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I think I've ordered up to like 6-8 pairs of shoes at a time to test out. It was a lot of boxes to bring home from work.

Jeff, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 21:06 (eleven years ago)

1:36:52. Way off my goal, but still a PR. I can do better.

Jeff, Saturday, 1 November 2014 15:25 (eleven years ago)

hey man its alway cool to pr

lag∞n, Saturday, 1 November 2014 15:45 (eleven years ago)

and not die!

erry red flag (f. hazel), Saturday, 1 November 2014 19:04 (eleven years ago)

Been jogging intermittently (roughly 9.5 min miles) over the last year and a half or so. On tonight's jog along the canal, I thought to myself, "hey, why not try for a half-marathon?" The furthest I'd gone previously was about 3/4 of that. (I don't jog/run very scientifically.)

Thanks in part to a killer playlist of Aeroplane remixes, I got it done, in a hair over two hours. It's a start. I'm gonna go die now.

Simon H., Thursday, 6 November 2014 02:45 (eleven years ago)

Actually I say that but I don't feel quite as awful as I thought I would.

Simon H., Thursday, 6 November 2014 02:46 (eleven years ago)

Yay, good stuff Simon!

john wahey (NickB), Thursday, 6 November 2014 06:56 (eleven years ago)

Excellent Simon! I am hoping to come in a hair *under* two hours in a half marathon in January. We will see.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Thursday, 6 November 2014 15:02 (eleven years ago)

hey ilx running gang, I did my first 5K last weekend. 28 minutes! I was hoping for 30 so I'm stoked. Started running regularly at the beginning of September.

There's a 10 K in December I'm tempted to do - should I go for it? I have six weeks. I'm currently running 3-4 times a week, usually 5K during the week and 6-8 K on the weekend. The 5 k was a great motivator - but I was surprised how beat-up my body felt afterwards. My ultimate goal is just to keep running regularly, so I'm a bit paranoid about overdoing it or injuring myself.

Brio2, Thursday, 6 November 2014 15:58 (eleven years ago)

yeah theres no need to push it, its super common to get injured when you first start running, and then you cant run any more

lag∞n, Thursday, 6 November 2014 16:03 (eleven years ago)

i say go for it! if you're running up to 8k now, you're going to be able to run 10k without really having to up your training distances at all. i'm guessing the beat-up feeling is just soreness from running faster than you normally do and is pretty normal after a race. a bit of speedwork would help adjust to that, but do ease into it really slowly

john wahey (NickB), Thursday, 6 November 2014 16:11 (eleven years ago)

if you want to keep running regularly then just do that, if you want to run a bunch of races after you first started running enjoy being injured

lag∞n, Thursday, 6 November 2014 16:15 (eleven years ago)

run a race thats next month but ease into it slowly, okey dokey

lag∞n, Thursday, 6 November 2014 16:16 (eleven years ago)

can think of three friends off the top of my head who started running w a race goal in mind who all injured themselves in their races and then stopped running lol

lag∞n, Thursday, 6 November 2014 16:17 (eleven years ago)

another friend who ran a marathon sic months after she ran her first time and is fine but still

lag∞n, Thursday, 6 November 2014 16:18 (eleven years ago)

yeah it's true but 8k to 10k is not a massive jump

john wahey (NickB), Thursday, 6 November 2014 16:19 (eleven years ago)

its not its true

lag∞n, Thursday, 6 November 2014 16:22 (eleven years ago)

but running generally has a really huge insistence of injury especially for new runners so if you want to run realistically its best to focus on learning how to not be injured rather than racing

lag∞n, Thursday, 6 November 2014 16:22 (eleven years ago)

the adrenalized environment of a race is needless to say is also an excellent environment to provoke injury

lag∞n, Thursday, 6 November 2014 16:23 (eleven years ago)

that's fair xp

john wahey (NickB), Thursday, 6 November 2014 16:28 (eleven years ago)

but also kind of boring

john wahey (NickB), Thursday, 6 November 2014 16:28 (eleven years ago)

i'm no good at being patient and only ever learned by doing the wrong thing

john wahey (NickB), Thursday, 6 November 2014 16:29 (eleven years ago)

so maybe don't listen to me

john wahey (NickB), Thursday, 6 November 2014 16:29 (eleven years ago)

give the man some time to work up to an ultra cmon

lag∞n, Thursday, 6 November 2014 16:29 (eleven years ago)

I've signed up for a full marathon in May because I figure six months is a ton of training time and it will give me a good reason to keep active through the winter.

Simon H., Thursday, 6 November 2014 16:33 (eleven years ago)

AWRIGHT!

john wahey (NickB), Thursday, 6 November 2014 16:37 (eleven years ago)

xpost
ha, yeah I think I'll just play it by ear... try upping my distance a little bit on a couple of runs per week and see how I'm feeling in 3 weeks. If I need to hold off until spring, so be it. If I do decide to go for the 10 k, I just really need to make sure I don't overdo it speedwise on race day. it is really amazing how much faster you go during a race without even realizing it. thanks for the advice - i know a 10 K must seem like nothing to you guys.

Brio2, Thursday, 6 November 2014 16:38 (eleven years ago)

i dont think i ran that distance til like over year of running i am bad at running tho lol

lag∞n, Thursday, 6 November 2014 16:40 (eleven years ago)

i know a 10 K must seem like nothing to you guys

no way, 10k is a long effing way to run fast

john wahey (NickB), Thursday, 6 November 2014 16:40 (eleven years ago)

on the other hand ive only ever had one injury

lag∞n, Thursday, 6 November 2014 16:41 (eleven years ago)

I ran 10 K once last month on my own, took about an hour and 15 minutes though and I was really dogging it the final 2-3 k...

Brio2, Thursday, 6 November 2014 16:44 (eleven years ago)

oh, you'll have no probs then!

john wahey (NickB), Thursday, 6 November 2014 16:52 (eleven years ago)

omg u r both incorrigible

lag∞n, Thursday, 6 November 2014 16:53 (eleven years ago)

LOL yes I'm definitely more open to getting talked into this than I am into getting talked out of it

Brio2, Thursday, 6 November 2014 16:55 (eleven years ago)

10K is probably my least favorite distance to race hard. So much pain for such a long time. But I'm with NickB, just go for it, it's not too big of a jump. I wouldn't go all out, but if you just take it at a nice pace a slower than you're 5K, you'll most likely be fine. Or you won't be. Something or nothing will happen.

Jeff, Thursday, 6 November 2014 17:10 (eleven years ago)

lol

lag∞n, Thursday, 6 November 2014 17:11 (eleven years ago)

anyway moving on im wondering if anyone here has experience doing a more holistic race training routine incorporating lifting plyo core etc, ive hear its cool and works and thats generally more how i tend to work out now anyway

lag∞n, Thursday, 6 November 2014 17:14 (eleven years ago)

i have been cheating on u guys w the sw0le thread btw sry

lag∞n, Thursday, 6 November 2014 17:16 (eleven years ago)

I think I'm almost over the crushing disappointment from my half, and have begun to analyze what happened. Here were my splits: 7:33, 7:16, 7:07, 7:17, 7:13, 7:04, 7:17, 7:32, 7:50, 7:24, 7:22, 7:37, 7:28, 0:45. Nothing went horribly wrong, but I just couldn't muster up the pace that I wanted to past mile 8/9, even though I had been hitting it in longer tempo runs leading up to this. I had absolutely no kick at the end of the race, usually I get a burst of energy in the last mile or so, but I was struggling just to keep those splits below 8.

I really thought 1:35 would be the absolute slowest I would run. I still think my fitness is at a level to do that.

Other potential factors: Losing a entire week of training two weeks ago because of sickness. I know I wouldn't have lost much overall fitness, but it definitely zapped my energy level for the week afterwards and caused me to alter all my workouts leading up to the race.

It was also 29 degrees and I essentially ran the first 8 miles of the race into a 20 mph headwind. Not ideal conditions for me.

Regardless, it was a PR by 86 seconds, and the 13th race in a row that I've run a PR. I suppose I should be somewhat content with that.

Jeff, Thursday, 6 November 2014 17:20 (eleven years ago)

xpost I can't lift anything heavy. Ever.

Jeff, Thursday, 6 November 2014 17:21 (eleven years ago)

prob just had a random off day man

lag∞n, Thursday, 6 November 2014 17:21 (eleven years ago)

they say squats/deadlifts/etc are very good for running idk

lag∞n, Thursday, 6 November 2014 17:22 (eleven years ago)

10K is probably my least favorite distance to race hard. So much pain for such a long time

exactly. with a half marathon you always feel like you maybe have a little bit to spare and you're not feeling that you're totally ruining yourself, but with 10k you're pushing right to that line where you're just about keeping your breakfast down

i know nothing about lifting, but anything that works on strengthening the various muscles round your knees is probably a good idea for avoiding injury

john wahey (NickB), Thursday, 6 November 2014 17:25 (eleven years ago)

I very much would like to be doing something more holistic - not necessarily as race training but just for general health - have just started doing some stretching and light lifting aimed at core strength a few times a week. I don't enjoy it at all though - It's a pain in the ass compared to running, but I'm hoping it will get easier once I get to the point where I can just do the exercises without thinking about them so much.

Brio2, Thursday, 6 November 2014 17:26 (eleven years ago)

i know nothing about lifting, but anything that works on strengthening the various muscles round your knees is probably a good idea for avoiding injury

― john wahey (NickB), Thursday, November 6, 2014 12:25 PM (8 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

they say its good for speed endurance everything tho, sounds p cool imo

lag∞n, Thursday, 6 November 2014 17:27 (eleven years ago)

I essentially ran the first 8 miles of the race into a 20 mph headwind

^ there you go (and what a shame it wasn't a tailwind instead)

john wahey (NickB), Thursday, 6 November 2014 17:28 (eleven years ago)

i like squats deadlifts lunges + yoga for core, definitely helps my (short) runs.

mattresslessness, Thursday, 6 November 2014 17:41 (eleven years ago)

yeah when im good abt doing core exercises is so obvs beneficial to the running re posture and stability

lag∞n, Thursday, 6 November 2014 17:45 (eleven years ago)

lots of trail races around here, tempted to do my first next spring. main challenge is a recurring left leg problem, it just sort of stops working a few miles in every time, no pain or cramps or anything, starts turning into floppy unresponsive dead weight, frustrating.

mattresslessness, Thursday, 6 November 2014 17:47 (eleven years ago)

sounds like weird thing. trapped nerve?

john wahey (NickB), Thursday, 6 November 2014 17:55 (eleven years ago)


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