Like, I'm sure lots of these small-fry kinda guys individually (outside of that pentateuch of tosspots) are fairly unexceptional. But when thrown together en masse there's just this simmering sense of "ugh ugh ugh" especially when placed up beside that Perry article decrying the preponderance of WhiteDudes.
― Jacques Lacan let me rock u; let me rock u, Jacques Lacan (Branwell with an N), Saturday, 11 October 2014 20:56 (nine years ago) link
I am so out of the loop I had to google Matthew Parris, he looks like a bit of a mediocre shithead in comparison to some of these heavyweights.
― xelab, Saturday, 11 October 2014 21:00 (nine years ago) link
There's a tiny part of me that wants to think "maybe that's the point, maybe we are supposed to think about all these unexceptionally odious tosspots who floated on in to their positions on their unearned WhiteMale privilege" but I actually think that would be giving the New Statesman too much credit. I think these were the dudes they were going to publish anyway.
― Jacques Lacan let me rock u; let me rock u, Jacques Lacan (Branwell with an N), Saturday, 11 October 2014 21:04 (nine years ago) link
had to be all white men including the 'with' section to pull that off
― Ƹ༑Ʒ (imago), Saturday, October 11, 2014 12:29 PM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Ƹ༑Ʒ (imago), Saturday, 11 October 2014 21:07 (nine years ago) link
Clive James cheated on his wife. On a quick search I couldn't find anyone else.― Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 11 October 2014 20:51 (14 minutes ago) Permalink
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 11 October 2014 20:51 (14 minutes ago) Permalink
Clive James is in the final stages of leukemia.
― Treeship, Saturday, 11 October 2014 21:09 (nine years ago) link
ah, you win some, you lose some
― Chimp Arsons, Saturday, 11 October 2014 21:11 (nine years ago) link
worst white man posting on the worst white man on the cover of the new stateman's 'great white male' issue thread
― Mordy, Saturday, 11 October 2014 21:13 (nine years ago) link
Just finding things I like or don't mind too much. Not claiming these people have never done bad things.
Grayson Perry. Find him quite interesting and I like that he supports old crafts.
Stephen Fry. Liked his comedy on various things, enjoyed his documentaries on language and homophobia. Kinda like QI. Generally like him despite saying sexist things.
Will Self. Found him very funny on numerous occasions. Liked some of his articles and interviews.
Robert Webb. I like Peepshow (latest series was really downhill though). Said some funny stuff on panel shows.
Clive James. Seems like a good guy. My brother loves him.
David Baddiel. Vaguely remember him saying something funny. Seems okay.
Owen Jones. Disagree with him on a few things but I don't think he's a dick.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 11 October 2014 21:15 (nine years ago) link
― Chimp Arsons, Saturday, October 11, 2014 5:11 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Are you happy he's ill? Why?
― Treeship, Saturday, 11 October 2014 21:15 (nine years ago) link
Well we shan't examine Clive James then because cancer instantly absolves people of any wrong they may have committed, and qualifies them for instant sainthood.
― Jacques Lacan let me rock u; let me rock u, Jacques Lacan (Branwell with an N), Saturday, 11 October 2014 21:15 (nine years ago) link
I just dodged a cousin's funeral who prematurely died of cancer, bad shit happens to shit people as well.
― xelab, Saturday, 11 October 2014 21:15 (nine years ago) link
toxic
― Twist of Caliphate (Bob Six), Saturday, 11 October 2014 21:19 (nine years ago) link
aiieee, i do recall reports of him being unwell now, that's fucking rough
― john wahey (NickB), Saturday, 11 October 2014 21:19 (nine years ago) link
Clive James is wonderful.
― Chuck_Tatum, Saturday, 11 October 2014 21:23 (nine years ago) link
anyhow, last time i read any james, he was criticizing the bbc for not giving balanced coverage of climate change, not enough representation of the sceptical pov, that sort of thing iirc
― john wahey (NickB), Saturday, 11 October 2014 21:24 (nine years ago) link
Heaven forbid, good thing he's dying I guess
― Treeship, Saturday, 11 October 2014 21:28 (nine years ago) link
I've only said critical thing about CJ on this board and am not a fan. What I objected to here was people actively scouting out reasons to hate him and others by searching their name + "scandal." It just seems dumb.
I realize the irony of the NS only featuring white male voices in this issue though. Seems like a different issue than looking for reasons to hate the writers individually though.
― Treeship, Saturday, 11 October 2014 21:33 (nine years ago) link
the only person i've seen googling reasons to hate on this thread has actually been quite positive about half the list
― Chimp Arsons, Saturday, 11 October 2014 21:35 (nine years ago) link
tony parsons "cool guy"
About 11,700 results (0.30 seconds)
― soref, Saturday, 11 October 2014 21:37 (nine years ago) link
A Special Issue on the Great WhiteStraw Man
― Twist of Caliphate (Bob Six), Saturday, 11 October 2014 21:42 (nine years ago) link
don't be a boob treeship
― john wahey (NickB), Saturday, 11 October 2014 21:44 (nine years ago) link
The reason I was using search engines is to find out why on earth these people are so hated that they'd be lumped in with Parsons. I've seen some ridiculously over the top hate on this forum (sometimes even close to the style of Parsons) for people like Carey Mulligan and James Corden (maybe I'd have google to find out why). I'm just sceptical that all these people are worth that hate and wanted to say some nice things to balance it out.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 11 October 2014 21:48 (nine years ago) link
wow way to pick out two of the all time worst to compare to tbh
― local eire man (darraghmac), Saturday, 11 October 2014 21:50 (nine years ago) link
SEE YOU TRY TO PLAY THE BALANCE CARD BUT THEY SUCK YOU BACK IN
― Chimp Arsons, Saturday, 11 October 2014 21:52 (nine years ago) link
This is not a thread for saying nice things! (This is a thread for making spurious assumptions about the gender and race of the participants right now, but I'm finding that too funny to disabuse right now.)
― Jacques Lacan let me rock u; let me rock u, Jacques Lacan (Branwell with an N), Saturday, 11 October 2014 21:54 (nine years ago) link
i am wondering who'd have to be amongst this lot to comprehensively, no-questions prevail. corden seems a shout, and yet
― Ƹ༑Ʒ (imago), Saturday, 11 October 2014 21:54 (nine years ago) link
bush obv but not likely to be asked to weigh in on cutural issues in the uk now is he
alexei sayles my vote but i recognise that's not likely to fly on ilx
― local eire man (darraghmac), Saturday, 11 October 2014 21:57 (nine years ago) link
Rupert Murdoch?
― Jacques Lacan let me rock u; let me rock u, Jacques Lacan (Branwell with an N), Saturday, 11 October 2014 21:57 (nine years ago) link
rod liddle ftw
― john wahey (NickB), Saturday, 11 October 2014 21:58 (nine years ago) link
Hitler
― lool at the herrlich (wins), Saturday, 11 October 2014 21:59 (nine years ago) link
Stephen Fry
What I know about them right now: Corden annoys people. Carey Mulligan's acting ability is in question and she dates a guy from a band that lots of people don't like. Are they Ukip supporters too?
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 11 October 2014 21:59 (nine years ago) link
oh man fuck rod liddle
― local eire man (darraghmac), Saturday, 11 October 2014 22:00 (nine years ago) link
who would be on a US cover analogue? philip roth prob? franzen?
― Mordy, Saturday, 11 October 2014 22:00 (nine years ago) link
'corden annoys people, hitler had some dubious politics' you do realise this is the level of minimising yr guilty of there RAG
Wait I've got it: Morrissey
― Jacques Lacan let me rock u; let me rock u, Jacques Lacan (Branwell with an N), Saturday, 11 October 2014 22:03 (nine years ago) link
Hey now he's not well
― lool at the herrlich (wins), Saturday, 11 October 2014 22:03 (nine years ago) link
heh
― local eire man (darraghmac), Saturday, 11 October 2014 22:05 (nine years ago) link
whichever little piece of fucking shit comes out of the Amis scrotom next = literary genius, get the fucking Gillster to interview him :O=
― xelab, Saturday, 11 October 2014 22:07 (nine years ago) link
I still love Morrissey despite his often idiotic politics (including Ukip unfortunately), some other daft opinions, excessive negativity and his steep musical decline from the mid90s onward.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 11 October 2014 22:07 (nine years ago) link
robert do you ever feel you have too much love for the rest of the world
― Ƹ༑Ʒ (imago), Saturday, 11 October 2014 22:09 (nine years ago) link
;)
― Ƹ༑Ʒ (imago), Saturday, 11 October 2014 22:10 (nine years ago) link
I need reasons to not commit suicide. Excessive negativity feels cheap, annoying and self destructive.
Amis seems like the type of writer I'd like to completely dismiss but I often hear good things. I was surprised that Caitlin R Kiernan was quite a fan.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 11 October 2014 22:13 (nine years ago) link
But I confess I laughed my ass off at the Corden Hitler thing
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 11 October 2014 22:14 (nine years ago) link
Maaaaan, the sheer joy of hatred is the only thing that keeps me alive sometimes! (I mean that quite literally.)
― Jacques Lacan let me rock u; let me rock u, Jacques Lacan (Branwell with an N), Saturday, 11 October 2014 22:15 (nine years ago) link
:( sorry for assoff
― local eire man (darraghmac), Saturday, 11 October 2014 22:16 (nine years ago) link
without an ass u might have to shit thru ur scrotum like marty amis
― lool at the herrlich (wins), Saturday, 11 October 2014 22:18 (nine years ago) link
marty aims v carefully
― local eire man (darraghmac), Saturday, 11 October 2014 22:20 (nine years ago) link
My hate list
ParsonsG G@llowayMichae1 M00rePutinS Palin, Bush, McCainMichael Howard
There are probably more but I prefer to keep the list short
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 11 October 2014 22:21 (nine years ago) link
can see you've had run-ins with Michael Moore before dude, good idea to googleproof him
― Chimp Arsons, Saturday, 11 October 2014 22:24 (nine years ago) link