Doctor Who: Classic or Dud?

My copy of The Invasion has animated sequences. Bbcdvd1829, episodes 1 and 4

2:E have maintained that they won't animate anything with <50% footage

also Dan Hall, who comissioned the animations, is gone and 2:E cancelled the still-in-progress ones. (or one? might have just been Underwater Menace)

On the Omnirumour, it's now fairly widely held that Ph1ll1p M0rr1s is a hoarder IF there was any truth in MEW (which may well have been indirectly confirmed by someone here-ish who would know).

I have absolutely no idea what any of this means. /civilian

There's a renowned guy who may have found some lost episodes and is keeping them to himself for the time being to maximize his finacial gain (I think that's what it means).

Basically:

The guy who found Web of Fear and Enemy of the World was also rumoured to have found a MASSIVE number of other missing stories (up to 90). The story of the haul seemed to combine a number of vague stories about finds and since it put them all together became known as the Omnirumour. A VERY large number of well-connected people saw bits of evidence that, when collected, gave real weight to it. The first three of these to have been prepped for release were alleged to have been Marco Polo, Enemy of the World and Web of Fear (MEW) and someone on this very board who may have been 'need to know' made loose confirmatory noises.

Since then the BBC have cancelled more than one event where Marco Polo and/or some other titles were due to be announced. A twitter fight broke out between the finder (Ph1ll1p M0rr1s) and other great finder/professional irritant I4n L3v1n3. Over the course of the months of arguing, M0rr1s has all but confirmed he has more titles (maybe not as big as the Omnirumour says, but sizeable nonetheless) but has given the BBC several opportunities to pay him billions of ££££££££££££ and now is keeping them.

NB the number of caveats and maybes in the above text.

Alternatively, M0rris is running an archival discovery and restoration business, still visits and has operatives searching in dangerous and war-torn locations, and is perfectly within his rights not to publicly announce every aspect of his ongoing affairs to loathsomely entitled people shouting abuse on Twitter.

Yes, that too.

Delicious. Thanks aldo, chap, and sic!

morris is barely intelligible in his write ups (http://www.bleedingcool.com/2014/09/01/philip-morris-vs-steven-moffat-on-doctor-who-goes-public-and-will-anthony-horowitz-take-over-the-show/) and if he was making demands such as "moffatt needs to leave the show" etc, then he's misguided at best.

Social media is a very poor environment for Mr Morris, let's say.

Wow, wonder what's been found. Hope it does get the remastering treatment.
Really hope there is more Troughton to come.
I didn't watch through all the photo reconstruction Hartnells this time round so do hope that some of those appear. The long daleks one would be great but Marco Polo might be cool.
Do wonder what budget there is available for old Dr Who. Is it bound to return on dvd sales or online rentals?

It's widely held that The Feast of Steven can never be recovered as it wasn't sold to foreign territories so the junked BBC copy was the only one. This means Dalek Master Plan can't be completed no matter what else is found.

The iTunes release of Enemy and Web undoubtedly shows a push I to the digital market, but then the sales of those two DVDs are record breakers. This is most likely down to them being available for the first time and the need to own/collect, but they certainly bucked the trend as The Moonbase sales were dreadful. Dan Hall said before Pup Ltd lost the BBCWW contract that sales were dropping year on year and there was barely enough profit in extras-packed releases and/or animations to make them viable any more which is why they capped them at titles with the majority of episodes remaining.

I'd been wondering why the DVD editions of Enemy and Web were so light on extras compared to pretty much every other Who DVD (I'd assumed it was some kind of contractual thing with the guy who uncovered them)

Rush-release must have been part of it as well, to ride the wave of anniversary.

Most/all of the people associated with the PUp Ltd era releases, including the Restoration Team (confirmed by St3v3 R0b3rts), were told their services wouldn't be required in the future which, for example, is why the cover format is different on Enemy and Web. It's all but confirmed there's an Underwater Menace ready to go that they completed before being cut off and less strong rumours there are 'proper' release of Enemy and Web in work that BBCWW 'might' buy.

http://doctorwhopenguin.tumblr.com/

They're fantastic!

enjoying the Horror Channel's all-over-the-place run at old-Who. I've always felt a bit paralysed by choice when wanting to watch it, so I enjoy opening the tivo every few days and having the decision made for me. Logopolis, Kinda, Tomb of the Cybermen, Masque of Mandragora, Androids of Tara, Keeper of Traken. Ambient background for cooking or late-evening kitchen tidying.

Nearly all of the commentaries for the classic Who DVDs were recorded at my old workplace. It was so cool to walk into the reception and see Phillip Hinchcliffe, William Russell or Terrance Dicks.

Hey guys, maybe one of you would be able to help me identify what I think was a Doctor Who episode I saw when I was a child. I don't have much to go on. All I remember is some people in an underground cave or mine. They get shot with some kind of ray gun and we are left looking at their melted remains, basically a pile of molten, bubbling, nacho cheese mess on the floor. I could be wrong about the cave, but if there weren't people reduced to a melted puddle on the floor, then I must be thinking about a different tv show. Just watched Caves of Androzani. Had the mines. Didn't have melting.

I watched it in the early 1980s, so it's likely that it would have been Peter Davison but who knows, it could have been a rerun of an earlier episode.

I'm pretty sure that is part one of 'Earthshock'

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x24fk0d_doctor-who-earthshock-1-4_shortfilms

if I remember right the following three parts don't feature people being melted with ray guns but do feature Beryl Reid playing an ass-kicking gun-toting starship captain

That's it! Thank you.

That story rules once you resign yourself to the fact that someone thought endless shots of six Cybermen marching down a corridor would be menacing

All I remember is some people in an underground cave or mine.

It's a good thing you added other details because this applies to virtually every serial ever.

are there enough people on ilx who would vote in a original series (ie 1963-89) doctor who story ballot poll to make such a thing worthwhile? tbh I'm guessing probably not, and you would most likely get about 7 or 8 ballots, which I don't think would be enough, but I wanted to see what level of interest there is.

doubt it, would vote obv

I would vote but my ballot would probably have like 4 stories on it.

obv I would do this

And me.

+1

As long as you call it Marco Pol(l)o

LogoPOLLis or gtfo

or maybe The Krower of Poll

I would do this.

The Greatest Poll in the Galaxy? obv you would need to record yourself doing the opening rap.

I would vote BUT so many stories would lead to a very split vote

I've made an executive decision, if I actually do this roll out thread will be titled 'reverse the POLLarity of the neutron flow', pls bear in mind if you are committing yourself xp

I heard it was Davros + the Master.

― Matt DC, Tuesday, November 27, 2007 4:37 PM

IN BED

― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, November 27, 2007 4:38 PM

guys, no

― HI DERE, Tuesday, November 27, 2007 4:49 PM

I would vote BUT so many stories would lead to a very split vote

yeah I agree, which is why I was thinking it would only be worth doing if a fair number of ppl would send ballots, otherwise most of the top 40 (or whatever) would be stories that got one vote each. there does seem to be more interest than I'd thought though, and there are a few more posters who might vote as well (cosmic slop? aldo? snoball? chap?)

don't want it to seem like I'm pestering people to commit to taking part btw, just wanted to get a sense if it was worth asking for ballots

Let's start arguing now.

Shada: Y/N?

Trial Of A Timelord: one story or four? (Or five?)

An Unearthly Child is a ONE EPISODE STORY. But are the next three "The Tribe Of Gum" or "100,000 BC"?

come on, no one's voting for the next three.

I like the idea of a ballot made up entirely of, say, Shada, A Fix with Sontarans, Dimensions in Time, Search Out Space, those adverts for Life Insurance Tom Baker did 'in character' etc

The Elite ad
Those 90s VHS-only things featuring Sontarans and actors from Who, but nobody mentions Dr Who
THE MOVIE
The unused stories commissioned by Andrew Cartmel from well known sci-fi authors
Doctor Eyes

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Stranger_(video_series)

this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FMy5Fc2ZII

(that's The Curse Of Fenric being reenacted by some 14 years old in 1993, for anyone who hasn't already seen it)

parts 2 + 4 are also on youtube, but part 1 has apparently been blocked on the instruction of BBC Worldwide? spoilsports

(since you asked, yes, I'll vote.)

Prime Computer ads ftw.

I'd vote!