.com/news/communities/da-drops-most-serious-charges-against-nj-woman-in-bucks/article_a1d284cd-e792-5ae3-a1c3-9c1bebad4589.html

Update on this girl http://www.nj.com/mercer/index.ssf/2014/09/former_high_school_star_athlete_charged_with_aggravated_assault_in_triple_hit-and-run_incident.html

can we PLEASE talk about these things here instead of the Ferguson thread?

btw ppl with interest in cop killings should read the recent new yorker piece on the ABQ police department

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/02/02/son-deceased

― k3vin k., Thursday, January 29, 2015 10:56 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

there's a shock

I know right? could it be any more stereotypical

― Οὖτις, Thursday, January 29, 2015 11:05 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

That New Yorker article is fucking insane

― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, January 29, 2015 11:07 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

― polyphonic, Thursday, January 29, 2015 11:40 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

dude literally walking by on the phone

― Sounds like a forks display name (forksclovetofu), Thursday, January 29, 2015 11:45 AM (59 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Thursday, January 29, 2015 11:48 AM (56 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Should probably go in the police brutality/corruption thread but: http://gawker.com/seattle-pd-sorry-about-arresting-70-year-old-black-vete-1682456896/

― Οὖτις Δαυ & τηε Κνιγητσ (Phil D.), Thursday, January 29, 2015 11:53 AM (51 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ha ha at that little fireplug cop in polyphonic's video. What a mental case.

― how's life, Thursday, January 29, 2015 11:58 AM (47 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

But yeah, the other thread for this, guys.

― how's life, Thursday, January 29, 2015 11:58 AM (46 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

that NYer article is seriously depressing

― Nhex, Thursday, January 29, 2015 12:15 PM (29 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

That New Yorker article is fucking insane

― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, January 29, 2015 11:07 AM (1 hour ago)

― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Thursday, January 29, 2015 12:42 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

and depressing, yeah

― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Thursday, January 29, 2015 12:43 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

hey, NYC just created a 350-cop unit equipped with MACHINE GUNS, and guess how our respected Broken Windows Commish sees them being used?

This new squad will be used to investigate and combat terrorist plots, lone wolf terrorists, and... protests. "It is designed for dealing with events like our recent protests, or incidents like Mumbai or what just happened in Paris," Bratton said, according to CBS.

http://gothamist.com/2015/01/29/nypd_machine_guns.php

MANIAC.

io, did this come up in today's Riverside Church teach-ins? Cuz I feel murder in the air.

ugh.

I wonder if these are the same machine guns they took off of criminals in very reckless-sounding sting operations in "remote, nonresidential areas" (that is, near housing projects) (as merrily reported by the Times, see even more quiddities and agonies of the ruling class - a new rolling new york times thread )

the cops said 'scuse me' on the protest angle. we'll see... interesting 'slip' from Bratton if so.

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/separate-nypd-unit-handle-large-scale-protests-article-1.2098051

It was mentioned in passing in the session I attended, I don't know what was said in the other workshops. But it's exactly the kind of thing The Gathering was designed to collaborate against obv.