2008 Primaries Thread 2: THE QUICKENING

xpost BTW she's nearly 18, cute, plans to study international relations and is a potential Obama convention delegate.

Karma zing!

2008 Candidates: Gotta' Catch 'Em All!

is there any good articles re: republican voters sabotaging the dem primary from here on out?

-- tremendoid, Monday, March 10, 2008 3:04 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

i have been wondering about this too. rush was taking full credit for hill's texas "win" on wednesday morning, but i'd like to see a more objective look at whether he really did help sway the results.

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2008/03/john_heilemann_and_joe_trippi.html

^^that's a pretty interesting exchange

Barack did win Texas, but it's too late now: worldwide media already reported Hillary won.

http://experienceproject.blogspot.com/2008/03/barack-obama-won-texas-primary-right.html

http://i29.tinypic.com/1zx6ttt.jpg

he won a slight edge in delgates because he won the caucus part of the texas 2step, he lost the primary part by a fairly small amount. he needed to win the primary by a nice 8-10% margin to mortally wound her, but her momentum from press coverage of her "win" has already mostly been killed, esp. if Obama wins tonight in Miss.

Is everything about Texas this confusing? :-)

texas is a feeling

Camp Obama fact-checks Clinton's foreign policy resume, find nothing to support her experience, making the case that Obama "does not use false charges and exaggerated claims to play politics with national security." It's a tough memo. It's about time. http://thepage.time.com/obama-foreign-policy-memo/

Geraldine Ferraro is a cunt.

I've been saying "pig", in the weeks since her Times opinion piece defending the noblesse oblige of the superdelegates...

The superdelegates were created to lead, not to follow. They were, and are, expected to determine what is best for our party and best for the country. I would hope that is why many superdelegates have already chosen a candidate to support.

Besides, the delegate totals from primaries and caucuses do not necessarily reflect the will of rank-and-file Democrats. Most Democrats have not been heard from at the polls. We have all been impressed by the turnout for this year’s primaries — clearly both candidates have excited and engaged the party’s membership — but, even so, turnout for primaries and caucuses is notoriously low. It would be shocking if 30 percent of registered Democrats have participated.

If that is the case, we could end up with a nominee who has been actively supported by, at most, 15 percent of registered Democrats. That’s hardly a grassroots mandate...

Perhaps because I have endorsed Mrs. Clinton, I have noticed that most of the people complaining about the influence of the superdelegates are supporters of Mr. Obama...

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/25/opinion/25ferraro.html

Can't you hear her sniff? If a bit too haughtily for someone with a "connected" husband?

ABC picks up the Clinton tax return story: http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=4421457

It's about time...

There is no doubt that Hillary Clinton played an important domestic policy role when she was First Lady. It is well known, for example, that she led the failed effort to pass universal health insurance...

hahahaha

this tribalism is going to kill us, yall realize that, right?

wow that obama memo wow!

traacer u do realize hillary gave him no choice - the red phone was a riiiiiinnning

obama does not so much assault clinton as he does simply assist her foot into her mouth.

yea that obama memo is some harsh shit. it is about time though. and yes to both of these:

u do realize hillary gave him no choice - the red phone was a riiiiiinnning

obama does not so much assault clinton as he does simply assist her foot into her mouth.

Clinton is good but she REALLY doesn't think she's going to win a rhetoric battle with Obama, does she?

Firm but fair seems to be about the gist of it and once again Dan is right.

Team Obama also calling for Team Clinton to repudiate Ferarro's comment.

SHAME ON YOU GERALDINE FERRARO...

Hey, for one sentence Ferraro in her shitbrick hit gold:

"Anyone that has worked in the Congress knows that for over 200 years this country has had partisanship - that's the way our country is."

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/03/10/large_310.jpg

Clinton campaigner in WSJ - damn that Barack Obama and those meddling kids:

Supporters of Sen. Clinton also worry about young voters, male and female, who have turned out in large numbers for Sen. Obama. "Young students for Obama could stay home; that's one reason I am so furious at them," says Fran Reiter, former deputy mayor of New York and a Clinton supporter. "They are all excited about him, and they don't have any staying power. If Obama doesn't get the nomination, do they get angry again and crawl back into their apathetic hole?"

I am shocked, shocked...

haha

I COUKLD JUST WRING THEIR APATHETIC LITTLE NECKS FOR BEING SO...INTERESTED.

That Obama Memo: IT'S ABOUT TIME. I hope it's the start of a trend for Obama.

The Clinton campaign has responded to the memo, trying to characterize it as a "false attack":

http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2008/03/sweet_clinton_calls_obamas_gre.html

The Obama campaign spends considerable time trying to "prove" that a private conversation between Hillary and President Clinton never happened.

I kind of agree with this, actually. That was the weakest part of the memo.

im not really sure why everyone is being all omg when will an obama atak - hes been good at refuting bullshit all along and when hillary took it to the next level he used his well-earned wiggle room to wait til after texas/ohio see if he even needed to make the party damaging move of hitting hillary where it hurts - since then hes been ramping up the push back

im pretty much through criticizing his campaign on tactical/strategic stuff - cause you know so far its been run insanely ingeniously

That Hillary memo was snoresville

Weirdly tautological and seemed to have been written in about two minutes.

any time you can mention Sinbad it's a plus, though

I kind of agree with this, actually. That was the weakest part of the memo.

You're right, but the way HRC describes her involvement makes it very hard to refute it any other way. Obama does say that "it's notable" that neither HRC nor Bill Clinton mentioned this private conversation in either of their memoirs. That's some evidence, I think, although admittedly weak evidence. But again, given the nature of HRC's claim, what else could Obama say?

sinbad zing is a+

white people engage in diplomacy like this...

yeah Sinbad made me lol

http://www.blackcomedycompetition.com/images/Sinbad.jpg

i didnt see this posted ... was it?
http://media.gallup.com/poll/graphs/031008DailyUpdateGraph1.gif

I REALLY REALLY hope there is a pic out there of sinband + HRC

http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/03/sinbad-speaks.php

CLINTON-SINBAD '08

on the left

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/5196J30ERPL.jpg

xxpost

Benson!

Believe it or not, the woman on the far right is supposedly a Hillary impersonator:

http://www.hillarylookalike.com/photos/Sinbad_TeresaBarnwell_527x434.jpg

I could see that

You're right, but the way HRC describes her involvement makes it very hard to refute it any other way.

No, I know. I meant it was the weakest part of the Obama memo for this very reason.

she can tell people she told bill anything during his term that he did wrong was a bad idea and no one can refute it. HOW CONVENIENT