Worst white man on the cover of the New Statesman's 'Great White Male' issue

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There's a tiny part of me that wants to think "maybe that's the point, maybe we are supposed to think about all these unexceptionally odious tosspots who floated on in to their positions on their unearned WhiteMale privilege" but I actually think that would be giving the New Statesman too much credit. I think these were the dudes they were going to publish anyway.

Jacques Lacan let me rock u; let me rock u, Jacques Lacan (Branwell with an N), Saturday, 11 October 2014 21:04 (nine years ago) link

had to be all white men including the 'with' section to pull that off

― Ƹ༑Ʒ (imago), Saturday, October 11, 2014 12:29 PM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Ƹ༑Ʒ (imago), Saturday, 11 October 2014 21:07 (nine years ago) link

Clive James cheated on his wife. On a quick search I couldn't find anyone else.

― Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 11 October 2014 20:51 (14 minutes ago) Permalink

Clive James is in the final stages of leukemia.

Treeship, Saturday, 11 October 2014 21:09 (nine years ago) link

ah, you win some, you lose some

Chimp Arsons, Saturday, 11 October 2014 21:11 (nine years ago) link

worst white man posting on the worst white man on the cover of the new stateman's 'great white male' issue thread

Mordy, Saturday, 11 October 2014 21:13 (nine years ago) link

Just finding things I like or don't mind too much. Not claiming these people have never done bad things.

Grayson Perry. Find him quite interesting and I like that he supports old crafts.

Stephen Fry. Liked his comedy on various things, enjoyed his documentaries on language and homophobia. Kinda like QI. Generally like him despite saying sexist things.

Will Self. Found him very funny on numerous occasions. Liked some of his articles and interviews.

Robert Webb. I like Peepshow (latest series was really downhill though). Said some funny stuff on panel shows.

Clive James. Seems like a good guy. My brother loves him.

David Baddiel. Vaguely remember him saying something funny. Seems okay.

Owen Jones. Disagree with him on a few things but I don't think he's a dick.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 11 October 2014 21:15 (nine years ago) link

ah, you win some, you lose some

― Chimp Arsons, Saturday, October 11, 2014 5:11 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Are you happy he's ill? Why?

Treeship, Saturday, 11 October 2014 21:15 (nine years ago) link

Well we shan't examine Clive James then because cancer instantly absolves people of any wrong they may have committed, and qualifies them for instant sainthood.

Jacques Lacan let me rock u; let me rock u, Jacques Lacan (Branwell with an N), Saturday, 11 October 2014 21:15 (nine years ago) link

Clive James is in the final stages of leukemia.

I just dodged a cousin's funeral who prematurely died of cancer, bad shit happens to shit people as well.

xelab, Saturday, 11 October 2014 21:15 (nine years ago) link

toxic

Twist of Caliphate (Bob Six), Saturday, 11 October 2014 21:19 (nine years ago) link

aiieee, i do recall reports of him being unwell now, that's fucking rough

john wahey (NickB), Saturday, 11 October 2014 21:19 (nine years ago) link

Clive James is wonderful.

Chuck_Tatum, Saturday, 11 October 2014 21:23 (nine years ago) link

anyhow, last time i read any james, he was criticizing the bbc for not giving balanced coverage of climate change, not enough representation of the sceptical pov, that sort of thing iirc

john wahey (NickB), Saturday, 11 October 2014 21:24 (nine years ago) link

Heaven forbid, good thing he's dying I guess

Treeship, Saturday, 11 October 2014 21:28 (nine years ago) link

I've only said critical thing about CJ on this board and am not a fan. What I objected to here was people actively scouting out reasons to hate him and others by searching their name + "scandal." It just seems dumb.

I realize the irony of the NS only featuring white male voices in this issue though. Seems like a different issue than looking for reasons to hate the writers individually though.

Treeship, Saturday, 11 October 2014 21:33 (nine years ago) link

the only person i've seen googling reasons to hate on this thread has actually been quite positive about half the list

Chimp Arsons, Saturday, 11 October 2014 21:35 (nine years ago) link

tony parsons "cool guy"

About 11,700 results (0.30 seconds)

soref, Saturday, 11 October 2014 21:37 (nine years ago) link

A Special Issue on the Great WhiteStraw Man

Twist of Caliphate (Bob Six), Saturday, 11 October 2014 21:42 (nine years ago) link

Heaven forbid, good thing he's dying I guess

don't be a boob treeship

john wahey (NickB), Saturday, 11 October 2014 21:44 (nine years ago) link

The reason I was using search engines is to find out why on earth these people are so hated that they'd be lumped in with Parsons. I've seen some ridiculously over the top hate on this forum (sometimes even close to the style of Parsons) for people like Carey Mulligan and James Corden (maybe I'd have google to find out why). I'm just sceptical that all these people are worth that hate and wanted to say some nice things to balance it out.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 11 October 2014 21:48 (nine years ago) link

wow way to pick out two of the all time worst to compare to tbh

local eire man (darraghmac), Saturday, 11 October 2014 21:50 (nine years ago) link

SEE YOU TRY TO PLAY THE BALANCE CARD BUT THEY SUCK YOU BACK IN

Chimp Arsons, Saturday, 11 October 2014 21:52 (nine years ago) link

This is not a thread for saying nice things! (This is a thread for making spurious assumptions about the gender and race of the participants right now, but I'm finding that too funny to disabuse right now.)

Jacques Lacan let me rock u; let me rock u, Jacques Lacan (Branwell with an N), Saturday, 11 October 2014 21:54 (nine years ago) link

i am wondering who'd have to be amongst this lot to comprehensively, no-questions prevail. corden seems a shout, and yet

Ƹ༑Ʒ (imago), Saturday, 11 October 2014 21:54 (nine years ago) link

bush obv but not likely to be asked to weigh in on cutural issues in the uk now is he

alexei sayles my vote but i recognise that's not likely to fly on ilx

local eire man (darraghmac), Saturday, 11 October 2014 21:57 (nine years ago) link

Rupert Murdoch?

Jacques Lacan let me rock u; let me rock u, Jacques Lacan (Branwell with an N), Saturday, 11 October 2014 21:57 (nine years ago) link

rod liddle ftw

john wahey (NickB), Saturday, 11 October 2014 21:58 (nine years ago) link

Hitler

lool at the herrlich (wins), Saturday, 11 October 2014 21:59 (nine years ago) link

Stephen Fry

lool at the herrlich (wins), Saturday, 11 October 2014 21:59 (nine years ago) link

What I know about them right now: Corden annoys people. Carey Mulligan's acting ability is in question and she dates a guy from a band that lots of people don't like.
Are they Ukip supporters too?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 11 October 2014 21:59 (nine years ago) link

oh man fuck rod liddle

local eire man (darraghmac), Saturday, 11 October 2014 22:00 (nine years ago) link

who would be on a US cover analogue? philip roth prob? franzen?

Mordy, Saturday, 11 October 2014 22:00 (nine years ago) link

'corden annoys people, hitler had some dubious politics' you do realise this is the level of minimising yr guilty of there RAG

local eire man (darraghmac), Saturday, 11 October 2014 22:00 (nine years ago) link

Wait I've got it: Morrissey

Jacques Lacan let me rock u; let me rock u, Jacques Lacan (Branwell with an N), Saturday, 11 October 2014 22:03 (nine years ago) link

Hey now he's not well

lool at the herrlich (wins), Saturday, 11 October 2014 22:03 (nine years ago) link

heh

local eire man (darraghmac), Saturday, 11 October 2014 22:05 (nine years ago) link

whichever little piece of fucking shit comes out of the Amis scrotom next = literary genius, get the fucking Gillster to interview him :O=

xelab, Saturday, 11 October 2014 22:07 (nine years ago) link

I still love Morrissey despite his often idiotic politics (including Ukip unfortunately), some other daft opinions, excessive negativity and his steep musical decline from the mid90s onward.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 11 October 2014 22:07 (nine years ago) link

robert do you ever feel you have too much love for the rest of the world

Ƹ༑Ʒ (imago), Saturday, 11 October 2014 22:09 (nine years ago) link

;)

Ƹ༑Ʒ (imago), Saturday, 11 October 2014 22:10 (nine years ago) link

I need reasons to not commit suicide. Excessive negativity feels cheap, annoying and self destructive.

Amis seems like the type of writer I'd like to completely dismiss but I often hear good things. I was surprised that Caitlin R Kiernan was quite a fan.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 11 October 2014 22:13 (nine years ago) link

But I confess I laughed my ass off at the Corden Hitler thing

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 11 October 2014 22:14 (nine years ago) link

Maaaaan, the sheer joy of hatred is the only thing that keeps me alive sometimes! (I mean that quite literally.)

Jacques Lacan let me rock u; let me rock u, Jacques Lacan (Branwell with an N), Saturday, 11 October 2014 22:15 (nine years ago) link

:( sorry for assoff

local eire man (darraghmac), Saturday, 11 October 2014 22:16 (nine years ago) link

without an ass u might have to shit thru ur scrotum like marty amis

lool at the herrlich (wins), Saturday, 11 October 2014 22:18 (nine years ago) link

marty aims v carefully

local eire man (darraghmac), Saturday, 11 October 2014 22:20 (nine years ago) link

My hate list

Parsons
G G@lloway
Michae1 M00re
Putin
S Palin, Bush, McCain
Michael Howard

There are probably more but I prefer to keep the list short

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 11 October 2014 22:21 (nine years ago) link

can see you've had run-ins with Michael Moore before dude, good idea to googleproof him

Chimp Arsons, Saturday, 11 October 2014 22:24 (nine years ago) link

Never had run ins with anybody or their fans. Just being cautious.

Simon Cowell too.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 11 October 2014 22:25 (nine years ago) link

I was on a very anxious death-watch when I heard the tragic news of Marr nearly expiring on a rowing machine, I literally cried myself to sleep that night because I love him so much.

xelab, Saturday, 11 October 2014 22:31 (nine years ago) link


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