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for those in the UK interested in choral singing/chanting and photos of Syria from before the current fighting, Jason Hamacher of LostOrigins.com will be speaking in Cambridge January 5th

ARADIN Christmas Concert
Monday January 5 from 19:30 to 21:00
The Epiphany, ARADIN fundraising concert with a surprise, at at Great Saint Mary’s Church, Cambridge, 7:30-9p.m, Monday 5th January 2015

ARADIN supports education and cultural preservation of the minorities in the Middle East, in particular Christian communities.

Tickets: £12.00, (£10.00 concessions). Tickets can be purchased at the door or at the shop of Great Saint Mary’s).

* Special guest, Jason Hamacher, founder of Lost Origins Productions, a production house that explores ancient civilisations to discover unique stories from the past and present, will be joining us to give a testimony on his research into Syrian and Armenian chant.

There will be a prayer vigil before the concert between 6:45-7:15pm. in particular for the Christians in Iraq and Syria. All welcome.

curmudgeon, Sunday, 4 January 2015 17:41 (nine years ago) link

http://www.haaretz.com/1.635316

Israel has requested that US legislation to block all aid to Palestine if they attempt to bring any action in the ICC is enforced.

Earlier Sunday, Foreign Ministry Director-General Nissim Ben Sheetrit said that Israel’s response to the Palestinian bid at the ICC would be much harsher and more comprehensive than freezing the PA’s tax revenues. Ben Sheetrit made the remarks at a conference held in Jerusalem for Israel’s envoys to Europe.

“Israel is about to switch from defense to attack mode,” he said.

Sheetrit said, however, that unlike in the past, Israel will not launch a wave of settlement construction in response to the Palestinian moves. He also added Israel had no interest in undermining security cooperation with the PA or to cause its collapse

However, an order has just gone through to move an army base in the West Bank with a view to expanding settlements there.

Wristy Hurlington (ShariVari), Monday, 5 January 2015 08:19 (nine years ago) link

Hilarious.

how's life, Monday, 5 January 2015 10:33 (nine years ago) link

http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/05/middleeast/forgotten-in-aleppo/

curmudgeon, Monday, 5 January 2015 19:41 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, let's def hail the guy murdering thousands of religious opponents, that guy is def progressive on these matters.

Frederik B, Monday, 5 January 2015 21:27 (nine years ago) link

Thousands? Without a citation I have a hard time believing Sisi has murdered any more than hundreds of religious opponents since he took office.

earthface, windface and fireface (Aimless), Monday, 5 January 2015 21:36 (nine years ago) link

all hail sisi

Mordy, Monday, 5 January 2015 21:38 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, let's def hail the guy murdering thousands of religious opponents

― Frederik B, Monday, 5 January 2015 21:27 (16 minutes ago)

sure but in the longrun this move might be even more helpful

nakhchivan, Monday, 5 January 2015 21:45 (nine years ago) link

I'm sure the Egyptian religious community is gonna take notes from Sisi rmde

Οὖτις, Monday, 5 January 2015 21:58 (nine years ago) link

the madawi al rasheed book about the house of saud i just read largely downplayed the role of qutbism and the muslim brotherhood in fomenting the salafist turn in arabia post-80s, which is the primary formative influence on al qaeda

egypt hasn't really contributed that heavily to worldwide jihadism in most respects relative to the size of the country, despite all the admiring notices they get for headline names like qutb or qaradawi from people like adam curtis

the muslim brotherhood are primarily a containable domestic yobbery threat now and sinai is obviously full of agitation and money from across the border

nakhchivan, Monday, 5 January 2015 22:58 (nine years ago) link

feel like egypt is maybe regretting negotiating so hard to get the sinai back

Mordy, Monday, 5 January 2015 23:20 (nine years ago) link

Thousands? Without a citation I have a hard time believing Sisi has murdered any more than hundreds

> 1600 killed in street protests, at least 1200 political death sentences, though to my knowledge only 8 executions (for non-political offenses) in 2014.

could at least have the decency to groove (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 7 January 2015 16:22 (nine years ago) link

ty

earthface, windface and fireface (Aimless), Wednesday, 7 January 2015 18:55 (nine years ago) link

2015 thread?

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 8 January 2015 18:29 (nine years ago) link

Looks like there is disagreement on a name and what countries can be included.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 8 January 2015 18:32 (nine years ago) link

https://twitter.com/Mudar_Zahran/status/558251192548352002

Mordy, Thursday, 22 January 2015 14:57 (nine years ago) link

Death and discrimination comes later?

panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 22 January 2015 15:06 (nine years ago) link

he's hilarious - look at his timeline. "Mudar Zahran is a Jordanian Palestinian politician and the secretary general of the Jordanian Opposition Coalition"

Mordy, Thursday, 22 January 2015 15:09 (nine years ago) link

https://twitter.com/Mudar_Zahran/status/558206642723246080

Mordy, Thursday, 22 January 2015 15:09 (nine years ago) link

Never heard of the Houthi in Yemen till the other day

WASHINGTON — Only months ago, American officials were still referring to Yemen’s negotiated transition from autocracy to an elected president as a model for post-revolutionary Arab states.

Now, days of factional gun battles in the Yemeni capital have left the president a puppet figure confined to his residence. The country appears to be at risk of fragmenting in ways that could provide greater opportunities both for Iran and for Al Qaeda, whose Yemeni branch claimed responsibility for the first Paris terrorist attack this month.

The latest Yemeni crisis raises the prospect of yet another Arab country where the United States faces rising dangers but has no strong partners amid a landscape of sectarian violence. Although the Houthi rebels who now effectively control the state are at war with Al Qaeda, they are also allied with Iran and with Yemen’s meddlesome former president, Ali Abdullah Saleh.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/22/world/middleeast/yemen-at-risk-of-fragmenting.html

curmudgeon, Thursday, 22 January 2015 15:14 (nine years ago) link

King Abdullah has apparently died.

Wristy Hurlington (ShariVari), Thursday, 22 January 2015 23:35 (nine years ago) link

rip big man

goole, Thursday, 22 January 2015 23:37 (nine years ago) link

good riddance

Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 January 2015 23:38 (nine years ago) link

Heard on the BBC, former Prime Minister Blair calling him a reformer because more women are in universities now. Then the Amnesty International guy responded that while that was good, most of those women were likely from well-to-do families; plus the human rights issues remain horrible there and women can't drive, etc.

curmudgeon, Friday, 23 January 2015 16:01 (nine years ago) link

Who wants to bet Dick Cheney flies over to attend Abdullah's funeral.

Aimless, Friday, 23 January 2015 18:14 (nine years ago) link

I'm not watching this video fwiw but hey great friends of the US amirite

http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/21/middleeast/saudi-beheading-video/

Οὖτις, Friday, 23 January 2015 21:54 (nine years ago) link

my eurocentrism led me to believe all monarchial systems had pretty clear rules of succession. whoops!

goole, Friday, 23 January 2015 21:56 (nine years ago) link

He had suggested to an American counterterrorism official that electronic chips be implanted in detainees at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba.

He said it had worked with horses and falcons, to which the American replied, “Horses don’t have good lawyers.”

truly a force for moderation

Οὖτις, Friday, 23 January 2015 21:59 (nine years ago) link

the American's reply is worse i think

goole, Friday, 23 January 2015 22:03 (nine years ago) link

whole exchange is disgusting, the American wink-wink "joke" included

Οὖτις, Friday, 23 January 2015 22:19 (nine years ago) link

Getting worse in Yemen:

Yemen Government in Limbo Amid Uncertainty Over President’s Resigation

Yemen could easily become a worse humanitarian crisis than Syria. Sana'a was already [running out of water](http://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2012/aug/27/solution-yemen-water-crisis) when it had a semi-functioning government.

excreting zeitgeist (Sanpaku), Saturday, 24 January 2015 01:12 (nine years ago) link

ISIS in the Sinai, Yazidis on the right, here I am...

walid foster dulles (man alive), Thursday, 29 January 2015 23:42 (nine years ago) link

In Washington Post neo-con Editorial page editor Fred Hiatt's mind Obama's not trying hard enough to find the moderates throughout the region that the US should support. Not that I approve of US support for Saudi and Egyptian dictators or that I approve of the handling of Libya and elsewhere, but Hyatt does not seem to recognize just how difficult it is to find those moderates :

“After decades of accepting the world as it is in the region, we have a chance to pursue the world as it should be,” the president said.

So what happened? The Arab Spring didn’t go as hoped — and the United States began to lose the war. An al-Qaeda offshoot shockingly conquered large swaths of Iraq and Syria. Libya descended into civil war. Yemen, which Obama cited just last year as proof of his successful strategy, is on a similar downward spiral. The Taliban is gaining ground in Afghanistan. Boko Haram is carving out another space for barbarism in Nigeria.

When Obama is questioned about this picture, he generally stands up his favorite straw man: “If the assertion is, is that had we invaded Syria we would be less prone to terrorist attacks, I’ll leave it to you to play out that scenario and whether that sounds accurate,” he said during his recent news conference with British leader David Cameron.

But that is not the assertion. What critics suggest is that Obama should implement the strategy he outlined in a speech at West Point in May: not a U.S. invasion, not a subcontracting of the war to heavy-handed dictators, but “a network of partnerships from South Asia to the Sahel” with moderate forces committed to fighting extremism.

Unfortunately, Obama has put little meat on that strategy. He toppled Libya’s strongman, then abandoned the country. He pulled all advisers out of Iraq and vows to do the same to Afghanistan. He emphasizes drone strikes, but with little of the institution-building that would engender cooperation over the long term. Help for Syrian moderates has been promised again and again for four years, with little to show for it. And instead of building public support for what must be a long and difficult effort, Obama barnstorms the country boasting that “our troops are coming home.”

curmudgeon, Friday, 30 January 2015 05:13 (nine years ago) link

big suicide bombing in pakistan today - shiite target

Mordy, Friday, 30 January 2015 16:18 (nine years ago) link

I'm reading Lawrence Wright's "Thirteen Days in September" now (about the Camp David negotiations) -- Mordy (or anyone else) have you read it? Thoughts? So far it seems very pop history in style, and maybe indulges in some speculation about motivations, but very good nonetheless.

walid foster dulles (man alive), Friday, 30 January 2015 16:20 (nine years ago) link

this is the one that just came out last year? wright is an engaging writer, but i haven't read it yet

Mordy, Friday, 30 January 2015 16:21 (nine years ago) link

yeah that one. friend lent it to me, I enjoy his writing a lot (have read Going Clear and a lot of his New Yorker work).

walid foster dulles (man alive), Friday, 30 January 2015 16:28 (nine years ago) link

ISIS hijacking UN aid to Syria, slapping their logo on it

Mordy, Tuesday, 3 February 2015 17:49 (nine years ago) link

all these hostage murders... what do they think they're achieving, exactly? so far, no one meets their demands, they kill the guys in a brutal fashion, rinse and repeat. I guess it keeps them in the headlines/furthers their notoriety but it seems kind of pointless from a tactical standpoint. If anything it just sharpens the resolution of their opponents, I would think.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 3 February 2015 18:28 (nine years ago) link

helps w/ recruitment i'd guess

Mordy, Tuesday, 3 February 2015 18:28 (nine years ago) link

saddened to live in a world where that's a successful recruiting tactic

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 3 February 2015 18:31 (nine years ago) link

In this case, it is

A trumpet growing in a garden (Tom D.), Tuesday, 3 February 2015 18:31 (nine years ago) link

The horrific hostage murder strategy is probably subject to the law of diminishing returns by now. But it is interesting to note that beheading individual westerners gave them greater attention and notoriety in the USA than when they were massacring hundreds of locals as they captured cities in Syria and Iraq.

Aimless, Tuesday, 3 February 2015 18:36 (nine years ago) link

idk what's interesting about that we have a long history of not giving a fuck about people who are not US citizens

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 3 February 2015 18:39 (nine years ago) link


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