this season did fuck up the timing of the main arc, but this episode was decently suspenseful, so I'm hoping the finale will be, too.
― horsehoe (horseshoe), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 02:43 (eighteen years ago) link
And yeah, just being more demonstrative, and then they're presumably going to see each other at graduation/parties and during the summer.
― milo z (mlp), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 02:52 (eighteen years ago) link
aw, graduation parties. i just had a burst of nostalgia. it's true, it was a little dramatic, which might have been hedging of bets in case the show doesn't get renewed.
― horsehoe (horseshoe), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 03:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― horseshoe (horseshoe), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 02:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― milo z (mlp), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 02:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― milo z (mlp), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 02:41 (eighteen years ago) link
I sort of think that the end of the episode was Veronica's dream, from the moment Keith shows up alive until the end. it was just so bizarre.
― horseshoe (horseshoe), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 02:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 02:54 (eighteen years ago) link
Meg's parents hired the guy to find Woody when it became apparent that he was involved in her death. Pretty straightforward.
Just a thoroughly satisfying conclusion to a lot of plot arcs, no matter how stupid the Echolls trial happened to be.
― polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 04:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― drone/a/sore (drone/a/sore), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 04:23 (eighteen years ago) link
Does this mean that Duncan's baby has the clap?
― polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 04:46 (eighteen years ago) link
― horseshoe (horseshoe), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 04:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― jeffrey (johnson), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 16:19 (eighteen years ago) link
Too many threads wrapped up too quickly (as though this finale was for the series?!?! re: VM no longer being lock for making the CW schedule next year), which diluted the OMGness of thee BIG REVEAL. But I refuse -- nay, STRONG REFUSE to believe that Keith might have bought it and that the ending "THE MARS ARE GOING TO DELAWARE NYC!!" was a dream, even if the cinematography was washed out like her actual dream sequences in the episode. But (jone) dayam, V's heartbreak at the airport equals ~*tear*~
― c(''c) (Leee), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 16:40 (eighteen years ago) link
― J (Jay), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 17:56 (eighteen years ago) link
I struggle to care what was in Kendall's briefcase, but I just can't. Still, I loved the finale.
― horseshoe (horseshoe), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 17:59 (eighteen years ago) link
What would prevent them from being friends? Little Dick is not his brother's keeper.
― polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 18:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 18:30 (eighteen years ago) link
I'm almost disappointed they didn't kill him, really. It seems like that would be a radical move for a series like this. Parents die, but never ones so integral to the series and so connected to the main character - it would be like having the Cohens suddenly die on the OC.
xp - I didn't think about the public linking teh Guttenberg to the bus (only the kiddie-touching), but there's still something unexplained about that situation. Why did they bail out the crazy guy who attacked Woody's daughter?
― milo z (mlp), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 19:05 (eighteen years ago) link
It didn't work out too well for Eight Simple Rules....
Keith and Wallace are the spiritual core of the show, imo. Killing either of them off (or getting rid of them) would be a huge mistake on RT's part.
― polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 19:22 (eighteen years ago) link
― polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 19:24 (eighteen years ago) link
A few thoughts: 1) Little Dick is now going to be totally on his own, since Kendall's got money, Beav is dead, and Big Dick's MIA. Can Little Dick survive financially or otherwise in that situation? 2) Will Little Dick blame Logan and/or Veronica for Beav's death? 3) Will Logan finally wake up and grow the fuck up? (NOTE: Definitely not counting on this one!)
― J (Jay), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 19:27 (eighteen years ago) link
I thought the finale was terrible, overwrought and ham-fisted where the show is usually cool with moments of genuine weirdness and terror, and far too implausible. It felt like they conveniently rewrote several characters and wrapped up too many loose ends.
"My name is CASSIDY" ugh.
― Sentenza says, You're not digging (witchy), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 21:34 (eighteen years ago) link
I guess I've arrived at a point where I've stopped expecting the show to make any sense or have any real consistency of character.
― polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 21:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 21:40 (eighteen years ago) link
This was the mystery though: WHY was it apparent to Meg's parents Woody was involved in the bus crash? He was never a suspect, except at Mars Investigations, and even then pretty late. And the janitor had been harassing the Goodmans for awhile. So the implication was that the cabal of parents with dead kids that was set up in the first episode knew something we were meant to find out, only... we didn't.
― Sentenza says, You're not digging (witchy), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 21:43 (eighteen years ago) link
The bit with the briefcase - really lazy way to try to create suspense. But I did like the bit in the dream at the beginning where the writers took the piss out of the parallel universe cliche where a much loved character has something horrible happen to them because a seemingly meaningless event never happened ("Wallace Fennell? You didn't hear...?")
― Cressida Breem (neruokruokruokne?), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 21:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sentenza says, You're not digging (witchy), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 21:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 22:05 (eighteen years ago) link
I'm guessing that Lamb either put out an APB for Woody in connection with the bus crash (subtlety never was his strongpoint), or actually called the Megs himself. Reno isn't his jurisdiction, so someone other than he would have to find the guy.
― polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 22:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 22:17 (eighteen years ago) link
― c(''c) (Leee), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 22:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 11 May 2006 00:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― Cressida Breem (neruokruokruokne?), Thursday, 11 May 2006 01:40 (eighteen years ago) link
― milo z (mlp), Thursday, 11 May 2006 02:45 (eighteen years ago) link
I didn't realise it was the finale! wasn't ready for it all to come to a head
so many diff things happening
didn't really like aaron being killed and duncan on a beach (just don't like duncan, really)
beav...
didn't see it coming at all. even thought veronica might be wrong, when she was first calling mac. so many fake outs. what a bad wee guy! thought the "my name is CASSIDY" was fine but it seemed designed to make you feel a bit "sorry" for him or "understand" him or "something" but he was just a bad wee guy, in the end
I don't think I have much more to say about the ep, just now!
however
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what are most of you guys talking about?
the beach duncan was on was one in australia like they managed to make the words on the screen say as we saw him on the beach. don't think we would have been able to see kendall and her briefcase and have the opportunity to wonder what on earth could possibly be in it (I think there's a small chance that there might have been some money in it) if it had been a dream and keith were really dead
this show would not be better, for keith dying
the move to new york looks set, w/ jackie and wallace there and veronica on her way. who else will go w/? keith? logan? v possible. less likely: cliff
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would be a shame and I would miss characters like eli and lamb and cliff and so on. I forget that there are so many characters
yeah, logan's mum could be back and veronica's, of course. someone mentioned weevil's trial for killing thumper--I never really thought he died! thought he was tied up in a toilet somewhere else, like the fpatrick bar. would they have been able to have a telly on in somewhere primed for demolition I don't really think so. the fpatricks, too--doesn't seem like there was any kind of conclusion, there, either
maybe we could have another season, in neptune, and veronica can defer entry to stanford and work a summer and we can have our loose ends tied up and free up weevil and cliff and people to move to new york
― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 11 May 2006 18:25 (eighteen years ago) link
― milo z (mlp), Thursday, 11 May 2006 18:29 (eighteen years ago) link
I went on that tangent because I thought wallace would stay w/ jackie and because of that began thinking stanford was in new york and that it was all ready
I take back all my new york talk
jackie would be no great loss, no
― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 11 May 2006 18:33 (eighteen years ago) link
Not enough wonderment at my forward-thinking brane, possibly because people are hyperlink adverse, so stand in awe of me now:
I bet it was the Beave who sabotaged the bus~
-- Leeeeeeeeee (leeee...), October 9th, 2005 6:19 PM. (link)
― c(''c) (Leee), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:39 (eighteen years ago) link
well done, though!
if thumper was in the stadium, that's a bit weird
― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 11 May 2006 21:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― Cressida Breem (neruokruokruokne?), Thursday, 11 May 2006 22:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 11 May 2006 22:40 (eighteen years ago) link
sorry, again!
― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 11 May 2006 22:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― polyphonic (polyphonic), Thursday, 11 May 2006 22:59 (eighteen years ago) link
Question: It seems pretty obvious that Veronica will be at Hearst College next year and the serial rapist story line will also show up again. Can you give us some other clues about what to look forward to next season? — Jessica
Thomas: The biggest news is that we will be going to a three-mystery-per-season format next year. This way, the mysteries will play uninterrupted by repeats or preemptions. We're hoping this will help us cast guest stars in smaller arcs, allow newbies to jump in easier, and lessen the too-much-going-on complaint we heard in Season 2.
― milo z (mlp), Thursday, 11 May 2006 23:16 (eighteen years ago) link
and yes, they fixed things so that Wallace, Veronica, and Logan will all be in Neptune next year, at the very least. Weevil will probably be in jail--sob!
― horseshoe (horseshoe), Friday, 12 May 2006 05:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Friday, 12 May 2006 06:08 (eighteen years ago) link
with this and studio 60, i really wish i had cable
― cousin larry bundgee (bundgee), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 14:17 (seventeen years ago) link
― svend (svend), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 15:55 (seventeen years ago) link
― milo z (mlp), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 16:00 (seventeen years ago) link