Amazon Kindle (ebook thingy)

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Plenty of less technically adept people who own a reader but don't know what it's called, probably, or saw the question and didn't know what it was.

Spirit of Match Game '76 (silby), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 15:40 (eleven years ago)

four months pass...

anyone else had this problem? seen a book i'd like, cries in the desert by john gatt, as recommended over on s&d: True Crime! books but it isn't available as an ebook in the uk. i've seen it on amazon.com as an ebook but can't purchase it as i'm uk based. is there anything i can do? could i get an american to set up an account and have it mailed to my kindle email even though it's registered in the uk? or would i need to get someone to buy it and crack the drm so i can use it?

NI, Sunday, 1 March 2015 23:01 (eleven years ago)

That's a common problem in Australia, too. I used to be able to get stuff from other e-bookshops, since if they took Paypal they didn't check your country of origin, but now they've gone out of business. It's possible Google Play might have it for the UK.

as verbose and purple as a Peter Ustinov made of plums (James Morrison), Monday, 2 March 2015 00:46 (eleven years ago)

You will be able to get the treebook 2nd hand for x pence + couple of quid delivery on amazon, won't glow in the dark but sounds like a less convoluted solution.

xelab, Monday, 2 March 2015 06:08 (eleven years ago)

thanks james, i'll try that.

much prefer reading on kindle to actual paper, to the extent that i probably wouldn't get round to it if i bought it. but even that needs importing from america, mustn't have ever been published over here

NI, Monday, 2 March 2015 21:56 (eleven years ago)

the reverse happens too, like Graham Greene e-books are available in the UK but not the US, due to some rights issue.

lil urbane (Jordan), Monday, 2 March 2015 21:59 (eleven years ago)

pretty often the only option is piracy, if the format works for your reader

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, 2 March 2015 22:06 (eleven years ago)

last resort is to get someone in america to buy it for me and go through the impossible process of trying to crack the drm, anything to avoid the terrible burden of having to turn actual pages by hand

NI, Monday, 2 March 2015 22:22 (eleven years ago)

"the impossible process of trying to crack the drm"

It is a piece of piss with Calibre. I am thick as pigshit and managed to break drm whilst drunk on two bottles of wine one night.

"pretty often the only option is piracy"

That is about 95% of my library right now >:)

xelab, Monday, 2 March 2015 22:39 (eleven years ago)

Amazon's web site does make it tedious as hell to get the ebook files once you purchase them. As xelab says, removing the DRM with Calibre is not difficult. Setting up the plugin to do so is a little convoluted, but you only have to do it once.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Monday, 2 March 2015 23:38 (eleven years ago)

The only hard bit was finding where the azw3 file was dumped iirc.

xelab, Monday, 2 March 2015 23:49 (eleven years ago)

that was my main problem when i tried a year or so ago, setting up the plugin. totally stumped me. probably a bad place to ask but could you point to an idiot's guide?

NI, Tuesday, 3 March 2015 02:57 (eleven years ago)

> Amazon's web site does make it tedious as hell to get the ebook files once you purchase them

i have a Kobo Mini but i also have Kindle for PC installed and downloading to that just puts the file in My Documents / My Kindle Content directory (Windows 7). sort by date and it's the top .azw (name is cryptic)

not everything is available for Kindle For PC though, i find. but it's mostly graphical things that aren't.

koogs, Tuesday, 3 March 2015 09:59 (eleven years ago)

Exactly. I have to install the stupid Kindle app on my computer to download a file.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Tuesday, 3 March 2015 15:04 (eleven years ago)

could be worse, you could be trying to do it on linux 8)

koogs, Tuesday, 3 March 2015 15:07 (eleven years ago)

I think Linux users only read O'Reilly publications anyway? : )

And NI, this is the how-to I used:

https://apprenticealf.wordpress.com/2012/09/10/calibre-plugins-the-simplest-option-for-removing-most-ebook-drm/

It worked as of two or three months ago, so it's probably still OK.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Tuesday, 3 March 2015 15:23 (eleven years ago)

ah great, thanks. any americans on here want a book that's only on kindle in the uk and fancy an illicit trade?

NI, Wednesday, 4 March 2015 07:08 (eleven years ago)

i got the 'ad subsidized' paperwhite for now b/c poor even tho it is TACKY AS HELL to beam ads to my pocket, but so far they have been for like thrillers and romance novels, big sellers. i think somehow today because i was browsing for cheap/free kindle editions of public domain classics, i flipped a switch, because now all i'm getting ads for is jobseeker self-help.

j., Thursday, 5 March 2015 20:16 (eleven years ago)

That sounds shit, can't you just get ad respite by turning off the Wi-Fi?

xp
This is the idiot guide I used to break drm with calibre, honest it is not complex, just a plug-in and it is done.
http://www.howtogeek.com/162994/how-to-strip-the-drm-from-your-kindle-ebooks-for-cross-device-enjoyment-and-archiving/

xelab, Thursday, 5 March 2015 21:05 (eleven years ago)

i suppose i could, but i've taken it places without wi-fi, it seems it just loads the last one. or maybe loads a queue to make sure you never go without.

seems like half the point is to see if they can get you to accidentally bump the buy button when you're unlocking the screen

j., Thursday, 5 March 2015 22:08 (eleven years ago)

I am also poor at the moment j and buy what I can afford to buy and try to support good writers, but when they try and sell downloads at almost hardback prices the publishing companies can go fuck themselves & I will go to the torrent sites instead.

xelab, Thursday, 5 March 2015 22:42 (eleven years ago)

i think somehow today because i was browsing for cheap/free kindle editions of public domain classics, i flipped a switch, because now all i'm getting ads for is jobseeker self-help

Exactly the same thing happened to me a couple of days ago! Stuck a bunch of project gutenberg books on it and now getting ads about how to fill in my resume.

badg, Friday, 6 March 2015 00:24 (eleven years ago)

oh i been stealin books for a minute, i would only pay for a kindle version of a real book out of convenience/exigency. i bought it because i wanted to read florio's montaigne translation more properly and the OOP three volumes of it come pretty pricey, so i figured i'd economize and use the thing to read some of the stolen books i've been stockpiling in pdf form. but the existing e-texts of the florio suck pretty bad so i just said fuck it and went for the slightly tarted up kindle version (good size formatting and a table of contents, but LOTS of OCR errors).

the whole experience is, i dunno.

j., Friday, 6 March 2015 01:07 (eleven years ago)

apparently the app switched from using a downloaded dictionary to looking definitions up on wikipedia? not into it, especially when i don't have service.

lil urbane (Jordan), Friday, 13 March 2015 15:28 (eleven years ago)

maybe it picks? my on-device dictionary uses the downloaded ones but when they fail it tries wikipedia

j., Friday, 13 March 2015 15:30 (eleven years ago)

Yep

Cartesian Dual in the Sun (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 13 March 2015 15:34 (eleven years ago)

oh huh, apparently i've only been looking up the really esoteric ones then.

lil urbane (Jordan), Friday, 13 March 2015 15:36 (eleven years ago)

yep you're right, thanks.

lil urbane (Jordan), Friday, 13 March 2015 15:38 (eleven years ago)

I just won an ebay auction I didn't expect to for a brand new Kobo Aura (not the HD one) for 40 odd quid including p+p. From the reports it looks like a thinner Glo with more memory and a faster processor.

xelab, Friday, 13 March 2015 21:43 (eleven years ago)

I, Claudius and Claudius the God on sale today.

Where is the Brilliant Friend's Home? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 22 March 2015 15:57 (eleven years ago)

I sent my Kobo Aura back because it became unresponsive after an hour, still waiting for the refund. In the meantime I managed to get a 7th gen kindle touch for £40. Once you put it in aeroplane mode and disable the spam nonsense it really is a nice reader, the touch software is far more receptive and quicker than the kobo set-up. I get the feeling I will be very impressed with a Paperwhite when I finally get one. It is a tough game trying to get one cheap on e-bay though.

xelab, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 01:54 (eleven years ago)

it still feels kind of quaintly lo-fi but i'm pretty pleased with mine, already adjusted to the weirdness of reading on a screen, except for maybe missing a bit of the big-picture feel of being able to scan through a book. sideloading and networking stuff have been simple; i'm sending shit to mine all the time just to wean myself from reading pointless junk on the web, and actually paying attention to it when i do read it.

j., Wednesday, 25 March 2015 01:58 (eleven years ago)

The lo-fi thing seems to make it more pleasant, the same as, um, a certain message board. Constraining yourself to just what is on your Kindle helps too. Finally got used to not being able to scan a couple years back when the searching improved, as well as the menu-izing of the TOC, advancing or retreating by chapter, and being able to preview what you would advance to.

Big Iron Shirt Wearer (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 25 March 2015 02:04 (eleven years ago)

I had been obsessively bidding for Kindle Paperwhites on e-bay for months now and managed to finally bag one for £46 on saturday. It is the best e-reader I have ever bought and the light is beautiful. One of great things about the Kindle touch interface is the way it seems to be able to discern the difference between you wiping dust off the screen and turning the page. On Nook and Kobo devices it always turns forwards or backwards when you wipe a speck.
I can't believe I got this one so cheap, sooner or later I wasn't going get ripped off on ebay for once. I don't really see how an e-reader could be any better than a paperwhite, that voyager thing seems like overpriced overkill to me.

xelab, Thursday, 2 April 2015 22:21 (eleven years ago)

(The trick with the kobo is to swipe vertically downwards. Or just put it to sleep and do it)

koogs, Thursday, 2 April 2015 22:30 (eleven years ago)

It took me a while to learn to use the switch on the Kobo, but I wasn't aware of the downwards motion trick. But it makes sense as the upwards motion sometimes turns the brightness up, but not always.

xelab, Thursday, 2 April 2015 22:37 (eleven years ago)

i've read that the screen redraws on the voyager are better - seem pretty clunky on a paperwhite

j., Thursday, 2 April 2015 22:45 (eleven years ago)

screen redraws better. typesetting still shit.

the most painstaking, humorless people in the world (lukas), Thursday, 2 April 2015 23:10 (eleven years ago)

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I always assumed I completely lacked that level of tech discernment myself J, although I appear to be applying it myself to earlier models of e-readers I bought last year. But right now this little fucker I got off e-bay at bargain price seems like a Rolls Royce engine. This thing of wanting the next best thing is very pervasive though.

xelab, Thursday, 2 April 2015 23:18 (eleven years ago)

redraws are pretty in your face! and always a big computer UI sticking point, since no one can ever make a device/machine/OS/app that manages to stay spiff and flash once the passage of time makes the features creep and the computer struggle with what used to be speedy tasks

in that sense it's surprising that they wouldn't make the redraws slicker from the start, i doubt this thing can have much in the way of software development planned, so they could've made it permanently fancy and perpetually young

j., Friday, 3 April 2015 03:23 (eleven years ago)

somehow i didn't even know the paperwhite existed. i've been using the original kindle for years, and thought the only other option was the retine-burning kindle fire so never bothered looking to upgrade. ordering the paperwhite right now though - slightly worried the lack of side buttons will bug me, but can't justify paying an extra £60 just for that. did the lack of buttons annoy anyone on here who was used to the orig kindle? and does this kindle come with a case? (the amazon blurb is vague about if it comes with it or not). but yeah, thanks xelab, you just made my reading time a whole lot better!

NI, Friday, 3 April 2015 06:19 (eleven years ago)

no case

never had any buttons, so don't miss em - takes only the lightest touch, it's like living in a spacecloud

j., Friday, 3 April 2015 06:24 (eleven years ago)

i read in bed mostly so i'm trying to imagine the motion of moving my thumb an inch and wondering precisely how much it'll bother me. a whole lot less than £60 i'm guessing. currently trying to buy a used one from ebay/gumtree, but one says that it can't be registered with amazon for some reason. wonder if it's robbed? might give that a miss as i like being able to email files to my current one.

NI, Friday, 3 April 2015 06:51 (eleven years ago)

does anyone else get annoyed slightly a the paperwhite's top bar getting in the way of the page turning zone.

Arctic Noon Auk, Friday, 3 April 2015 09:23 (eleven years ago)

now my ad is for an NBC TELEVISION EVENT tonite abt the crucifixion

this is an ereader you chodes

it is for books

not THAT book

j., Sunday, 5 April 2015 17:26 (eleven years ago)

lol mine too, & it's a very corny ad too

droit au butt (Euler), Sunday, 5 April 2015 17:44 (eleven years ago)

THE BIBLE CONTINUES

gbx, Sunday, 5 April 2015 19:36 (eleven years ago)

also for real is there a way to change the lock screen?

gbx, Sunday, 5 April 2015 19:37 (eleven years ago)

There must be some way in which you can root these ad-infested devices. I wouldn't put up with it myself, they sound intolerable.

xelab, Sunday, 5 April 2015 22:23 (eleven years ago)

eh mostly i turn my screen off when i'm done with it, the ads only come up if you leave it running too long unattended - good incentive to stay focused in public!!

of course you can always pay but

j., Sunday, 5 April 2015 22:27 (eleven years ago)


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