So how have you been pronouncing Baton Rouge?
― Root It Oot (Tom D.), Tuesday, 23 December 2014 13:16 (nine years ago) link
Always thought it was buh-TAWN
that's how michael johnson always says it tbf
― Ottbot jr (NickB), Tuesday, 23 December 2014 13:23 (nine years ago) link
Slaithwaite
― anvil, Tuesday, 23 December 2014 13:28 (nine years ago) link
So how have you been pronouncing Baton Rouge?― Root It Oot (Tom D.), Tuesday, December 23, 2014 8:16 AM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Root It Oot (Tom D.), Tuesday, December 23, 2014 8:16 AM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
The second way, but I've never considered it as the same thing that a cheerleader twirls or a police beats someone with.
― how's life, Tuesday, 23 December 2014 13:30 (nine years ago) link
Even though it is?
― Root It Oot (Tom D.), Tuesday, 23 December 2014 13:50 (nine years ago) link
Always thought it was buh-TAWN, but I just listened to a newscast where it was referred to as a BAA-tun.
And BAA-ton?
― Root It Oot (Tom D.), Tuesday, 23 December 2014 13:54 (nine years ago) link
fwiw i have relatives in louisiana who rhyme baton with satin
― ♪♫_\o/_♫♪ (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 23 December 2014 14:06 (nine years ago) link
That's what I was trying to convey with the second pronunciation.
― how's life, Tuesday, 23 December 2014 14:07 (nine years ago) link
I'm just faking my way through being able to write words phonetically.
regional dialects ftwthere is no "wrong" if people understand you
― vigetable (La Lechera), Tuesday, 23 December 2014 14:39 (nine years ago) link
also http://ipa.typeit.org/
Yes there is no such thing as mispronunciation &c but there's a weird mispronunciation I've been hearing more & more (basically from listening to US podcasts) that I can't help but find grating: this bizarre mangling of the word "processes" so the last syllable sounds like the last syllable of "indices", "theses" &c. It's obv an example of overcorrection & not a big deal but it sounds dumb as hell imo - god knows how the first person got it in their head to start doing this, having presumably heard other people speak before
― diary of a mod how's life (wins), Saturday, 19 November 2016 12:07 (seven years ago) link
Oh, I've heard that one lots of times. I never really knew where it came from. Is it new? I don't know if I personally know someone who does it. I also don't think I know anyone who drops the "h" in "historical" or "hotel" when speaking English or who pronounces "detail" like dəˈtāl, although I've heard all of these on TV.
― Spiritual Hat Minimalism (Sund4r), Saturday, 19 November 2016 13:48 (seven years ago) link
who pronounces "detail" like dəˈtāl
What vowel sound are the "process-eez" people using in the first syllable? I use the same long "o" in "process" and "project" (as a noun) that I use in "program(me)" but I don't think anyone else in the US does. Does anyone outside Canada pronounce "project" with a long "o"?
― Spiritual Hat Minimalism (Sund4r), Saturday, 19 November 2016 13:54 (seven years ago) link
Does anyone outside Canada pronounce "project" with a long "o"?
Yes.
― The Doug Walters of Crime (Tom D.), Saturday, 19 November 2016 13:57 (seven years ago) link
processeees people are all american so use the short "o" sound which is more common over there I think
― diary of a mod how's life (wins), Saturday, 19 November 2016 14:02 (seven years ago) link
as far as being new, it's new to me at least
often have to suppress a slight cringe with hypercorrections but with this I lean towards confidently stating it's bad
"remember to tip your waitresseees"
― diary of a mod how's life (wins), Saturday, 19 November 2016 14:10 (seven years ago) link
loves his word sounds
― imago, Saturday, 19 November 2016 14:17 (seven years ago) link
Not that it matters much, but I am utterly puzzled by how to pronounce: Mafeking.
― A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 18 August 2019 19:19 (four years ago) link
It's mentioned in a few Monty Python sketches.
― Boulez, vous couchez avec moi? (Tom D.), Sunday, 18 August 2019 19:20 (four years ago) link
I use the same long "o" in "process" and "project" (as a noun) that I use in "program(me)" but I don't think anyone else in the US does. Does anyone outside Canada pronounce "project" with a long "o"?
As an American I can say that long-o "process" is a Canadian tell for me.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 18 August 2019 19:21 (four years ago) link
That doesn't get me any further than I was before.
― A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 18 August 2019 19:23 (four years ago) link
Three years on I’m still pretty sure process-eez is bad, what the fuck are you doing Americans
― YouGov to see it (wins), Sunday, 18 August 2019 19:25 (four years ago) link
This is war and you will have to hit the mattress-eez
― YouGov to see it (wins), Sunday, 18 August 2019 19:26 (four years ago) link
Maff/e/king
... can't get the schwa symbol to work.
― Boulez, vous couchez avec moi? (Tom D.), Sunday, 18 August 2019 19:30 (four years ago) link
modern mafeking is renamed mahikeng ("place of rocks" in setswana) but the batswana people still generally call it mafikeng, which gives a good idea of how the locals say it
english english pron is maff-uh-king with maff the emphasised syllable and uh as just the colourless placeholder vowel
― mark s, Sunday, 18 August 2019 19:30 (four years ago) link
... what mark said.
― Boulez, vous couchez avec moi? (Tom D.), Sunday, 18 August 2019 19:31 (four years ago) link
Looks like I’ve been mispronouncing “piquant” all these years, at least in my head, never say it out loud.
― TS: “8:05” vs. “905” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 18 August 2019 19:32 (four years ago) link
http://www.blogissues.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/10/schwa_world_operations_manual.jpg
― mark s, Sunday, 18 August 2019 19:34 (four years ago) link
Pick-wannt?
― michael schenker group is no laughing matter (Matt #2), Sunday, 18 August 2019 19:39 (four years ago) link
Peek-want
― TS: “8:05” vs. “905” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 18 August 2019 19:48 (four years ago) link
pee-kont for me
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Sunday, 18 August 2019 20:37 (four years ago) link
Think mark is right about the schwa in the second syllable.
― TS: “8:05” vs. “905” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 18 August 2019 20:53 (four years ago) link
I lived on Mafeking Street for a while, and more than one taxi driver thought I was taking the piss and refused to drive me there.
― emil.y, Sunday, 18 August 2019 20:58 (four years ago) link
How to say the 'o' In 'cognac'?
― The Ballad of Mel Cooley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 15 March 2021 22:58 (three years ago) link
I use long "o" as in blow, but I think I've heard people say it like "aw."
― nickn, Monday, 15 March 2021 23:00 (three years ago) link
I can't image either way would get you snickered at in a high-end liquor store.
― nickn, Monday, 15 March 2021 23:02 (three years ago) link
I've only ever heard "aw" I think?
― Woke For Luck (Tom D.), Monday, 15 March 2021 23:04 (three years ago) link
cone-yack is the other one
― himpathy with the devil (jim in vancouver), Monday, 15 March 2021 23:06 (three years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/je6fQzl.jpg
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 16 March 2021 01:09 (three years ago) link
What? It’s a short ‘o’. No one says Cone-yack surely?
― Party With A Jagger Ban (dog latin), Tuesday, 16 March 2021 01:18 (three years ago) link
In the US cone-yack is common.
― nickn, Tuesday, 16 March 2021 01:23 (three years ago) link
Like the ou in cough
― Marry and Neghim (darraghmac), Tuesday, 16 March 2021 01:37 (three years ago) link
As a provincial American, I've often heard it pronounced cone-yack. As a person who tries, with varying success, to figure out how French people would say a word in French, I lean more toward cun-yack. But as a provincial American who most often converses with other provincial Americans, I will lapse into cone-yack as often as not.
― Judge Roi Behan (Aimless), Tuesday, 16 March 2021 01:37 (three years ago) link
Whats with yack?
Its guhnak
― Marry and Neghim (darraghmac), Tuesday, 16 March 2021 01:38 (three years ago) link
As a person who tries, with varying success, to figure out how French people would say a word in French, I lean more toward cun-yack.
Here you go:
https://forvo.com/word/cognac/#fr
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 16 March 2021 01:40 (three years ago) link
Ha, I went to Forvo after I posted. I pronounce it mostly like the English speaker TopQuark, although maybe I have been saying something like Khan-yak or Kayn(e)-ak. I started thinking about this because I got hit with a cone-yack today.
― The Ballad of Mel Cooley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 16 March 2021 02:16 (three years ago) link
And I just now enjoyed listening to the way this borrowed word is pronounced by speakers of different languages.
― The Ballad of Mel Cooley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 16 March 2021 02:23 (three years ago) link
Just noticed Forvo has the pronunciation written out as well. For that sound it has ɒ, the open back rounded vowel: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_back_rounded_vowel
― The Ballad of Mel Cooley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 16 March 2021 02:28 (three years ago) link
Whereas for French it has the neighboring ɔ sound: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-mid_back_rounded_vowel
― The Ballad of Mel Cooley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 16 March 2021 02:34 (three years ago) link