rolling "Is This Racist?" thread

none of these thoughts would exist if not for the name.

sry maybe it's foolish to say none of these thoughts would exist abt a game made on earth by white people featuring a war between white and black pieces. none of these thoughts would exist specifically about this game zall.

oh look

this is p interesting actually

it is!

I mean just... waht:

it was evident that players could in many cases choose Black when they had the first move, even if the published game-score indicated that White had moved first.

lol @ the throwing in of a mystical asian. some bewildering semiotic terrain this game.

― difficult listening hour, Monday, November 17, 2014 5:20 PM (42 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/mastermind2.jpg

We had this Mastermind at home when I was young. The cover of the box fascinated me to no end.

i am positive we did this on another thread already (maybe this one) but i guess this is the next line
http://www.le.ac.uk/press/press/landmarkreunion.html

Didn't know that but thanks Forks!

a MP knowing who you are seems like a pretty good humblebrag

― jenny holzer, ilxor (mh), Monday, November 17, 2014 2:00 AM (16 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Not really. It was merely to illustrate that even someone who practically shakes hands for a living - a politician - couldn't bring himself to shake mine, even though we go back a bit. That is how Black Pete is dividing this shameful nation right now.

On the mastermind box, from tvtropes:

The game was originally produced with box-art that seemed to suggest that "masterminds" would pose like James Bond villains and have Dragon Lady girlfriends

good ol' tv tropes

maybe this is just me but when I was a kid I thought they were both masterminds

yeah I had that too and their identity/role was confounding - were these the people I was playing against (then shouldn't there only be one of them?) or were they opponents playing against each other? is that guy supposed to be some evil British colonialist etc

My thought was "there's the male mastermind and the female mastermind and they are both challenging me; CHALLENGE ACCEPTED as soon as I can beat my older brother"

Distinguished-looking Bill Woodward was then the owner of a chain of hairdressing salons

You know, I wasn't that far off.

http://grouchymuffin.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/goodfellas_134pyxurz.jpg

lol @ the throwing in of a mystical asian. some bewildering semiotic terrain this game.

― difficult listening hour, Monday, November 17, 2014 5:20 PM (Yesterday)

isn't othello just a total ripoff of GO tho? not to justify; I am probably staring too much into the fucked up marketer's abyss?

ok skooled by yahoo answers here

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080112054042AAeKRgP

mark s has some classic analysis of the various Mastermind boxes in this old thread - mastermind, the game

"gypsy cab"?

Good catch - apologies for using that phrase

Racism aside, I always thought it was pretty funny how they made a desperate attempt to sex up a game that is obviously quite dry.

It worked cause you guys all remember it! I'd even seen that cover before.

This is from a Danish childrens christmas show that is shown this year, a rerun from 17 years ago:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijPo8-zqoqQ

Sorta fits into the Black Pete discussion. It's also worth mentioning, that the confecture the children are dressed up as used to have a racist nickname. But apparantly, whether or not it is racist is actually up for debate in Denmark. Because, you know, all the - white - people in the clip are just having fun together.

This is a very good essay: 'I Don't Know What To Do With Good White People'

im over a month late but re: the mastermind box, i too thought they were both examples of different kinds of masterminds that one might encounter

*hi-five*

http://www.kfvs12.com/story/28801129/officers-city-officials-resign-after-new-mayor-elected

Mayor Ramsey said the city's attorney, the clerk and the waste water treatment plant supervisor also turned in resignation letters citing "safety concerns."

working for a black woman apparently is unsafe in 2015 missouri. who knew?

Parma Police, a racist bunch of men

I like the "they're not racist, they're a criminal conspiracy!" counter-narrative crawling out from under the usual white supremacist rocks. Here's a wacky idea: maybe both?

For the past couple of weeks, one of my facebook friends (a high school buddy's spouse) has been posting up updates or comments like "they're not racist, they're just BAD POLICE. there are white police shooting black kids, black police shooting black kids, black police shooting white kids. why does everybody have to keep bringing race into this?" I've been biting my tongue pretty hard because she's my friends wife and like, I'm going to be charitable and imagine they are in disagreement about this already and hopefully having fights at home about it, but holy fuck.

black black white white, what are you talking about RACE for?

a rainbow coalition of cops shooting people

There's a small part of me that enjoys the twist on the ol' "there are good black people and then there are n–…." except with cops now.

This cop is so good, I don't even really think of him as a cop

Know something funny? One of my favorite tee-vee shows? NYPD Blue.

That neighborhood isn't bad, but it's a little blue if you know what I mean.

Meant to post this earlier, but there's a housing development in the "rural" fringes of the LA area called Plantation on the Lake. I can just image the meeting when they were deciding on the name.

"What can we do to make this attract a, errrm, paler clientele?

http://plantationonthelake.com/

Guess which "tradition" the headline means:

http://www.knoxnews.com/knoxville/life/cinderella-moment-debutante-balls-strive-to-preserve-tradition-civility_76395622

While there is no application process — the Dogwood Ball is by invitation only — there are at least three criteria young women must meet to be considered: they must be sophomores in college and unmarried. They also must be white. Trent said she does not see a problem with the event being segregated.

“I think it’s beautiful that (the local AKA chapter) has started their own for their girls,” she says.

There are lots and lots of Plantation subdivisions, most of them POAs, unsurprisingly.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Riverstone-Plantation-SubdivisionForsyth-County/107095289319155

http://www.plantationtampahoa.com/outside_home.asp

http://www.siennaplantation.com/

http://i.imgur.com/8B1rFat.jpg

I mean, yeah, talk about a word with a historically racist connotation, but on the other hand it's generic enough where I'll take it over anything named after Jefferson Davis or Nathaniel Bedford Forrest.

It seems like it would be less likely to be used in California, kind of startled me when I drove past the billboard.

the "rural" fringes of the LA area called Plantation on the Lake.

Good Lord, thought you meant Louisiana.

Makes more sense your way, I give you that.

me too, and I sadly kind of figured it was possible xp

ignorance about the historic baggage of "plantation"
vs.
knowing about it and thinking plantations are a beautiful part of the antebellum south, shut your mouth about that slavery thing

^^^ the exact conundrum that grosses me out so much about Lady Antebellum

I always wonder if people are going to assume Louisiana when I type LA (and Canada when I type CA). I should get into the habit of being more explicit on national/international forums.

tbf I assumed Louisiana because I've been to a place that had "plantation" in the name there, but it seems uncommon for California

then again, the place in Louisiana was a former plantation that had slaves

It's cool. I don't think anyone ever thought Randy Newman was singing about Bastrop.

Just seeing LA in context with plantation... No, la ciudad de los angeles was not my first thought.