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But it felt so right.

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 3 February 2005 05:35 (twenty-one years ago)

jon stewart looks like sam the eagle with a pompadour

Monday At Bernie's (Adrian Langston), Thursday, 3 February 2005 06:19 (twenty-one years ago)

shit i missed it

shit i missed it, Thursday, 3 February 2005 06:25 (twenty-one years ago)

is twat sexist? some guy said it was earlier. i usually am the one to call the sexisms & racisms. o horrible. some1 doesn't like me now cuz i'm catholic.

uh(h), Thursday, 3 February 2005 06:26 (twenty-one years ago)

really? cuz that may or may not happened to me today. cept i'm not a catholic. unless it's like a jew thing, inescapable.

ned sidelander, Thursday, 3 February 2005 06:38 (twenty-one years ago)

kind of late, but Samantha Bee's piece on social security the other day was the funniest one of those segments in a long time, and by far the funniest she's been ever. The guy with the glasses is kind of too loose cannon for me, I imagine him being used by the producers to do shit the others simply wouldn't do, like kids who get the slow kid/youngest to debase themselves in public for their amusement.

tremendoid (tremendoid), Thursday, 3 February 2005 06:50 (twenty-one years ago)

OMG, I was crying at the bobble-head. It looked so lifelike.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Thursday, 3 February 2005 07:18 (twenty-one years ago)

i seriously want a steven colbert bobble-head. There is a market for these things, you know there is.

Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Thursday, 3 February 2005 07:19 (twenty-one years ago)

OMG! If you can track one down please let me know!

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 3 February 2005 15:22 (twenty-one years ago)

"What are you, some kind of Commie?"

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 3 February 2005 15:23 (twenty-one years ago)

If you use "twat" and "dick" interchangeably, it's not sexist.

The correspondent segments are at diminishing returns stage for me, unless the subject is particularly ripe.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 3 February 2005 15:28 (twenty-one years ago)

samantha bee has been ON FIRE lately.

Nimrod Kovacs (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 3 February 2005 15:32 (twenty-one years ago)

morbius otm -- the pre-taped bits can get tiresome, and I often make myself a snack then. But that Samantha Bee bit about the guy who was "homonausic" = classic.

Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Thursday, 3 February 2005 15:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I feel the same way about Rob Corrdry (sic?) - there was a desk segment sometime before the election (presumably about the election) where he mixed anti-administrative rhetoric and biting despondant satire beautifully, and he read / performed his piece with this sharp angry edge that really hit home.

Granted, the handprint-on-shirt bit was a little meh, but you can't hit homers every time.

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 3 February 2005 15:39 (twenty-one years ago)

MORE BEN WILTFONG (sic) PLEASE!

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 3 February 2005 15:40 (twenty-one years ago)

oh, he's just MEAN. Which is great.

Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Thursday, 3 February 2005 15:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh no insurgent LOTR cave troll oh No!

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 3 February 2005 16:15 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...
Nothing like a kidgloves interview with Ari Fleischer to remind you Jon S is NOT Lenny Bruce.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 4 March 2005 22:43 (twenty-one years ago)

I didn't see this, but I hate it when he lets the crooks off with a smile. He does it too often.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 4 March 2005 22:47 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah to not even MENTION jeff gannon wtf?! i guess ari had said before he wouldn't talk about it...

but obv the reason he does this is so that he at least gets those people and sneak a skeptical question or two in. i guess that's his reasoning, i mean. yup, pretty depressing.

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 4 March 2005 23:13 (twenty-one years ago)

he mentioned jeff gannon! but it was kind of in passing.

teeny (teeny), Friday, 4 March 2005 23:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Does he really have a long enough and serious enough forum to really get in their face? Better to be sly and see if their inherent creepiness will show through. If he gets to hard-hitting, these people won't come on his show at all.

Michael White (Hereward), Friday, 4 March 2005 23:14 (twenty-one years ago)

exactly

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 4 March 2005 23:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't think he's aggressively gone after any of his guests, something about Stewart being firm on the fake news angle of the show.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Friday, 4 March 2005 23:33 (twenty-one years ago)

gloves off with jennifer love hewitt, of all people.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 4 March 2005 23:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, it's a comedy show. They can only do so much and remain a comedy show.

Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 4 March 2005 23:35 (twenty-one years ago)

he sure took jennifer love hewitt to task over the garfield movie!

(hahahahaha XPOST of the century!)

kyle (akmonday), Friday, 4 March 2005 23:35 (twenty-one years ago)

He makes jokes that can make the guest squirm a little but I'm sure Stewart justifies this to himself on the basis of being funny and not on the basis of being a journalist.

He and Posh got on so well too.

Michael White (Hereward), Friday, 4 March 2005 23:37 (twenty-one years ago)

That was an xpost with Mr Noodles.

Although, the time he got that Republican congressman from (TX?) and nailed him about the talking points that Kerry and Edwards were "1st and 4th most liberal" by playing dumb and asking the congressman to explain it to him, which the congressman couldn't do, so Stewart explained it to the congressman, and told him how he was using faulty logic: That was great. But you can't have those moments too often, or guests will be wary, and then you'll never get them. (Also it was a shame they didn't keep the congressman around to see how he tried to dig his way out of the hole.)

Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 4 March 2005 23:38 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah i remember that one! it was good.

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 4 March 2005 23:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Am I conservative for not liking Stewart's delivery?

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Friday, 4 March 2005 23:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Stewart is not a tremendous comic. This show really fades when news is slow, but luckily(?) it's a newsy era.

Aaron A., Friday, 4 March 2005 23:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, Leee. Report for re-education tomorrow at 0500 hours.

Michael White (Hereward), Friday, 4 March 2005 23:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Poking holes in self-important blowhards is the foundation of comedy though. I don't think he would lose guests for doing it more often, although I could see that in the show's earlier days.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Saturday, 5 March 2005 00:13 (twenty-one years ago)

He could turn into one if he did it too zealously.

Michael White (Hereward), Saturday, 5 March 2005 00:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't think he's aggressively gone after any of his guests, something about Stewart being firm on the fake news angle of the show.

he's said many times that (i paraphrase) he's in the joke-writing business, not the world-changing business. call that fake naivete, but it's a good stance if it helps him retain his humility.

jbr (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 5 March 2005 00:25 (twenty-one years ago)

If I can't laugh I don't want your revolution!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Saturday, 5 March 2005 00:50 (twenty-one years ago)

But how can he call Fleischer a dick (which he literally did) 2 years ago, then just do a nice-nice when he comes to plug a book?

> They can only do so much and remain a comedy show.<

This is why I agree with Harry Shearer that comedy/satire should NEVER mix with real politicians. Credibility is lost, and the pols look humanized (Giuliani in a dress on SNL, etc).

Thank God I missed Stewart interviewing Kissinger whenever that happened. He should stick to Natalie Portman and Ludacris or can the interviews altogether.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 7 March 2005 14:50 (twenty-one years ago)

he embarrassed Crossfire and maybe had a hand in getting it off the air....he definetely went after them, though it wasn't on his own show

Space Is the Place (Space Is the Place), Monday, 7 March 2005 15:35 (twenty-one years ago)

morbius if you have someone as a GUEST on your show you can't quite call them a dick!! even though i'd agree with the sentiment that'd be totally inappropriate in a venue when you're in complete control.

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 7 March 2005 17:14 (twenty-one years ago)

That's true, tho vintage Letterman essentially did it a few times... I'd argue they shouldn't book the likes of Ari in the first place.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 7 March 2005 17:24 (twenty-one years ago)

morbius if you have someone as a GUEST on your show you can't quite call them a dick!!

Any of you see the episode w/ former NFL running back Robert Smith as the "guest"? Smith was promoting a book he (possibly co-)wrote about the dangers of hero worship, and JS was softballing him questions straight from the one-sheet as if he didn't read the book (or, as it seemed to me, had no interest in having Smith as a guest). Smith seemingly wanted to get in depth about the book's subject matter, but sounded just a bit pedantic when reiterating his thesis (which is the stock response re: "athletes shouldn't be heroes" Barkley's been offering since Smith was in Tuff Skins & headgear). After a few blah questions, Smith tried to call out JS on his not having read the book, which I think JS fessed up to. And the interview became VERY contentious - Smith acted like he got Stewart on something, and Stewart was just bemused as if it wasn't worth the effort to even engage in this cat & his self-important ponderous horsesense - it turned into an awkward posturing bout, wherein Stewart just played out the string until it was time for commercial. The "D" word wasn't said, but it was probably on the tongue.

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 7 March 2005 17:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Some randomish thoughts:

It almost seemed as though politicians (& folks tangentially involved in politics) used The Daily Show as a pulpit prior to the election because they were afraid / in awe of its supposed power, which Stewart at once both plausibly denied - in interview after interview where he'd offer the "this is a COMEDY show" line - and gleefully exploited (re: giving low & mid-level BS artists the business when they'd come on the show toeing the company line).

Now that the election's gone, it seems as though some of the show's supposed cred (which was probably overvalued prior to November) has been lost in a sort of "stock correction", and folks w/ political capital are happy to accomodate. The results of the election seemed to solidify & reinfornce the "it's just satire" stance of the show to its detriment - regardless of the stance of the folks invovled with the show (whether they felt they were exacting change or just making w/ the hyuck-hyucks), seeing Bush & the Republicans win the popular vote (& win on other fronts, like the gay-marriage / gay-union issue) had to have been humbling. The first few post-election shows (reporting on the results & the direct aftermath) seemed a lot more resigned and fatigued than the biting, scathing stuff that was offered in previous months.

In other words, the cat's out of the bag, declawed and neutered, and everyone that was afraid of it is ever-so-glad to make it purr and preen as they see fit.

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 7 March 2005 17:35 (twenty-one years ago)

All of which, in some ways, makes the show more human and interesting. I doubt JS would have gotten cocky had Kerry won (cocky about his role in it, that is), especially considering how he pushed off responsibility for what happened to Crossfire. But JS's handwringing about how "democracy is coming to the Middle East" (i.e., "were they right all along?") is perhaps the most interesting thing on the show right now, watching him try very hard to remain honest.

Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 7 March 2005 18:34 (twenty-one years ago)

biggest poss fallacy = 'democracy' is coming to the middle east BECAUSE OF iraq

i guess that's neither here nor there but it gets my goat see

jk rowling, Monday, 7 March 2005 19:00 (twenty-one years ago)

David your story about the running back is part of what gets under my skin a little bit. Stewart seems much more willing to rake mid-level slebs (and politicians) over the coals than he does the major players. The Kerry interview included. I hear what everyone's saying about how it's a comedy show, and that he's not supposed to be doing the work of a real journalist. But I don't think anyone would care so much about this show if that line weren't blurred from time to time. I'd like to see it blurred with, say, Israel's UN ambassador, or Dinesh D'Souza - both of whom got away with really outlandish statements - as with Posh Spice. Please do not interpret this as a desire to see anyone go easy on Posh Spice, mind.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 7 March 2005 19:10 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah is he really going to lose anything by engaging ppl? i think a shot at besting him would make an appearance all the more appealing, really, i mean i imagine most of these guys are the type to back down from a genuine public debate. i'm obv talking more about d'souza types than say trent lotts or whathaveyou, ie ppl who truly have lots to lose by being made an ass of on television.

jkr, Monday, 7 March 2005 19:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Stewart seems much more willing to rake mid-level slebs (and politicians) over the coals than he does the major players.

These days I get the sense that Stewart thinks these types of interviews are beneath him and the show, and as a result takes a contemptous and disinterested attitude towards the interviewees. Which would be okay if his interviews with the big fish weren't so disappointing, I guess.

Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Monday, 7 March 2005 19:14 (twenty-one years ago)

the interviews were always the worst part of the show anyway

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 7 March 2005 19:15 (twenty-one years ago)

as i've said before, probably in this thread, js is a pretty bad interviewer.

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 7 March 2005 19:16 (twenty-one years ago)


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