Ongoing U.S Police Brutality and Corruption Discussion Thread

my dad ran a police academy in SE missouri so he has definitely sided with the police on this one

xxp yeah, I really want to have a conversation with him about it, but at a time when he's not surrounded by other cops. Several years ago his force lost an officer in a shooting -- the only one in the history of the force -- so it's only strengthened his "us" v. "them" feelings.

Is "them" just criminals in general?

"them" = "not cops, especially brown not-cops"

If that's true, then he's holding that brush ("I feel like I'm being painted with a very broad brush")

you will never pierce dude's veil of self-righteousness, is my cynical guess

DJP has it right. It goes without saying that the community where he is chief is about 80% white. (Compared to my city, which is about 40% white.)

interesting.

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2014/12/at_eric_garner_protests_some_whites_behaving_badly.php?page=2

the (basically always white) guys / occasionally women at protests looking to actively agitate against passersby and engage the cops with preemptive hostility are the worst. you want to shake them and say 'you're not helping'.

i saw one of those in dc friday--turned out to be an undercover.

~~plainclothes~~ and "in character" if you prefer

And theres that too yes

whaaaaaaaaaat

that's what they do, SOP

http://www.wmur.com/news/police-man-arrested-after-shooting-bb-gun-at-officers/28219706

misleading URL

police man

if this war gonna start ur gonna need more than a bb gun

that's what they do, SOP

^^^yup

whaaaaaaaaaat

― $0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, December 10, 2014 5:53 AM (15 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i actually thought this was sarcasm at first--DC sends undercovers into any and all developing protest groups within the city. some friends outed one & sued her.

http://wamu.org/news/13/08/28/dc_police_defend_use_of_undercover_police_officer_to_infiltrate_labor_group

oh it's not just DC

oh for sure, i just mean i've seen it firsthand here.

...'any and all' is kind of overkill, but new groups making a splash get undercovers quickly. they used to be easy to pick out ("spot the crew cut"), but they're getting better. the dude i saw last fri looked like he belonged, it was his behavior that tipped me off.

was he like "hey man do you have any connections to the more radical and violent elements of this protest movement, and/or do you want to help me get everyone to riot?"

I was sincerely shocked by this. It feels like something out of Brooklyn 99.

this has been SOP for decades - since at least the 60s - and I wouldn't be at all surprised if it dates back further than that to the big labor struggles of the early 20th century

Panthers were riddled with agent provocateurs etc.

2004 GOP Convention: The New York Times has also reported on two occasions that the police videotaped and infiltrated protests, as well as acting as agents provocateurs during the protests.

plainclothes cops infiltrating a large protest group to monitor it is one thing and somewhat understandable, but then actively agitating false flag style to discredit it is so loathsome

we were relatively scattered along the block--waiting for enough of our folks to arrive to block the intersection. i headed over to one corner where a small crowd was gathering and saw a guy i thought was a livestreamer i knew. when i said 'hey whats up' and he turned to me i realized he was someone else. guy i'd never seen before. within a few minutes i noticed he was making a concerted effort to ask the names of everyone arriving in the group, without giving his own name. between learning people's names he was hollering at no one in particular LET'S SHUT THIS SHIT DOWWWWN. WHAT ARE WE WAITING FOR, LET'S TAKE THE STREET.

we weren't ready. we didn't have a large enough crowd. LET'S FUCK UP THIS TRAFFIC GUYS COME ON

after another 15 minutes or so the crowd had grown enough to take the intersection. we did a die in. i stood up, and he was gone. got names, made transparently bad suggestions very loudly, and disappeared once we actually got moving--that smelled like cop to me.

he was also a larger middle aged white guy which, tbqh, you don't see very many of at a rush hour blockade against police brutality on a weekday.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO

it's not science fiction, it's history

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandon_Darby

by "history" I mean of course "stuff that really happened and is still really happening today"

plainclothes cops infiltrating a large protest group to monitor it is one thing and somewhat understandable, but then actively agitating false flag style to discredit it is so loathsome

― anonanon, Wednesday, December 10, 2014 2:03 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah, this is what got me.

btw even the fuckin darbyrat thinks the garner decision was incomprehensible

clear video evidence really does preempt reflexive reactionary handwaving and excuse making

unless you are a staten island grand jury member apparently

http://i.imgur.com/q98KASr.jpg

http://jerriblank.com/tammi110.jpg
"anybody know where I can get some big, fat doobies?"

https://twitter.com/notapoliceman

^
dying

best

http://i.imgur.com/tRFa5Tb.png

man idk if I would have the wherewithal to take a picture of a cop pointing a gun at me

yeah that's terrifying.

Is that cop holding his fucking gun sideways?

looks like he's motioning the photographer to back off

Supercops on television are always holding their handguns sideways, too. Life imitates art.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/f8/54/1d/f8541dcb2fcc65bab36077189a010049.jpg

Otm

Somebody is going to get killed if this trajectory holds