Doctor Who 2008: Sontarans cometh, RTD Ood 'ave 'im etc.

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Is that like cosplay, life modelling or just being written in, whichever it is I fear you may be finding out if the doctor's little TARDIS is bigger in or out.

Ed, Thursday, 3 April 2008 05:45 (sixteen years ago) link

man i have no way of watching this, and it is bothersome

remy bean, Thursday, 3 April 2008 05:48 (sixteen years ago) link

yes you do. Get your bt client up & runnin'.

kingfish, Thursday, 3 April 2008 06:01 (sixteen years ago) link

SOME DO NOT LIKE TO STEAL THE BREAD RIGHT FROM THE WRITER'S MOUTHS, KINGFISH.

EVEN IF IT IS A HAMMY, JOWLY MOUTH.

Mikey Bidness, Thursday, 3 April 2008 06:11 (sixteen years ago) link

and some of us like in the u.s., where broadcasts aren't as easily seen...

kingfish, Thursday, 3 April 2008 06:18 (sixteen years ago) link

and some us live in something called REGION 4 which basically means YOU WILL DRINK WATER FROM THE COLD TAP.

Autumn Almanac, Thursday, 3 April 2008 06:20 (sixteen years ago) link

Also it's DOCTOR FUCKING WHO you'd think the thing would be popular enough that enough people will switch on whatever happens regardless of half and hour here or there.

You'd think the thing would be popular enough that it would stay in a prime time slot. Prime time is prime time for a reason. It's when most people get most time to watch TV.

onimo, Thursday, 3 April 2008 08:26 (sixteen years ago) link

Maybe it's on early because it's a children's programme?

Stevie T, Thursday, 3 April 2008 08:54 (sixteen years ago) link

^

Where's the thread for the christmas special? I watched it last night for the first time and thought it was GREAT. I almost cried!??

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 3 April 2008 12:21 (sixteen years ago) link

When the ABC waits six months to broadcast the series, yeah BT is warranted.

Mikey Bidness, Thursday, 3 April 2008 12:31 (sixteen years ago) link

I think they call it family viewing. xxp

DavidM, Thursday, 3 April 2008 14:19 (sixteen years ago) link

When the ABC waits six months to broadcast the series, yeah BT is warranted.

You're not fucking wrong.

James Morrison, Thursday, 3 April 2008 23:47 (sixteen years ago) link

I couldn't wait for the S3 finale, so I downloaded it before it aired on Sci-Fi here. Then I caught parts of it when it did air, and I was horrified - you wouldn't think a couple minutes cut here and there would ruin an episode, but they did more than that, cutting literally seconds out of the middle of scenes, reaction shots, etc. It ruined the pacing and feeling of the show far more than I expected. I shudder to think about what I've missed in pieces from the show over those seasons by watching these hacked versions on Sci-Fi.

So this year I'm not bothering to wait, BT it is. RSS torrenting = godsend.

Nhex, Thursday, 3 April 2008 23:54 (sixteen years ago) link

That's why I can't watch it on sci-fi -- the editing is just so awful and random.

Nicole, Thursday, 3 April 2008 23:56 (sixteen years ago) link

Why is that? I'd always assumed the whole reasoning behind the 45 min episode length was so they could sell it to the international market without need for additional editing - 45 minutes of content plus 15 minutes of ads snugly fills a one hour slot.

chap, Friday, 4 April 2008 00:02 (sixteen years ago) link

Networks are cocks. They whine when people torrent yet they pull devious shit like this.

Autumn Almanac, Friday, 4 April 2008 01:05 (sixteen years ago) link

It needs to be about 38-40 minutes long to fit an hour in the US.

Ed, Friday, 4 April 2008 05:52 (sixteen years ago) link

Hang on, it became a problem because *MARTHA* was in love with him? Um, hello? Rose?

Not a bad start otherwise, tbh.

ailsa, Saturday, 5 April 2008 18:17 (sixteen years ago) link

As I put in the wrong thread

The only thing missing from that was the two goons with the guns walking into the blue oyster bar.

-- Herman G. Neuname, Saturday, 5 April 2008 19:10 (29 minutes ago)

Herman G. Neuname, Saturday, 5 April 2008 18:40 (sixteen years ago) link

Nice start.

Autumn Almanac, Sunday, 6 April 2008 00:16 (sixteen years ago) link

Well that was better than it had any right to be.

Mikey Bidness, Sunday, 6 April 2008 03:13 (sixteen years ago) link

Let's not get carried away.

Alba, Sunday, 6 April 2008 05:49 (sixteen years ago) link

Pretty goofy.

Gukbe, Sunday, 6 April 2008 06:37 (sixteen years ago) link

Goofy, yes, but RTD's been responsible for plenty, plenty worse.

Mikey Bidness, Sunday, 6 April 2008 06:49 (sixteen years ago) link

Catherine Tate was definitely more likeable in this one. Bodes well, fun ep. The through-the-window screaming bit was pretty funny. I was a bit surprised they gave up the Rose reveal so early, but I guess realistically everybody knew about that by now.

(Rose wasn't a problem because their feelings were first platonic then reciprocal... while Martha kind of always had that puppy dog attraction from the start.)

It's pretty early to call but I have this feeling that this year might be it for Tennant, and this season perhaps wraps up the last three (it looks like everybody is back at some point) and there will be a mini-reboot whenever the show comes back.

Nhex, Sunday, 6 April 2008 07:13 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, mini-reboot sounds on the cards. I reckon Tennant and Davies are off after this year.

Pretty goofy.

-- Gukbe, Sunday, 6 April 2008 16:37 (2 hours ago) Bookmark Link

Goofy, yes, but RTD's been responsible for plenty, plenty worse.

-- Mikey Bidness, Sunday, 6 April 2008 16:49 (2 hours ago) Bookmark Link

It's a character introduction episode. No character introduction episode is ever going to be spectacular. It did its job and it did it well.

Autumn Almanac, Sunday, 6 April 2008 09:19 (sixteen years ago) link

Can someone explain to this dense viewer why Catherine Tate was snooping around at the beginning, saying she was from health and safety, asking for a list of customers, pinching the pendant, basically acting like a detective?

RTD seems inordinately obsessed with pregnancy and children.

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 6 April 2008 09:44 (sixteen years ago) link

It's because, having turned down the Doctor on the first go, she changes her mind because her life is shit and goes looking for him in places where Weird Shit is happening in case he turns up there.

suzy, Sunday, 6 April 2008 09:49 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh yeah - she mouths through the window that she was looking for him! Man what a great scene.

I still like to think that she was going through all of that just so she could scam some free Adipose.

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 6 April 2008 10:43 (sixteen years ago) link

What IS the deal with all the annoying, overbearing mothers? Though both Mrs. Tyler and Jones did eventually get some character redemption (as I'm sure Mrs. Noble will eventually) they're all introduced as these obnoxious hens.

Nhex, Sunday, 6 April 2008 11:39 (sixteen years ago) link

i hope we never see Donna's Mum again. i'm sure Cribbins will somehow end up saving the world tho.

blueski, Sunday, 6 April 2008 11:43 (sixteen years ago) link

I didn't mind the episode in itself, and there were some nice touches, but it just seemed a bit stuck together with old bits of nu-Who. A bit of the doctor running about for some reason as yet unexplained, a bit of aliens going about their evil business by exploiting modern mores (after bluetooth headsets and cheap TV sets and age-reversing technology), a bit of a woman persuading him to let her be his companion. You know.

Alba, Sunday, 6 April 2008 12:02 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh yeah, and the overbearing hen thing.

Alba, Sunday, 6 April 2008 12:03 (sixteen years ago) link

A friend has just asked me to participate in his fan fiction. PARTICIPATE. As of this moment I have nfi wtf he's talking about.

-- Autumn Almanac, Thursday, 3 April 2008 11:04 (3 days ago) Bookmark Link

Turns out it's a film he's making, and he wants me to play an old man. (a) I don't know what he is saying about my age and (b) I have been asked to ACT in a FAN FIC MOVIE. Is there a thread for people who have been asked to act in fan fic movies?

Autumn Almanac, Sunday, 6 April 2008 12:12 (sixteen years ago) link

So, half the season until a Moffat ep?

Also, the bt was worth it, since Sci-Fi won't be airing the premiere for another 2 weeks. Not that I have cable anyway...

also, the wiki says this:

2009 and beyond

David Tennant is confirmed to star through to 2009. However, during the second half of 2008, Tennant is committed to a Royal Shakespeare Company production of Hamlet. After the 2008 Christmas Special, three Bank Holiday specials have been commissioned to air throughout 2009.[13][14] The programme will then return in 2010 with a fifth full series. Russell T Davies has suggested that the programme is expected to follow this pattern, of full series interspersed with occasional year-long breaks, for some time into the future.[15]

kingfish, Sunday, 6 April 2008 12:24 (sixteen years ago) link

Pompeii episode looks gangsta. 'I Cladivs' meets the fruitier bits of BSG in the CGI bits of a Vesuvius doco.

Mikey Bidness, Sunday, 6 April 2008 12:44 (sixteen years ago) link

i didn't expect to see Wose in the first episode

blueski, Sunday, 6 April 2008 12:48 (sixteen years ago) link

I much prefer the historical episodes when ignore the lure of big historical events and figures. Unfortunately, this doesn't happen very often.

Alba, Sunday, 6 April 2008 12:50 (sixteen years ago) link

"When they ignore," I mean.

Alba, Sunday, 6 April 2008 12:51 (sixteen years ago) link

when did that last happen? all recent historical stories have involved famous figures and events no?

blueski, Sunday, 6 April 2008 12:54 (sixteen years ago) link

Human Nature/The Family of Blood

Alba, Sunday, 6 April 2008 12:55 (sixteen years ago) link

I know it had the impending first world war as its backdrop, but it wasn't like "OMG LOL Lord Kitchener".

Alba, Sunday, 6 April 2008 12:58 (sixteen years ago) link

Er, World War I was a pretty famous event, I thought. YMMV, obviously, haha xpost

while Martha kind of always had that puppy dog attraction from the start

No, in her first ep she made a big song and dance about how she didn't do aliens etc, which makes me surprised that he fell for Donna saying the same thing.

ailsa, Sunday, 6 April 2008 12:59 (sixteen years ago) link

Overbearing mothers = a reason to not feel bad for bailing on them (even though Rose frequently did, which was one of her more redeeming features and made her probably the most realistic companion - I'm figuring Bernard Cribbins may fulfil this role for Donna rather than Donna's mym though).

I'm guessing RTD may have some issues with his mother?

ailsa, Sunday, 6 April 2008 13:02 (sixteen years ago) link

'The Unquiet Dead' did the Historical Figure Hangin' Wit' The Doctor thing with some degree of subtlety, I think.

Mikey Bidness, Sunday, 6 April 2008 13:05 (sixteen years ago) link

Didn't like that. Read somewhere that Mark Gatiss's original script got changed significantly.

Wikipedia comes to the rescue:

Mark Gatiss stated in the Radio Times that the original script was more bleak and frightening, but that he was advised by Davies to "make it more of a romp."

Fucking romps.

Alba, Sunday, 6 April 2008 13:09 (sixteen years ago) link

No, in her first ep she made a big song and dance about how she didn't do aliens etc, which makes me surprised that he fell for Donna saying the same thing.

It was a sheepish lie/joke on her part, after she was flirting ("You're the one who kissed me!"), and when he turns away she looks sadly down. Watch it again, it's pretty clear even from that point that she wanted him.

I do think the writers want to set up Donna as a non-romantic companion, just one who wants that thrill and adventure, but I'm afraid once all the others come in it's going to be a madhouse between all of them. Though you do have to wonder why with the exception of snap-pop-open-head guy from S1 all his companions want to sleep with the old Doctor. (Man, that dude was a random pickup.)

Overbearing mothers = a reason to not feel bad for bailing on them
Yeah, you're probably right about this. And wo yea, I think RTD's got some mommy issues.

I didn't know about the '08 X-Mas special/Bank Holiday stuff coming up, that's cool to hear.

Nhex, Sunday, 6 April 2008 13:28 (sixteen years ago) link

Martha's intentions might be clear to the viewer, but it wasn't clear to him, so why believe Donna when she says the same thing?

ailsa, Sunday, 6 April 2008 13:31 (sixteen years ago) link

(especially when she's been stalking him with all her clothes in the back of the car ready to move in)

ailsa, Sunday, 6 April 2008 13:32 (sixteen years ago) link

Ok, that's a good point. I guess... Catherine Tate full-on snark power means no falling in love? I'm just gonna have to go with that.

Fucking romps.
LOL, romps with the Doctor.

Nhex, Sunday, 6 April 2008 13:41 (sixteen years ago) link


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