itt: consternation and wailing about Zach Snyder's upcoming SUPERMAN/BATMAN film/sequel to MAN OF STEEL -- official title: BATMAN V SUPERMAN: DAWN OF JUSTICE

lol

tbh if this movie bombs that will be basically what happens to those characters, while ben affleck runs around screaming "call 911! oh jeez!"

stupid question maybe but is this going to have Superman *fighting* Batman?! or have i misunderstood.

― piscesx, Thursday, October 30, 2014 8:08 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

it seems to be heavily inspired by The Dark Knight Returns so yeah prob

or yeah, what da croupier said

It's much better when they're pals:

http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080311020656/marvel_dc/images/5/56/World%27s_Finest_Vol_1_172.jpg

http://emtoast.com/wp-content/uploads/batman_superman.jpg

One of my pet hates in superhero comics was the cover art depiction of superheroes fighting each other. It's supposed to make you want to buy it because you're wondering "why are these two heroes fighting?", but I thought it made them look like pathetic and petty. They rarely came up with good reasons for them to fight.

But some of these covers are hilarious. Quite a good article by Ayo.
http://comixcube.com/2012/06/17/the-superhero-genre-will-never-attain-the-thematic-purity-or-unaffected-honesty-of-1950s-70s-jimmy-olsen-stories/

I think the "who would win" aspect drives the comics in a lot of ways. I remember some articles talking about X-Men being more of a crazy wrestling match than a exploration of the mutant race idea.

Ian McKellen once said in an interview "Marvel tells me..." (I might be imagining it but I think he sounded sceptical) that X-Men appealed a lot to outsiders like racial minorities and gay people. I was feeling cynical about that but maybe it is true?

the big battle is MECHA-BAT trying to beat the tar out of Superman like the end of dkr. also possible that happens earlier and they fight the real enemy in the end.

and I just realised Marvel are kinda doing this first with the Iron Man Hulk fight in Age of Ultron

they win again!

Well, the heroes fighting the Hulk is pretty central to the Avengers mythos. Wasn't there an inter-hero fight scene in Avengers Assemble? Can't remember a thing of that film, other than Hulk punching out Thor later on and unprovoked, and Hawkeye shooting down an helicarrier with an arrow.

Oh, and Shawarma!

well it's more the idea of a weaker character powering up to slug it out with the big guy one on one

Gene Hackman's Luthor certainly wasn't, but every other Luther has been doing heavy punching in armor for decades now.

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t189/mainecomicguy/bills/lexluthor.jpg

Yeah, it was the old-school science dude Lex Luthor who had the armor, then they rebooted everything in 1986, and Lex became a Kingpin-inspired shady businessman/puppetmaster, who didn't do any punching... IIRC the armor didn't made a comeback until the late 90s? Anyway, I think puppetmastering is still mostly his thing in the comics, not going straight against Supes.

interesting

We know there’s a Wonder Woman movie coming in 2017. We know it will star Gal Gadot in the lead, and she also appears in Batman Vs Superman: Dawn Of Justice.

But as of this date, we presumed it would be set in the modern day. Well, why wouldn’t we?

It’s not. I have been informed by those who have seen the greenlit treatment that the film will spends the first half on Paradise Island with warring Amazon factions vying for control.

An arrival of a man on the island changes that status quo, as he asks the Amazons for help. Not necessarily Steve Trevor either…

Because when Wonder Woman joins him on his return to the world of Man, we all discover that it is the 1920s. And the film will then show Diana exploring that world – a world where women have only just got the vote – from her… unique perspective.

A planned sequel would then take place during World War II in the thirties and forties. This of course was the period that the seventies TV show began in, before shifting to the then-modern day.

And a threequel would then take place in the modern day, with the Justice League Of America.

So. Not the Wonder Woman we were expecting. But the period-set Captain America; The First Avenger didn’t do too badly, did it?

That actually sounds potentially quite good and interesting.

Speaking as someone who knows and cares very little about WW as a character.

I will quite literally eat my hat on the day that Wonder Woman 3 is released in theaters.

so the plan is to have wonder woman in the present in bats vs supes and justice league but then wait until the mid-2020s to have her in her own movie set in the present day? that seems to make very little sense, so i'm assuming it must be true given dc's track record.

i will say if dc is genuinely going to release a movie starring a female superhero 50% on paradise island, 50% in the 1920s, dealing with suffragette culture, that would be DAMN admirable, because it also sounds resolutely uncommercial.

i don't think a movie about a female superhero is commercial suicide, to be clear. two of the biggest successes this year were lucy and maleficent. but this plot...i dunno

shouldn't they confirm people enjoy wonder woman movies before they make DIANA RISING?

admittedly captain america 1 was not dissimilar in concept but that was set in a war, and was the most "prequel to the avengers" movie of the movies that came out before the avengers. between batsupes and justice league this just sounds like a tangent

i wonder if there's some genuine menace she's going to face or just some edward g robinson type with a tommy gun saying "get back in the kitchen, dame!"

Shouldn't they confirm that people enjoy a movie featuring a multitude of basically untested characters before they dedicate hundreds of millions of dollars to making movies for all of those characters?

The clear frontrunner for WW antagonist:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11114/111143954/3752668-8998578475-01.jp.jpg

mustache trap rides $1

cheetah's always been the go-to

chester?

I would guess cheetah or ares yeah

ares vs wonder woman is a bit explicitly gamergate, no?

wonder woman vs ethics in games journalism

I actually think this sounds like it could do way better than a standard modern day Wonder Woman, which could easier get lost among the more successful superheroes. Play up the epic fantasy part (like Thor and all the non-superhero fantasy blockbusters) and the 20s period detail (like all the popular stylish period dramas).
I think this might be a winner.

These are always better when they're some setting that's not "the present day with CGI that looks like everything else." Would be REALLY nice if it really became a different genre, rather than different contents filling up the contemporary superhero movie form, but that probably won't happen. Worst case scenario with the period setting is we end up with The Shadow where the design work is all great but the plot and characters are just really badly thought-out and not compelling. Wonder Woman has some great potential if they have a strong handle on what makes her interesting, see to the Lex Luthor discussion above..

i reserve the right to be excited when they announce the creative team but considering the ones that normally get assigned to female-led superhero movies, that the dc cinematic universe is run by david "ask me what i think of she-hulk" s. goyer and zack "ask me if i think" snyder i'm not sure they're going to get one that can handle Sif Meets The Great Gatsby

there's also this potential scenario:

"hey what'd you think of batman v superman?"

"ehhhhh fine i guess"

"excited for us to do justice league in a year???"

"ehhhh i mean i'll probably go"

"wanna watch wonder woman do the charleston a few months in between??"

Goyer is now doing a Krypton-set TV show

http://31.media.tumblr.com/31f3d8a493f0fb49e12622c0fc9d52f9/tumblr_mpqw4l9XoC1qag1wuo2_250.gif

i was just saying my tv needed more dragons and prequels on it

Looking forward to Atlantis and Themyscira and Mars television series. I don't understand why the Arrow and Flash shows are named after just a single citizen within their respective cities. Weird choice, DC.

Flash is a bit catchier than Central City

Along the lines of WWII-era WW and a propos of little else, I've thought for years that Sandman Mystery Theatre would make a really great TV series.

oh man that could be great

where the fuck is martian manhunter is what i'm saying

he's invisible, duh

The next Lego Batman game is the biggest DC thing I'm looking forward to, aside from the Suicide Squad/Cyborg/Aquaman movies(out of perverse curiosity to see what they'd do).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jkbBA27zSs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBRLsBeKCzQ

http://cdn.akamai.steamstatic.com/steam/apps/330860/ss_ff0e3ccefc7fbc154a712e5061d0f8db3809c10f.jpg?t=1415000208

Apparently at least 4 member's of Ostrander/Yale's 80s Suicide Squad are included:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ByyWyO-IAAEsAIK.jpg:large

And the Green Loontern!

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-gdXroaFD6HQ/VDl4Y5S_F_I/AAAAAAAABUo/PJBuZnshwh0/s1600/green-loontern-lego-batman-3-beyond-gotham.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vznzTBvPl4

And extra apostrophes, apparently

goddamnit, duck dodgers

It's WB/DC synchronicity!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGbkQ-ztNzI

Wow, Clancy Brown is one of the voices in this game.

And you get to play as Alfred in the 2nd level.

Also, whereas in Lego Marvel Superheroes you got to rescue Lego Stan Lee, DC had to scramble but came up with a suitable replacement:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10620793_10152431253541596_1262338005850315790_n.jpg?oh=75de60677dd51c09d1d7d8a481725569&oe=54EC8911&__gda__=1424292103_953ddfa2ae51f84c6ca8f37a275f3e8f

Clancy Brown has (essentially) been the animated voice of Lex Luthor for almost twenty years.

xp jim shooter?

Jim Shooter does not have sandy blonde hair and hollywood-tinted glasses.

Try again.