she also has this thing of introducing her guests with their CVs or a rundown of what they're there to talk about -- and when they come on, she asks whether the facts in her intro were correct. they always are.
― battlestar elastica (get bent), Thursday, 19 March 2009 22:14 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah i watch olbermann and maddow almost every night but olbermann is like the daily show for me, pure entertainment, rarely enriching for the mind except for maaybe 'still bushed' but i lol a lot when dude does worst persons and w/e, i turn it off when he brings on eugene robinson or the elfish british dude or everyone else but maddow's show brings it almost every night both in terms of her personal opinion being enlightening and shit that she straight up teaches you
― the name's ban. suggest ban (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 19 March 2009 22:18 (fifteen years ago) link
He brings on Oxbow's Eugene Robinson??!!?
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 19 March 2009 22:19 (fifteen years ago) link
tryhttp://thoughtmerchant.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/eugene-robinson.jpg
― the name's ban. suggest ban (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 19 March 2009 22:20 (fifteen years ago) link
Eugene Robinson sweats boringness from his pores.
― The Screaming Lobster of Challops (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 March 2009 22:20 (fifteen years ago) link
Too bad. The "real" Eugene Robinson is a bad ass.
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 19 March 2009 22:21 (fifteen years ago) link
now that would be some good tv
― battlestar elastica (get bent), Thursday, 19 March 2009 22:22 (fifteen years ago) link
olbermann's guests have gotten really awful lately. robinson is boring, elfish brit is boring, howard fineman is boring and a hack, so is the woman w/ the harry potter glasses that he brings on. i like to look at chris hughes from the nation and he brings it sometimes but jonathan turley the gw law professor is his best guest by miles
― the name's ban. suggest ban (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 19 March 2009 22:23 (fifteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF, Thursday, March 19, 2009 10:19 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
that WOULD be interesting.
― be on the treadmill - uh! - like OK GO (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 19 March 2009 22:24 (fifteen years ago) link
oh and when he brings on christian finnegan i want to break my tv
― the name's ban. suggest ban (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 19 March 2009 22:25 (fifteen years ago) link
I just want to focus how improved all Cable News shows would be if Eugene Robinson was on them for a second. Let's just take a moment.
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 19 March 2009 22:27 (fifteen years ago) link
http://sfist.com/attachments/SFist_Brock/eugene%20robinson.jpg
― battlestar elastica (get bent), Thursday, 19 March 2009 22:31 (fifteen years ago) link
"i'm outraged at the AIG bonuses!"
http://media.sfweekly.com/the-sheltered-hipster-s-guide-to-getting-the-slim-jimmy.134216.51.jpg
― battlestar elastica (get bent), Thursday, 19 March 2009 22:32 (fifteen years ago) link
shep @ fox and friends. that is HILARIOUS. he is def on a different planet. brilliant. it just gets painfully awkward yet he is completely unfazed by this. i was just watching studio b & he is so hyped about blago going on the radio today, doubtless will spend plenty of time on the 7pm show mocking him.
doocy IMHO is pretty awful, not that he has anything that bad to say, but that's what drives me up the wall - it's the same dumb talking points except he's THAT GUY in the bar who thinks he's best friends with everyone and just won't settle down.
ok, this:
― we are here to celebrate, worship and adore (daria-g), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 20:43 (fifteen years ago) link
he's a nobody with a crappy show that airs when most people with jobs are asleep, but he's fucking dead meat of he ever tries to show his face north of the border.
one of his sidekicks has already had to cancel an appearance at a comedy club in Edmonton.
― The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 20:55 (fifteen years ago) link
of=if. rage induced misspelling.
He mocked our military and our Mounties, and incited outrage among our highest-ranking politicians, but Greg Gutfeld couldn't muster the guts on Monday to tell us himself that he's sorry.
this is a hardbody lede
― Hoos Passansteeno (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 20:58 (fifteen years ago) link
ppl oughta rethink their idea that o'reilly is the ok thinking man's version of this, considering the creepy stalker hit-job shit he pulled on amanda terkel, among other people
― laying | (goole), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 21:00 (fifteen years ago) link
ya - people are seriously pissed off. Mounties are fine - but mocking our troops when 4 had *just* died in *the* most dangerous area of Afghanistan is... well... words fail.
xpost
― The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 21:01 (fifteen years ago) link
Doocy.
― Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 25 March 2009 21:02 (fifteen years ago) link
Thermo, I don't know that most of America has even heard of this guy
― the call of the taint (HI DERE), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 21:09 (fifteen years ago) link
goddam so many hateable cretins on one channel, it's almost amazing. i detest Beck, O'Reilley, Huckabee and Wallace, each for his own special brand of ridiculousness. but the real motherfucker here is Hannity - I think he is dumber and definitely more humorless than the rest.
OTOH Shep Smith is a total bro.
― now is the time to winterize your manscape (will), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 21:10 (fifteen years ago) link
hannity is not much of a deep thinker, right? will shamelessly tell all kinds of lies on his show. but it's a little sad without colmes IMHO, he's really trying too hard now with the total over-the-top hyperbole about obama administration. i don't know how he'll cope now that they have beck to turn the fear meter up to 11.
i don't hate any of them, though, it's more of.. how can you SAY those things when you know they are not true? you're basically insulting and mistreating your own audience by not bothering to square your statements with facts and reality. it applies equally, though.. doesn't help the liberal side to tell them only what they want to hear.
i think i get angrier at the folks who are supposed to be liberals and either don't fight back effectively, or cede half the argument in the name of being polite and getting along..
― we are here to celebrate, worship and adore (daria-g), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 21:32 (fifteen years ago) link
that seems like a 'sane adult in the presence of a sociopath' problem and not necessarily a political one
― laying | (goole), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 21:34 (fifteen years ago) link
ok glenn beck just put on a pair of blue latex gloves and said "this is the dumbest damn show on air!" then he wrapped up a dead fish in newspaper w/pictures of obama & other newsmakers on it, while doing some goofy voices about how.. i dunno, this is what we're giving the taxpayers
epic
― we are here to celebrate, worship and adore (daria-g), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 21:38 (fifteen years ago) link
Clearly the new business model at FOX is "look at all the crazy people we bring you, how can you NOT watch us?!" Even more now than in recent years. They aren't being as overtly partisan anymore, instead they're just piping hallucinogens in through the a/c in the studios.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 21:41 (fifteen years ago) link
lol quite possibly
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 25 March 2009 21:44 (fifteen years ago) link
I wouldn't be surprised if they were counting on the spectacle to pay the bills.
― Mordy, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 21:44 (fifteen years ago) link
How could it not be Hannity? I see RED at a mere glimpse of his taut, smug assface, looking at you with a supercilious grin that says: I am 100% douchebag and, even though I misconstrue or disregard even the simplest of facts, I am somehow massively influential. It doesn't help that my mom likes him. People say this suggest this kind of thing figuratively, but I literally would not mind watching him being tortured to death.
― 2 ears + 1 ❤ (Pillbox), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 21:57 (fifteen years ago) link
http://i404.photobucket.com/albums/pp127/deanofsomething/becks.jpg
― we are here to celebrate, worship and adore (daria-g), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 22:00 (fifteen years ago) link
Glenn Beck's show is like a weird high-concept homage to The Colbert Report, no lie.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 22:03 (fifteen years ago) link
I've been loling all week at his fear-mongering over Obama's sinister designs of socialist-fascism.
― 2 ears + 1 ❤ (Pillbox), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 22:06 (fifteen years ago) link
Schadenfreude for these windbags comes all too easily. There's really no sport in picking out all of the factual inconsistencies of their O_o rants, but the socialist/fascist thing demonstrates that they lack even the simplest understanding of political science.
― 2 ears + 1 ❤ (Pillbox), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 22:13 (fifteen years ago) link
The other day Geraldo referred to Hillary as "First Lady Hillary Clinton" re: her State Dept. visit to Mexico. I didn't watch long enough to see if it was intentional, but it wouldn't surprise me.
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 22:14 (fifteen years ago) link
ok, i think shep is kind of insane, there is def nobody else like him - somehow i find him snarking about dumb celebrity news stories & being sort of rude to people is still funny and appealing, whereas i cannot stand to watch 0lbermann at all. still LOLing over the fox & friends clip where kilmeade is finally like "OK have you ever felt more awkward on a set???" FTW
oh, also - bret baier is the dude at 6pm who took over for brit hume, not included in the poll, but he might be a robot.
― we are here to celebrate, worship and adore (daria-g), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 22:19 (fifteen years ago) link
geraldo is harmless IMHO
the socialist/fascist thing demonstrates that they lack even the simplest understanding of political science
I wouldn't mind the channel's political leanings if they actually had conservative hosts on there who were intellectually thorough with their positions and how they crafted the themes of the shows. Instead, they're all just shallow, knee-jerk egotists who play to base fears. (This goes for Lou Dobbs on CNN and Olbermann on MSNBC, too.)
Why can't every host on a political forum show be more like Rachel Maddow, huh?
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 22:21 (fifteen years ago) link
I wouldn't call Maddow an intellectual, just well-prepared.
― The Screaming Lobster of Challops (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 22:21 (fifteen years ago) link
I get the feeling with Maddow that if her bosses would let her she'd spend an hour each night getting down to the nuts and bolts of how this or that is done in Washington and why. Nerd television doesn't get viewers, though.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 22:23 (fifteen years ago) link
oh, god, lou dobbs. that guy really does make me angry. the xenophobic fearmongering.. i can't believe CNN puts that on the air. same for nancy grace who strikes me as particularly.. undemocratic and unamerican, basically, who cares about the law when she can just decide for herself that every suspect is guilty & then make tons of money leading the witch hunt herself. i despise that woman.
i shouldn't be rude about bret baier though, he is pretty straightforward and his show isn't actually about him and his personality instead of the news itself, which is a good thing.
― we are here to celebrate, worship and adore (daria-g), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 22:25 (fifteen years ago) link
This is what you have in mind (and I agree it's riveting TV, even for non-nerds):
― The Screaming Lobster of Challops (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 22:26 (fifteen years ago) link
i cannot get over the shep/gretchen carlson clip that J0rdan posted upthread. shep is awful!
at the end after he's made everyone completely uncomfortable, kilmeade takes one last shot at making nice & says "isn't this like regis and kathy lee?" and shep says "isn't this like that offline after the show show you did with that guy who wasn't funny?" doocy: "how unfunny was that?" shep: "that was stupid, i should never let him back in here again, or me, for that matter." kilmeade and doocy are basically stunned at this point, and kilmeade wraps it up by mentioning whatever internet venture shep was there to talk about - "he can't wait, and.. he doesn't watch us." because of course shep told them that he doesn't even watch their show.
sorry to go on, but IMHO insulting people to their faces is def an art form & i am learning something here. i almost feel bad for doocy/kilmeade/carlson but i have seen enough of that show that.. not really.
― we are here to celebrate, worship and adore (daria-g), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 22:52 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah higher ups at fox shouldn't have let those three get railroaded like that, but still lols 4 lyfe
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 25 March 2009 22:58 (fifteen years ago) link
this is fascinating. clearly shep doesn't take o'reilly's word for it, and raises point after point where o'reilly's story on how jackson's comments got out, doesn't add up. he's very precise about it. you don't see this kind of interview much any more, sadly, but it's so interesting that he's skeptical about every single part of the story & extra skeptical when o'reilly tries to be flattering. wow, actual journalism on cable news.
― we are here to celebrate, worship and adore (daria-g), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 23:00 (fifteen years ago) link
i guess shep is allowed to insult anyone he wants :) thing is, i have seen enough segments from "fox & friends" to know that.. they're really irresponsible, as if being a lighthearted & painfully bright and cheerful morning show makes it OK to play fast and loose with the facts & put a right wing spin on most everything.
― we are here to celebrate, worship and adore (daria-g), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 23:01 (fifteen years ago) link
the o'reilly interview here, though, if i did broadcast journalism i'd be taking notes. you know how touchy/angry/defensive o'reilly gets when questioned & here he basically gets interrogated about this but it's done so carefully he really has no way to get out of it. o'reilly ends up looking pretty bad IMHO.
― we are here to celebrate, worship and adore (daria-g), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 23:11 (fifteen years ago) link
If FOX News didn't exist, I find it hard to believe Steve Doocy and Gretchen Carlson could find a job anywhere. They're completely useless in every capacity. Kilmeade is almost in the same boat, but occasionally redeems himself by doing something that's actually funny (and not just funny by mistake).
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 23:11 (fifteen years ago) link
johnny otm
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 25 March 2009 23:13 (fifteen years ago) link
oh shit...i just fucking realized that that's GRETCHEN CARLSON from MN who was Ms America holy crap, i forgot she even existed, but damn everyone acted like it was such a big deal when she won.
― stank pony (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 23:14 (fifteen years ago) link
I get the feeling with Gretchen that she doesn't always have a clear grasp of the subtleties of Fox News (or Republican) talking points. So she'll just get the basic thrust (we don't like liberals) and then take them to some extreme, like - and I don't remember the specific words but - talking trash about Ted Kennedy being an enemy combatant and the White House representative at the time being like, "Well, we don't like him. But no, he's not actually a terrorist." Like she's kinda unclear about the distinction. I think it's kinda cute. Like the uncool/slower kid running with the ball with lots of enthusiasm, even if they don't really understand the sport.
― Mordy, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 23:14 (fifteen years ago) link