Dr Strange done as found-footage horror film
― kissaroo and Tyler, too (DJP), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 17:18 (nine years ago) link
every marvel character needs a) the emo factor and b) the cool shit they do in action scenes. i'm sure benedict can handle the emo factor but they're going to have to figure out a way for his power to look more interesting than a laser blast from his hand that we're told is a magic laser blast.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 17:23 (nine years ago) link
xp -- that would be awesome! I say that as someone who's never seen a found-footage horror film.
― Pict in a blanket (WilliamC), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 17:29 (nine years ago) link
I haven't seen most of these films but I've always had a feeling that all superhero films have a mandatory love (or lust) interest somewhere, and it often makes an awkward fit.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 17:31 (nine years ago) link
well the good news is that marvel's been pretty good at tapping into why the character's drama and fighting style has sold comics for decades and presenting it cinematically (for comparison, i dunno if anyone involved with green lantern had a clue why he's endured). problem is that we're now getting to B & C level characters who haven't really sold comics for decades with their drama and fighting style. GOTG proved marvel can find and pull out unproven potential but where a shitty superman movie will still make a couple hundred million, a shitty dr strange movie probably wont.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 17:40 (nine years ago) link
at its best the love/lust interest humanizes the character but at its worst it's just tacked on proof that they're straight
― da croupier, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 17:41 (nine years ago) link
I think the only love/lust interest in the Marvel movies so far has been Thor/Jane. I don't count Tony/Pepper flirting.
― Pict in a blanket (WilliamC), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 17:42 (nine years ago) link
uh tony and pepper are the deepest love interests IN the marvel cinematic universe. they're practically a married couple.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 17:43 (nine years ago) link
unless you're defining "love/lust interest" as something inherently negligible
― da croupier, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 17:44 (nine years ago) link
My impression was always that they were attracted to each other, enjoyed the flirting, but ultimately both chose to avoid a luv'n'sex relationship. I just asked my wife and her impression was that they did have a romantic relationship, more implied than explicit.
― Pict in a blanket (WilliamC), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 17:54 (nine years ago) link
At this point, I think any Marvel movie would make at least a couple hundred million, unless it's completely awful. So many people seem aware of their track-record. Like, the trailer will still have 'The studio that brought you Avengers, Cap 2 and GotG', which is pretty good.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 17:55 (nine years ago) link
a "love interest" isn't defined by the exchange of fluids. there's obviously a deep emotional bond between tony and pepper that's also sexually charged and a source for drama in the film. whether they've done the deed is superfluous - she's his primary love/lust interest
― da croupier, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 17:57 (nine years ago) link
obv marvel has a great rep and deservedly so, but whether they can get a golden egg from a true turkey of a film has yet to be tested
― da croupier, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 17:59 (nine years ago) link
make hugh jackman strange and just pretend wolverine doesn't exist
― Steve 'n' Seagulls and Flock of Van Dammes (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 18:04 (nine years ago) link
hugh jackman's already strange
― da croupier, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 18:04 (nine years ago) link
Guardians of the Galaxy - directed by James Gunn of all people - probably has them thinking they can pull off anything right nowWinter Soldier was directed by the guys who brought us fucking You Me and Dupree, Picking cheaper talent hasn't hurt Marvel, yet
xp By Avengers it seemed like Tony/Pepper were explicitly a thing - iirc that's why he joins the mission at her "urging"
― Nhex, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 18:05 (nine years ago) link
hugh jackman is strange when you're a stranger
― Steve 'n' Seagulls and Flock of Van Dammes (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 18:07 (nine years ago) link
I mean even down to having Wolerine film with him just thinking about Jean Grey. I don think I've ever seen a superhero film without something of that sort. Wondering if they'll bother in a Wonder Woman film because I gather people tend to hate her boyfriend.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 18:08 (nine years ago) link
yeah i've acknowledged they're going for cheaper talent (specifically mentioned the russos re cap 2, that by the sequel the hundreds of CGI wranglers at marvel handle the action scenes and you just need someone who can keep actors interesting) - but gunn was a fanboy favorite known for inspiration and invention (the script that got him into hollywood was The Specials, about an absurd superhero team). derrickson makes murky hit-and-miss ghost movies, and his one big budget flick was a huge dud.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 18:08 (nine years ago) link
http://www.hitfix.com/motion-captured/we-live-blog-all-the-details-of-marvels-special-hollywood-event
So far, Cap 3 will be called Captain America: Serpent Society, and Thor 3 is Thor: Ragnarok. Yay?
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 18:26 (nine years ago) link
at its worst it's just tacked on proof that they're straight
Not sure what you're implying about Doctor Stephen ~Strange~ who lives in the West Village with his exotic valet in a house full of exotic objets and had ~adventures~ without ever stepping out the front door.
He has a girlfriend Clea she drops by sometimes.
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 18:30 (nine years ago) link
I think the character and his wacky mystic arts adventures would be best served by unnerving amounts of stillness and quiet to go with the freaky Ditko visuals...
This is v otm and I don't know if marvel's listening but imo their implied choice of which genre to situate this one in offers some cause for hope.
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 18:32 (nine years ago) link
Black Panther, Captain Marvel and Inhumans are go.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 18:32 (nine years ago) link
Avengers: Infinity War. Part one in 2018, two in 2019. So many movies.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 18:35 (nine years ago) link
Get Linklater to do Dr Strange Waking Life style.
― Dokken played here for a Ribfest and people were total assholes (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 18:36 (nine years ago) link
sounds like the civil war gossip is all for naught - i wondered how they'd possibly fit that in AND the inevitable guardians/avengers team-up
― da croupier, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 18:37 (nine years ago) link
Tony and Pepper are dating by the beginning of The Avengers.
― kissaroo and Tyler, too (DJP), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 18:37 (nine years ago) link
Sorry, it was a fakeout. Cap 3 is Captain America: Civil War.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 18:38 (nine years ago) link
well whaddya know, sony may still get spidey up in there
― da croupier, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 18:40 (nine years ago) link
also, given Wolverine's comic book history/representation, any movie that doesn't have him spending half of it pining over an old lover (whether it be Jean, Mariko, Silver Fox, or whomever) doesn't understand the character
― kissaroo and Tyler, too (DJP), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 18:44 (nine years ago) link
so in order (after avengers 2 and ant-man in 2015)
May 2016: Captain America - Civil WarNovember 2016: Dr StrangeMay 2017: Guardians Of The Galaxy 2July 2017: Thor - RagnarokNovember 2017: Black PantherMay 2018: Avengers - Infinity War Part 1July 2018: Captain MarvelNovember 2018: The InhumansMay 2019: Avengers - Infinity War Part 2
― da croupier, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 18:45 (nine years ago) link
okay they're going pretty balls-out here
― kissaroo and Tyler, too (DJP), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 18:46 (nine years ago) link
Jean's not even a plot-relevant character in The Wolverine though - you can't say that for Silver Fox in Origins or Jean in X2. His haunting is from an in-universe decade past! That is pretty out of the ordinary for most action movies, let alone superhero movies
― Nhex, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 18:47 (nine years ago) link
so leaving out all the spidey business, which is the least defined and most likely to be nuked anyway
Feb 2016: DeadpoolMarch 2016: BatSupes: Justice A-Comin'May 2016: Captain America - Civil WarMAy 2016: X-Men ApocalypseAugust 2016: Suicide SquadNovember 2016: Dr Strangemarch 2017: Wolverine II(I)May 2017: Guardians Of The Galaxy 2June 2017: Wonder WomanJuly 2017: Fantastic Four 2July 2017: Thor - RagnarokNovember 2017: Black PantherNovember 2017: Justice League Part 1March 2018: The FlashMay 2018: Avengers - Infinity War Part 1July 2018: Captain MarvelJuly 2018: AquamanNovember 2018: The InhumansApril 2019: ShazamMay 2019: Avengers - Infinity War Part 2June 2019: Justice League 2
With Cyborg and Green Lantern ringing in the next decade
― da croupier, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 18:51 (nine years ago) link
plus there's turtles and jedis and hogwarts alumni and legos and shit
― da croupier, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 18:53 (nine years ago) link
universal also believes they're brewing a "monsterverse"
― da croupier, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 18:54 (nine years ago) link
i would totally be down with a retconning/rethinking of stephen strange as a gay character; the character's a womanizer, just genderflip ithell, get the guy from How To Get Away with Murder; he's got the right look.http://cache4.asset-cache.net/gc/450145620-actor-jack-falahee-of-how-to-get-away-with-gettyimages.jpg%3Fv%3D1%26c%3DIWSAsset%26k%3D2%26d%3DGkZZ8bf5zL1ZiijUmxa7QSYRROvz9bDySMiO3BIMOvhPRLqVwzFNLIIMfwnaqyUH
― Steve 'n' Seagulls and Flock of Van Dammes (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 18:55 (nine years ago) link
presumably fox won't let 2018-2019 go without gambit and/or another x-movie as well
― da croupier, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 18:55 (nine years ago) link
xp http://static.episode39.it/artist/47433.jpg%3Ft%3D1410790107
― Steve 'n' Seagulls and Flock of Van Dammes (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 18:56 (nine years ago) link
here? http://www.google.com/url%3Fsa%3Di%26rct%3Dj%26q%3D%26esrc%3Ds%26source%3Dimages%26cd%3D%26cad%3Drja%26uact%3D8%26ved%3D0CAcQjRw%26url%3Dhttp%3A//www.rottentomatoes.com/celebrity/jack_falahee/%26ei%3DLOdPVJfiIaXIsASs8YLQBA%26psig%3DAFQjCNHg121oDH3HaIHIcjzaB4Rh7HVQGg%26ust%3D1414609008526325
― Steve 'n' Seagulls and Flock of Van Dammes (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 18:58 (nine years ago) link
i give up, gis "jack falahee"
I'd be very surprised if they did Shazam even halfway right. He's one of the most notorious characters for being done badly.
Wondering if that line-up (from all film studios) is a big risk and if they have a plan B? What will they do if the trend loses a large part of its audience?
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 19:00 (nine years ago) link
judging from what happened with sony after amazing spider-man 2 it's clear they can curb things fairly quickly, and only fox has to worry about losing rights if they don't produce - if dc or marvel scales back they only lose face.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 19:02 (nine years ago) link
it's not the first time a genre's been inescapable at the box office
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Western_films_1950%E2%80%9354
― da croupier, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 19:03 (nine years ago) link
who knows maybe in the 2020s the "singing superhero" movie will become a thing
― da croupier, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 19:07 (nine years ago) link
I will be first in line for a Dazzler movie
― kissaroo and Tyler, too (DJP), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 19:09 (nine years ago) link
xpost -- Well then, no WONDER they cast Downey.
https://gs1.wac.edgecastcdn.net/8019B6/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_liaarlupC91qgzg6eo1_500.gif
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 19:09 (nine years ago) link
Lila Cheney cameo in GOTG2 sets up the musical onslaught
btw "Musical Onslaught" is the Big Bad of these movies
― kissaroo and Tyler, too (DJP), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 19:11 (nine years ago) link
just scrolling down "1950" in that wiki link puts all this crap into context
― da croupier, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 19:14 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jt52nJWik4A
― The Glue Between My Bits (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 19:15 (nine years ago) link