oh did my link not work?
i really feel for frieden, who is a great scientist, if maybe not the best at press conferences and saying the right thing in public. hopefully the hysteria will subside soon
― k3vin k., Thursday, 16 October 2014 17:52 (eleven years ago)
Really good article/summary here, from a doctor involved in the African response: http://www.lrb.co.uk/v36/n20/paul-farmer/diary
― ornamental cabbage (James Morrison), Friday, 17 October 2014 02:00 (eleven years ago)
Not just any doctor, Paul Farmer! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Farmer
― o. nate, Friday, 17 October 2014 03:22 (eleven years ago)
Texas Health Worker Who May Have Handled Ebola Specimen Is On a Cruise
these texas health workers are real jetsetters, if it weren't for the ebola i'd be jealous of them.
― you little affront to god (reddening), Friday, 17 October 2014 14:21 (eleven years ago)
Ebola "czar" on the way for US, this should be "fun"
― this horrible, rotten slog to rigor mortis (Dr Morbius), Friday, 17 October 2014 14:29 (eleven years ago)
Just found out last night that my girlfriend's brother is the point man for ebola preparation at one of the hospitals most likely to become the ebola treatment center in the Chicago area. I don't know that I have any more reason to be nervous than I did before, but I'm definitely more nervous than I was before.
― What Lies Behind The Beehive? (Old Lunch), Friday, 17 October 2014 15:43 (eleven years ago)
well, that one's easy. just refrain from all contact with your girlfriend or her brother!
― I dunno. (amateurist), Friday, 17 October 2014 16:04 (eleven years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSAXkp9cqbk
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 17 October 2014 16:06 (eleven years ago)
The guy in this article is my new hero:
Peter Pattakos spent 20 minutes Saturday in an Akron bridal shop, getting fitted for a tux for his friend's wedding. Thursday, his friend sent a text message, telling him that Ebola patient Amber Joy Vinson had been in the store around the same time."I thought, 'Oh, that's interesting,'" Pattakos said in a telephone interview Friday. . . . "I didn't exchange any bodily fluids with anyone, so I'm not worried about it," he said. "I'm much more likely to be mistakenly killed by a police officer in this country than to be killed by Ebola, even if you were in the same bridal shop."
"I thought, 'Oh, that's interesting,'" Pattakos said in a telephone interview Friday.
. . . "I didn't exchange any bodily fluids with anyone, so I'm not worried about it," he said. "I'm much more likely to be mistakenly killed by a police officer in this country than to be killed by Ebola, even if you were in the same bridal shop."
― bippity bup at the hotel california (Phil D.), Friday, 17 October 2014 16:08 (eleven years ago)
"mistakenly"
― I dunno. (amateurist), Friday, 17 October 2014 16:11 (eleven years ago)
also:
"I wish people would freak out this much about climate change," he said. "It's one of those problems that's real easy for the media to cover, rather than some of those other problems that people should be more concerned with."
― I dunno. (amateurist), Friday, 17 October 2014 16:12 (eleven years ago)
New hero
― i blow goat farts, aka garts for a living (waterface), Friday, 17 October 2014 16:15 (eleven years ago)
― ornamental cabbage (James Morrison), Thursday, October 16, 2014 10:00 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
highly highly recommend this article btw
― k3vin k., Friday, 17 October 2014 17:06 (eleven years ago)
http://africasacountry.com/misunderstanding-the-ebola-crisis-is-worse-than-ignoring-it/
― festival culture (Jordan), Friday, 17 October 2014 18:14 (eleven years ago)
Overheard in the elevator this morning: "You know the ebola scare is an enormous marketing opportunity. No one wants to come out and say it, but we're all thinking it."
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 17 October 2014 18:15 (eleven years ago)
from Jordan's linked article:
Read any article on the Ebola outbreak in West Africa these days and I guarantee you will come across references to Africans eating wild animals, people hiding infected family members from health workers, patients being taken to witch doctors for treatment, or conspiracy theories about how the disease is man-made
tbh, i've scarcely read any of this. maybe i just pick better news sources? idk.
― I dunno. (amateurist), Friday, 17 October 2014 18:49 (eleven years ago)
I've seen "people hiding infected family members from health workers" all over.
― how's life, Friday, 17 October 2014 18:52 (eleven years ago)
Fox’s Andrea Tantaros: African Ebola patients may visit ‘witch doctor,’ not hospital
― bippity bup at the hotel california (Phil D.), Friday, 17 October 2014 18:55 (eleven years ago)
President Obama selected Ron Klain, a former chief of staff for Vice Presidents Al Gore and Joseph R. Biden Jr., to coordinate the government’s response to the Ebola outbreak.
― this horrible, rotten slog to rigor mortis (Dr Morbius), Friday, 17 October 2014 19:22 (eleven years ago)
i heard pieces about 'bush meat' on NPR for sure
― festival culture (Jordan), Friday, 17 October 2014 20:21 (eleven years ago)
curious about the bush meat angle -- is that not how the virus made the leap from its natural host to humans?
― dan m, Friday, 17 October 2014 20:43 (eleven years ago)
Americans say avoiding international air travel over Ebola outbreak
(looking forward to taking advantage of discounts in air travel)
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 17 October 2014 20:44 (eleven years ago)
Not this time. It has been a factor in the past but bats are more dangerous and thought to be the source of this outbreak.
― Wristy Hurlington (ShariVari), Friday, 17 October 2014 20:45 (eleven years ago)
would ebola even be a thing without september 2014 being the hottest september on record?
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 17 October 2014 20:45 (eleven years ago)
― festival culture (Jordan), Friday, October 17, 2014 4:21 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
preparation/consumption of bushmeat is absolutely contributing to the epidemic and has been reported widely in the peer-reviewed literature. i'm not sure what you're referring to but saying that this/distrust of health authorities/burial practices are some sort of right wing BS is incorrect
― k3vin k., Friday, 17 October 2014 22:13 (eleven years ago)
the article was criticizing the media playing up those things, as oppose to the dire absence of a health-care infrastructure, as being the major cause of the out-of-control ebola epidemic in west africa
― I dunno. (amateurist), Friday, 17 October 2014 22:23 (eleven years ago)
causeS
lots of interesting writing about that here:
http://www.culanth.org/fieldsights/585-ebola-in-perspective
― festival culture (Jordan), Friday, 17 October 2014 22:24 (eleven years ago)
the outbreak in the Congo, which is being caused by a genetically distinct strain, was traced back to the preparation of bushmeat, for example
― k3vin k., Friday, 17 October 2014 22:27 (eleven years ago)
right, but as many have pointed out, outbreaks are one thing, global or even regional epidemics quite another
― I dunno. (amateurist), Friday, 17 October 2014 22:35 (eleven years ago)
you'd expect periodic outbreaks wherever humans might come into contact with disease animals (or their carcasses, or dung, or food), but for a pandemic to begin there has to be a real inability to combat the spread of the virus.
― I dunno. (amateurist), Friday, 17 October 2014 22:36 (eleven years ago)
sorry for not reading other posts between mine, on my phone
― k3vin k., Friday, 17 October 2014 23:27 (eleven years ago)
Pentagon parking lot puker not ebola positive.
― how's life, Saturday, 18 October 2014 00:34 (eleven years ago)
Don't get a hangover in dc. End up in quarantine.
― Jeff, Saturday, 18 October 2014 01:27 (eleven years ago)
yeah, it appears this is going to destroy the Democrats in 2 weeks
― this horrible, rotten slog to rigor mortis (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 19 October 2014 13:13 (eleven years ago)
bushmeat sarcasm quotes
― Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 19 October 2014 16:07 (eleven years ago)
ughjust found out that the bridal shop amber vinson went to is equidistant in the other direction from my parents house as the insane vasectomy cult
ernest angley vasectomy cult -----about 1.5 mi------- my parents' house ------about 1.5 mi-------- ebola bridal shop
wtf akron area
― cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Sunday, 19 October 2014 17:05 (eleven years ago)
holy shit at the ernest angley church/cult. First I'm hearing about this. What the fuck indeed.
― how's life, Sunday, 19 October 2014 21:53 (eleven years ago)
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/24/doctor-tests-positive-for-ebola-at-new-york-hospital?CMP=twt_gu
― Mordy, Friday, 24 October 2014 00:39 (eleven years ago)
yeah, this is gonna make life in the city that much more paranoid for awhile.
― Steve 'n' Seagulls and Flock of Van Dammes (forksclovetofu), Friday, 24 October 2014 02:04 (eleven years ago)
Who bowled in Williamsburg last night?
― Iago Galdston, Friday, 24 October 2014 02:08 (eleven years ago)
momus
― mookieproof, Friday, 24 October 2014 02:10 (eleven years ago)
Imagine if he'd been hospitalized on a Monday after going to brunch
― this horrible, rotten slog to rigor mortis (Dr Morbius), Friday, 24 October 2014 12:09 (eleven years ago)
lol
― how's life, Friday, 24 October 2014 12:34 (eleven years ago)
Around the time that Spencer decided to go to West Africa, it seemed that the world was finally getting involved. In mid-September, the United States, joined by several other countries, pledged more than $175 million to the fight and 3,000 troops. Days after that announcement, the United Nations Security Council unanimously passed an “unprecedented resolution” calling for $1 billion (and an additional $570 million on behalf of WHO) from world leaders in order to send the people and supplies necessary to contain the epidemic.
Ten days later, when the dust had settled, MSF President Joanne Liu called their bluff. “Generous pledges of aid and unprecedented UN resolutions are very welcome. But they will mean little, unless they are translated into immediate action,” Liu said. “The reality on the ground today is this: The promised surge has not yet delivered.” As of Oct. 17, over a month after the plans were set, the UN has only collected 38 percent of its goal.
MSF, the first humanitarian organization to recognize the epidemic, has been waiting for help to come since March. According to a spokesperson, the organization employs 270 international and around 3,018 locally hired staff in the three affected countries: Liberia, Guinea, and Sierra Leone. Among those nations is a population of 22 million. Some heroic volunteers, like Spencer, have joined the fight—but not enough. “The sick are desperate, their families and caregivers are angry, and aid workers are exhausted,” Liu continued at the meeting. “Maintaining quality of care is an extreme challenge.”
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/10/23/why-new-york-s-ebola-case-will-hurt-infected-patients-everywhere.html
― this horrible, rotten slog to rigor mortis (Dr Morbius), Friday, 24 October 2014 15:48 (eleven years ago)
http://www.theawl.com/2014/10/checking-in-with-the-ebola-day-traders
― mookieproof, Friday, 24 October 2014 16:08 (eleven years ago)
Paul Farmer article so good! God, I love him.
I work at one of the biggest hospitals in Boston and the prep going on here is really impressive and extensive but I guess now they're pre-screening every single patient both when they make their appointments and upon arrival which seems both excessive and smart. The IDX dept is right above ours and people keep making jokes about how they're always using our bathroom. ._. For someone with pretty extreme anxiety I'm surprised I'm not more (at all?) worried about this.
― Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Friday, 24 October 2014 17:14 (eleven years ago)
yeah same; i read a good thing at the times (on their well blog) about the specifics of transmission, which my medically-untrained mind had got kinda spooked out about, generally just thinking transmission-by-sweat & flu-symptom'ed-patients-on-major-city-transit were a terrifying combo. & it got into how viral loads in any of the more immediately encounterable fluids were just too small to be a concern. it is totally a fascinating & terrifying thing to think about but it's nice being back in a kind of raised eyebrow state wrt the hysteria.
― schlump, Friday, 24 October 2014 17:59 (eleven years ago)
Yeah, I guess one of the reasons I haven't been worried is that I do know a very small about about medical stuff including how transmissible certain things are and how Ebola in particular works. Also, I've never seen Outbreak which I'm guessing is a good thing right now. ;)
― Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Friday, 24 October 2014 18:05 (eleven years ago)
It upsets me how much the phrase "viral loads" crosses my mind these days
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Friday, 24 October 2014 18:57 (eleven years ago)