Pulp Fiction (the movie)

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After seeing it a few times in a campus theater(it played for over a full year, and lasted long after the tape came out), I rented the tape while at the parents' house over Christmas Break 1995 and mistakenly left it out atop the family room tv. I came home to find my rather conservative parents watching it, and none too pleased. "This is GARBAGE!" was the quote, i believe. I told them to stop watching before they got to the 2nd part of the film and then left the house. Never said a word about it ever again.

Also, cosign w/ the soundtrack and undergrad life. Freshman year was 94-95, and EVERY SINGLE FUCKER on my floor would blast this. When I worked the travelling movie poster show that would come to campus twice a year, we sold dozens of related one-sheets every day for years. (full disclosure: i did have a poster of Jules sitting in the cafe)

Jackie Brown I will go back and watch from time to time and enjoy, but I have no interest in seeing this flick again for a very long time.

kingfish moose tracks (kingfish 2.0), Sunday, 28 January 2007 09:39 (nineteen years ago)

love this and i think jackie brown has aged very well

deej.. (deej..), Sunday, 28 January 2007 09:47 (nineteen years ago)

maybe its my badly educated tastes but i love the film, RD & JB

secondhandnews (secondhandnews), Sunday, 28 January 2007 11:04 (nineteen years ago)

"Having watched it again for the first time in a long while" - maybe this has been xxposted, but...you can't do that unless you're Dr. Who!

aimurchie (aimurchie), Sunday, 28 January 2007 13:16 (nineteen years ago)

It's okay. Not my favourite Tarantino (and I'm not even a big Tarantino fan), but it's fun to watch.

One unifying theme I noticed while I rewatched it is that the movie is all about how how little decisions and seemingly irrelevant acts can build up to make a big change. There's two or three occasions when someone's life is either lost or saved because he happens to be in a toilet. Also, there's the Willis character forgetting his watch, him running into Marcellus Wallace on the street, etc etc. I think there are of many of these scenes in the film for it to be unintentional.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Sunday, 28 January 2007 13:53 (nineteen years ago)

Quentin Tarantino is someone who has caught a whiff of it. He wasn't there in the sixties and the seventies, but he knows pretty much what went down, and he knows that peoples reactions to it are fucked, and he knows that psychosis was and is involved, and he feels himself to be the legitimate heir of that, to some extent. I believe he is. I believe he feels in his mind pretty much what sixties and seventies people felt in their minds. He just happens to belong to another generation, and he has every right to tell the story. The point I'm going to make here is that there's one part of the movie that doesn't work, and its the World War II reference. Christopher Walken comes--it's a dream sequence that Bruce Willis is dreaming, and I won't describe the scene, because it's really quite repulsive--I don't mean the scatology of it, but the point of view. It's not from the film. It's from something else. It's something Quentin Tarantino doesn't know about, he didn't know how to deal with it, and he dealt with it in a very simple way. He used a literary template; the template is mostly from Catch-22, say, some sort of absurdist treatment of World War II, earned on the part of Joseph Heller, unearned on the part of Quentin Tarantino, and he's done a very typical sort of directorial thing. He's not familiar with the material, he doesn't have any instinct for the material, but he finds a very good actor, Mr. Walken, to carry it off for him, and to some extent, Walken does. But it's wrong. It stands outside the values of the film, precisely because it stands inside the values of the film.

and what (ooo), Sunday, 28 January 2007 14:11 (nineteen years ago)

Really? I thought that was just part of the whole "pulp" thing. Tarantino doesn't know how WWII soldier feels any more than he knows how a gangster feels - he just takes these cliched, pulpy stories (like a family heirloom kept throughout the war) and expands them to near-ridiculous heights (what happens to the watch).

Tuomas (Tuomas), Sunday, 28 January 2007 14:45 (nineteen years ago)

thats george trow from 'my pilgrim's progress'

and what (ooo), Sunday, 28 January 2007 14:47 (nineteen years ago)

roger avery wrote the whole bruce willis part fwiw. also yes... this is a GREAT "LA" movie!

chaki (chaki), Sunday, 28 January 2007 14:49 (nineteen years ago)

The guy who gets shot on the couch first during the whole Eziekel segment. In the script, it said the character would have a Flock of Seagulls haircut, though that wasn't really the case in the movie.

isn't it alexis arquette--who did have a flock of seagulls haircut in the wedding singer? and in real life he is gay. so yeah.

cutty (mcutt), Sunday, 28 January 2007 15:13 (nineteen years ago)

i think he cut off his cock

chaki (chaki), Sunday, 28 January 2007 15:14 (nineteen years ago)

"isn't it alexis arquette"

No, Arquette's the guy in the bathroom. They guy who gets shock on the couch is Flock of Seaguls guy.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 28 January 2007 15:41 (nineteen years ago)

There's two or three occasions when someone's life is either lost or saved because he happens to be in a toilet.

"Tarantino's Toilets"
http://www.brightlightsfilm.com/45/toilets.htm

Hoosteen (Hoosteen), Sunday, 28 January 2007 16:07 (nineteen years ago)

sometimes I think the sequence where bruce willis picking through the pawn shop until he finds the katana is the acme of cinema up to that point. but then again I only just realized this weekend why girls think logan's run is totally boring.

TOMBO7 (TOMBOT), Sunday, 28 January 2007 16:30 (nineteen years ago)

oh and yeah I love the way tarantino tries to make up for the fact that nobody ever goes to the bathroom in any other movies ever

TOMBO7 (TOMBOT), Sunday, 28 January 2007 16:30 (nineteen years ago)

The abovelinked essay is really insipid, but I stumbled across it a few months back and your comment made me recall it.

xposts

Hoosteen (Hoosteen), Sunday, 28 January 2007 16:34 (nineteen years ago)

I didn't bother to read the essay, but it doesn't seem to be what I was talking about. Samuel Jackson ends up stopping the robber (and possibly saving himself and John Travolta) because he was in the toilet, whereas Travolta gets killed for the same reason. Doesn't Uma Thurman also OD while Travolta is in the toilet? And then there's the guy in the toilet who shoots at Jackson, which results in him quitting the business, which can also be seen to result in Travolta getting killed and Willis surviving (because if Jackson had been there in Willis's apartment with Travolta the whole scene would've probably gone differently). But toilets are just the most obvious example of small things leading into big ones, as I said there are also other scenes like this in Pulp Fiction.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Sunday, 28 January 2007 17:03 (nineteen years ago)

Jules didn't go to the can in the diner.

do i have to draw you a diaphragm (Rock Hardy), Sunday, 28 January 2007 17:23 (nineteen years ago)

yeah he got that backwards but you know what he meant

TOMBO7 (TOMBOT), Sunday, 28 January 2007 17:25 (nineteen years ago)

Oh yeah, it was Travolta who goes to the toilet, right? It's been years since I last saw PF. The point is the same anyway: first going to the toilet saves him, then dooms him.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Sunday, 28 January 2007 17:46 (nineteen years ago)

i think the problem with tarantino imitators is they copy the premises of his films but not the style nor the pace, which is fairly leisurely.

This is something else I was enjoying in the rewatching as well -- he does quiet and calm brilliantly, while still keeping you engaged (that's the other element of those long Willis tracking shots, but also the pacing of the one on one conversations and much more besides).

Also, I think the scene with Willis and de Medeiros in the motel room on the night after the fight is a great *love* scene, period. I don't know if Tarantino ever gets any credit for that (though I note Chaki's post, in which case I don't know if Avery gets any credit for that, but at least in terms of directing it Tarantino needs a nod).

The soundtrack served, along with Enter the 36 Chambers, Sublime's 40 oz to Freedom, The Fugee's The Score, and the Resevoir Dogs soundtrack, to the albums most likely to be blared out of a room on my freshman year dorm floor. I was SO tired of hearing the Ezekiel 25:17 intro EVERY SINGLE FRIDAY NIGHT that I stopped listening to it entirely.

I think I got lucky with this in that I was in the grad dorms by this point rather than undergrad. We were a little more studious/psychotic, and even the Cure being playing a little too loud by me once got pounding on the wall from my neighbour.

it suffers from Monty Python syndrome in a bad way

I was also lucky there in my experience. (This is not to say other things weren't quoted as often around that time. There's also an issue of Bob Fingerman's Minimum Wage that has a bit which is the final word that ever needs to be said about overly quoted references by anyone ever -- logically, I will not quote it.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 28 January 2007 22:50 (nineteen years ago)

also Steve Buscemi as the Buddy Holly waiter!

Which I had totally forgotten until the end credits. Threw me for a loop!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 28 January 2007 22:51 (nineteen years ago)

three months pass...
I saw this for the first time last night! I loved it, but maybe it's less novel if you've been immersed in Pulp Fiction and references to it for the past 13 years.

Curt1s Stephens, Saturday, 28 April 2007 18:11 (nineteen years ago)

I saw it in a local theater near the end of its run in town, after it had been hyped a fair amount. I was of two minds about it. It had a brilliant surface, but it was depressingly violent, empty and soulless. The stuff with Bruce Willis and the SM was especially ugly and manipulative - just how was this different from pornography?

My difficulty with Tarantino is not that his movies are derivative of other movies, but that they are not derivative of anything else, such as human life or his own ideas. Even as pure fantasies it seems that his images must be filtered through other people's movies before Tarantino can grasp them as material. He can't seem to fantasize for himself without a movie as a remedial aid.

I like Jackie Brown best among what I've seen of his stuff, if only because it simulated human beings and simple emotions better than usual. Knowing Tarantino, this simulation was wholly synthetic and based on his reading of other movies, but it works well enough to do the job.

Aimless, Saturday, 28 April 2007 18:57 (nineteen years ago)

I think Jackie Brown has a such a different feel to his other movies is because it is an Elmore Leonard novel. While I think Elmore Leonard is someone that has influenced Tarentino, Leonard's style is a much more low key. While Tarentino did make some changes, he did keep the relative feel of the novel true in the film.

earlnash, Saturday, 28 April 2007 23:59 (nineteen years ago)

i can see why someone would think that tarantino's work is empty and soulless, but i really don't think it is.

latebloomer, Sunday, 29 April 2007 02:30 (nineteen years ago)

i think that. i think that pulp fiction is still a good enough story to be compelling. but i saw kill bill 1 and now know exactly what each of his other movies is like just by reading about it and they are crap.

lfam, Sunday, 29 April 2007 03:06 (nineteen years ago)

Kill Bill 1 is pretty empty and soulless, but KB2 has a pretty well-judged action/soul ratio, and redeems the first one thoroughly IMHO. It's still fairly superficial, but has enough character stuff to be totally compelling. Maybe that wouldn't be the case if it weren't so darn well-made. Anyway, it's 4 AM, I've been drinking and I'm rambling.

chap, Sunday, 29 April 2007 03:13 (nineteen years ago)

Kill Bill 1 was anything but soulless.

I think you could make the soulless claims about RD and PF - there's less Tarantino in them than homage and flair for flair's sake. But with Brown, KB1/2 (though 2 wasn't terribly successful) and Death Proof, Tarantino has become a much more interesting filmmaker.

milo z, Sunday, 29 April 2007 03:17 (nineteen years ago)

one year passes...

December 13, 2008
Prosecutors charged Oscar-winning screenwriter Roger Avary with gross vehicular manslaughter on Friday, alleging that the author of such hits as "Pulp Fiction" and last year's "Beowulf" was driving drunk when he killed a passenger and injured his wife in a rural Ojai car crash.

Avary, 43, pleaded not guilty in a Ventura courthouse to manslaughter and other charges connected to the Jan. 13 single-car collision. Investigators said Avary was at the wheel of a Mercedes sedan late that night when he failed to make a curve and crashed into a telephone pole. Prosecutors said his blood alcohol level was above the legal limit.

Passenger Andreas Zini, 34, was killed in the collision. Avary's wife, Gretchen, was ejected from the vehicle. She suffered serious injuries but recovered.

Zini and his wife, Maria, 33, both of Italy, were visiting the Avarys on their honeymoon, said Mike Lief, the prosecutor on the case. Maria Zini was in a separate car when the crash occurred, he said.

Avary's attorney, Mark Werksman, said that his client is distraught. Avary, in a dark suit, attended Friday's hearing but did not speak.

Now that charges have been filed, Avary hopes to quickly resolve the case, his attorney said. Besides felony manslaughter, Avary faces two felony counts of causing bodily injury while intoxicated, charges that could bring 11 years behind bars. A pretrial conference is set for Feb. 20 in Ventura.

In a separate hearing Friday, Lief sought to raise Avary's bail to $80,000 from $50,000. But Judge Kevin McGee, noting that Avary has attended all court proceedings, turned down the prosecutor's request. The judge also gave Avary, who is out on bail, permission to travel outside the country.

Avary and co-writer Quentin Tarantino won an Academy Award in 1994 for "Pulp Fiction." Avary also co-wrote the screenplay for 2007's fantasy hit "Beowulf."

penice (velko), Sunday, 14 December 2008 10:32 (seventeen years ago)

four months pass...

Reading a review not too long ago that said that Sam Jackson's Bible-quoting psychopath comes from Night of the Hunter, which is plausible, but when I watched 1972's 'The Ruling Class' with Peter O'Toole not too long ago O'Toole's character (esp. towards the end) struck me as a better touchstone. The movie even ends with a similar speech ("And they shall know that I am the Lord that SMITETH!!!".

Cunga, Sunday, 10 May 2009 06:55 (seventeen years ago)

six months pass...

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-avary28-2009nov28,0,3500921.story

velko, Saturday, 28 November 2009 10:34 (sixteen years ago)

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-avary28-2009nov28,0,3500921.story

velko, Saturday, 28 November 2009 10:35 (sixteen years ago)

three years pass...

Not exactly earth-shaking but some cool tidbits in this VF story

I especially liked the story of how Jackson ended up having to fight for the role
http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2013/03/making-of-pulp-fiction-oral-history#

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 15 February 2013 19:15 (thirteen years ago)

lol @ the parenthetical here:

The script was sent out to actors with the warning “If you show this to anybody, two guys from Jersey [Films] will come and break your legs.”

Welcome to my world of proses (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 15 February 2013 20:07 (thirteen years ago)

They talked until sunrise. Tarantino told him he had two films in mind for him. “A vampire movie called From Dusk Till Dawn and Pulp Fiction,” says Travolta, who replied, “I’m not a vampire person.”

also wtf can't believe there's ANYTHING Travolta won't do

Welcome to my world of proses (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 15 February 2013 20:13 (thirteen years ago)

otm

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 15 February 2013 20:23 (thirteen years ago)

A New Yorker profile of Travolta before the release of Get Shorty quotes Tarantino saying exactly that. Something like "He'll star in Look Who's Talking 16, where the CHAIRS talk."

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 15 February 2013 20:33 (thirteen years ago)

it's funny how much these "making of" oral histories always break down to "and then a bunch of REALLY EXCITING meetings happened"

Welcome to my world of proses (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 15 February 2013 20:35 (thirteen years ago)

Daniel Day-Lewis was considered!

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 15 February 2013 20:41 (thirteen years ago)

how weird would that be

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 15 February 2013 20:49 (thirteen years ago)

At the wrap party, held on the Jack Rabbit Slim’s diner set, Walken danced alongside John Travolta. “Somebody said, ‘They should do a musical together!’ ” remembers Stoltz. (They were later both in Hairspray.)

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 15 February 2013 20:50 (thirteen years ago)

"Somebody said, 'They should take a roadtrip together!'" (They were later both killed in an automobile accident.)

schlump, Friday, 15 February 2013 20:56 (thirteen years ago)

"Someone said, 'Travolta is SO gay!" (John Travolta has not come out).

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 15 February 2013 20:56 (thirteen years ago)

i love how Travolta came up with the 'Batman' and 'Swim' moves in the dance scene!

piscesx, Friday, 15 February 2013 21:23 (thirteen years ago)

yeah that was awesome. lol at the 9 year old Travolta winning the twist contest

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 15 February 2013 21:26 (thirteen years ago)

http://nyookami.tumblr.com/post/43539515046

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 20 February 2013 05:02 (thirteen years ago)

aw travolta was awesome Hairspray

k3vin k., Wednesday, 20 February 2013 05:09 (thirteen years ago)

I couldnt stand it any longer. Am watching it right now

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 20 February 2013 05:18 (thirteen years ago)

Pulp. Not Hairspray

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 20 February 2013 05:18 (thirteen years ago)


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