Katrina's POLITICAL aftermath (keep the political discussions HERE)

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I just watched that whole Kanye clip. holy fucking shit, he is the greatest.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Saturday, 3 September 2005 02:03 (twenty years ago)

Is his music any good? Would I like it? That clip rules!

Fushigina Blobby: Blobania no Kiki (ex machina), Saturday, 3 September 2005 02:14 (twenty years ago)

i don't care. I'm buying the album anyway.

kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Saturday, 3 September 2005 02:14 (twenty years ago)

in the midst of all of this, white pundits are really struggling with the notion that their sense of middle-class fairness doesn't actually exist, nor does any concept of actual equality. these people, for all they can tell, are free only to die.

add tucker carlson to the white paranoid list.

blackmail.is.my.life (blackmail.is.my.life), Saturday, 3 September 2005 02:15 (twenty years ago)

The Navy has hired Houston-based Halliburton Co. to restore electric power, repair roofs and remove debris at three naval facilities in Mississippi damaged by Hurricane Katrina.

Halliburton subsidiary KBR will also perform damage assessments at other naval installations in New Orleans as soon as it is safe to do so.

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/business/3335685

James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Saturday, 3 September 2005 02:16 (twenty years ago)

Sharpton's giving Tucker Carlson a tongue-lashing on MSNBC about the race thing right now. this is not gonna go away, and rightly so.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Saturday, 3 September 2005 02:30 (twenty years ago)

just applauded Kanye. fuck. full-on ranting.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Saturday, 3 September 2005 02:31 (twenty years ago)

Just watched a lengthy confession of a woman to a bishop on WAFB. She was describing hell, murder, rape, starvation, countless corpses being eaten by alligators and rats...

This is monstrous.

DK has a diary on it that insists that the Red Cross is being kept out of New Orleans deliberately, in effect, to starve out the survivors. If this turns out to be true.... i just don't know.

badgerminor (badgerminor), Saturday, 3 September 2005 02:40 (twenty years ago)

they just cut it from the west coast broadcast. they fade to a graphic right after mike gets down speaking. fuckers.

kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Saturday, 3 September 2005 02:43 (twenty years ago)

http://www.catandgirl.com/archive/cgflooding.gif

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!




Agh, they cut it? Bastards! Fucking pricks!

Ian Riese-Moraine: Let this bastard out, and you'll get whiplash! (Eastern Mantr, Saturday, 3 September 2005 02:44 (twenty years ago)

Cutting it = old media companies trying to ignore the power of nu interweb media distribution (or they are just stupid old technophobes who have never heard of google)

lyra (lyra), Saturday, 3 September 2005 02:48 (twenty years ago)

Hurricane Katrina: Why is the Red Cross not in New Orleans?

badgerminor (badgerminor), Saturday, 3 September 2005 02:49 (twenty years ago)

Beat me to it, badger.

Ian Riese-Moraine: Let this bastard out, and you'll get whiplash! (Eastern Mantr, Saturday, 3 September 2005 02:51 (twenty years ago)

http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/7180/gokanye5iv.jpg

(right as Mike is about to react)

kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Saturday, 3 September 2005 03:01 (twenty years ago)

wow - I'm amazed about the Red Cross thing. But I don't really understant - the Red Cross is in fact NOT in NO at the moment?!? Why is this not all over the media?!!

Okay, Larry King just asked... jesus, this could be a major policy fuckup decision w/serious blowback....

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Saturday, 3 September 2005 03:12 (twenty years ago)

new flickr group: "bush bash"
http://flickr.com/groups/bushbash/

renegade bus (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 3 September 2005 03:19 (twenty years ago)

No, they're not in Orleans Parish. They're apparently in Jefferson Parish (Kenner and Metairie), but not allowed into the city proper. xpost

Ian Riese-Moraine: Let this bastard out, and you'll get whiplash! (Eastern Mantr, Saturday, 3 September 2005 03:20 (twenty years ago)

And because of the State of Louisiana's Dept. of Homeland Security, too! Christ!

Ian Riese-Moraine: Let this bastard out, and you'll get whiplash! (Eastern Mantr, Saturday, 3 September 2005 03:21 (twenty years ago)

homeland security is afraid that people won't want to evacuate because they'll get too used to the red cross' food. or something.

renegade bus (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 3 September 2005 03:22 (twenty years ago)

i like how Flickr is still in "beta".

it's like friendster being in "beta" mode for like a year until everyone got bored with it and moved on to myspace.

kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Saturday, 3 September 2005 03:24 (twenty years ago)

WTF! (x-post)

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 3 September 2005 03:28 (twenty years ago)

dammit, too many old photos. i thought they'd have more defacings from this week.

kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Saturday, 3 September 2005 03:28 (twenty years ago)

It seems like Brown of FEMA is in on it though. He seems evasive whenever anyone asks a direct question about why the ubiquitous helicopters (i hear one overhead now, but this is more because of LSU's PMAC a few blocks away...) do not airlift in water and food.

badgerminor (badgerminor), Saturday, 3 September 2005 03:30 (twenty years ago)

sullivan sounds like old-school leftist academics, with a twist: 'well sure china and the ussr are despotic tyrannies, but that's not real communism'

mookieproof (mookieproof), Saturday, 3 September 2005 03:32 (twenty years ago)

the rationale for keeping out the Red Cross is incomprehensible. this is an organization that operates in war zones. WHAT THE FUCK.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Saturday, 3 September 2005 03:32 (twenty years ago)

Mr. Bush, this is your accountability moment.

jergins (jergins), Saturday, 3 September 2005 03:35 (twenty years ago)

Red Kross might also be helpful.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Saturday, 3 September 2005 03:37 (twenty years ago)

i earnestly think they are trying to kill the remaining evacuees, because if they survive they'll do some mobilizing of their own and it won't be pretty.

renegade bus (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 3 September 2005 03:45 (twenty years ago)

i can hear every civil-rights lawyer in america rubbing his hands together right now. it's like a million cicadas humming at once.

renegade bus (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 3 September 2005 03:47 (twenty years ago)

dear God, violence is going to happen. angry, angry people vs troops and cops with automatic rifles.

it won't get reported for a little while after it happens(maybe 24-48 hours), but stories will get out.

kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Saturday, 3 September 2005 03:56 (twenty years ago)

this diary about a call to DHS says Michael Chertoff made the decision.

If this is confirmed as truth, the man's life is forfeit. He could never walk the streets of America unprotected.

badgerminor (badgerminor), Saturday, 3 September 2005 03:59 (twenty years ago)

some more dirt on chertoff

renegade bus (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 3 September 2005 04:10 (twenty years ago)

jesus christ, man. i hope to Christ we don't have riots break out somewhere.

check this shit out. This is a comment on Interdictor's LJ tonight:

I am a 65 yr. old, white, republican, male, pissed taxpayer.

First I am pissed at the racial crap. Anybody that can look at a human being in torment and care about pigment ain't worth a damn. Has anybody noticed that most of the first responders are white and most of the victims are not? Do not even think about telling me that crap in person.

Second I am pissed at the inconceivably impotent efforts by our Federal Government. I am absolutely furious. I just watched on TV a baby that has been in the convention center for SIX DAYS with inadequate EVERYTHING. I am a real hard old man and I felt tears roll down my face. The Mayor of New Orleans ought to be horse whipped. The Governor of Lousiana ought be tarred and feathered. The President of the mightiest nation on earth ought to be cleaning toilets.

I am one of them well off middle class whites that pays a LOT of taxes. I count it a privledge. I take pride in the response of my home state, Texas, to the refugees.

It ain't about race, it is about stupid and incompetent and arrogant.

If the thin blue line is REALLY this inept, we are ALL in for a lot of misery.

Ray

Something big is happening. People are getting increasingly angry & frustrated, and they're not even in places affected by this.

and they're still gunna vote on repealing the estate tax on tuesday.

oh yeah, and another comment:

Mr. Brown is starting to sound like the former Iraqi Information Minister . . . "No problems there, everything is swell."

kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Saturday, 3 September 2005 04:52 (twenty years ago)

something tells me that brown is being threatened by chertoff's people into saying everything's a-ok. there's no other reason why someone from fucking FEMA, even one with no emergency management background, would act so fecklessly.

renegade bus (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 3 September 2005 05:11 (twenty years ago)

lest we forget about chertoff's mob connections (i.e. "ability to get someone snuffed out"):

Chertoff was a political attack dog in that job, indicting and convicting a raft of Democratic officeholders. But one who Chertoff deliberately let get away was his big buddy, Bob “The Torch” Torricelli, forced to resign his U.S. Senate seat from Sopranoland in a major corruption scandal. Nick Acocella, editor of the respected insider newsletter New Jersey Politifax, recalls that, at the height of the Torricelli scandal, and while Chertoff was U.S. Attorney, he saw The Torch and Chertoff together at a South Jersey Jewish banquet where they embraced and huddled intimately “like twins separated at birth.” One would have thought a federal prosecutor would have kept his distance from a target of criminal investigations that were making daily headlines in the Jersey press.

When Chertoff was named by Bush to head the Justice Department’s Criminal Division--partly because he was a skilled political hitman, who’d also raised a ton of money as financial vice-chair of Bush’s Garden State campaign in 2000-- it’s an open secret in Jersey that he squelched an indictment of Torricelli as a reward for The Torch’s support of key Bush legislation the Democratic Party leadership opposed, including tax cuts for corporations and the very rich. (Many of the fat-cats Chertoff shook down for Bush had also been huge givers to The Torch.)

renegade bus (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 3 September 2005 05:16 (twenty years ago)

James Lee Witt would've never stood for this bullshit.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Saturday, 3 September 2005 05:18 (twenty years ago)

listening to the scanner feeds is fuckin' eerie.

i keep having flashbacks to Half-Life or something.

kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Saturday, 3 September 2005 05:23 (twenty years ago)

wow. that story creates a profile that colors this theory Red Cross exclusion as a strategy as a standard modus operandi for him.

badgerminor (badgerminor), Saturday, 3 September 2005 05:27 (twenty years ago)

and from direland: MIKE CHERTOFF'S DIRTY LITTLE SECRETS: BUSH'S NEW HOMELAND SECURITY CZAR

renegade bus (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 3 September 2005 05:27 (twenty years ago)

God, I just listened to Mayor Nagin's radio show call-in.

internet comedy novice (Matt Chesnut), Saturday, 3 September 2005 05:33 (twenty years ago)

i need to go to bed. When i saw David Icke's name in a disclaimer, 12 foot lizards obviously came to mind. it all became obvious that this was all a diabolical scheme to feed people to alligators.

badgerminor (badgerminor), Saturday, 3 September 2005 05:35 (twenty years ago)

who else here thinks nagin is going to "mysteriously disappear" soon?

renegade bus (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 3 September 2005 05:36 (twenty years ago)

and from http://www.counterpunch.org/whitney01222005.html

Chertoff is a member in good standing in the Federalist Society; a cabal of radical lawyers devoted to the systematic dismantling of the Bill of Rights. Already, they've provided much of the legal rationale for the unlawful detention of aliens, the enhanced powers of the Executive, the indefinite incarceration of POW's and the cruel and unusual treatment of prisoners. They've also made strides in crushing what few regulations still exist to protect both consumers and environment.

Chertoff has been an effective conduit for the Federalist ideology. Following 9-11, he masterminded the round-up of 1100 Muslim suspects; dumping them in prison without bothering to file charges. None of the suspects were provided with attorneys or allowed to challenge the terms of their detention. Instead they were held in solitary confinement, abused, and either deported or released after secret tribunals. Chertoff effectively rescinded the Bill of Rights to pursue his blinkered witch-hunt. His actions made no one any safer, nor were they intended to. They were designed to show how easily legal protections are eviscerated during a national emergency. Don't think Chertoff and co. haven't monitored the affects of hysteria on public sensibilities. For the Bush team, demagoguery is the primary tenet of good governance.

Months after the illegal detentions, the Justice's Dept's Inspector General harshly criticized the draconian and unproductive steps that Chertoff authorized. The General dismissed the arrests as "indiscriminate and haphazard"; a clear violation of basic human rights and civil liberties. His reprimand was shrugged off by the impervious Chertoff, who later admitted to Congress that he would have done the same thing all over again.

renegade bus (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 3 September 2005 05:38 (twenty years ago)

and who else here thinks nagin knows something he's not supposed to know?

renegade bus (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 3 September 2005 05:38 (twenty years ago)

bad shit is happening, and even more bad shit is coming down

kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Saturday, 3 September 2005 05:39 (twenty years ago)

kingfish otm. very concerned that this is not going to be limited to hurrican affected areas...

my name is john. i reside in chicago. (frankE), Saturday, 3 September 2005 05:46 (twenty years ago)

there was a guy talking about The Bonus Army last week on the Bob Edwards Show on XM, and i can't help remembering it, what happens when a mass group of folks with grievances descend on Washington...

in that particular case, troops wound up shooting at them and burning their shanty town to the ground(deliberately going against Presidential Orders)

kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Saturday, 3 September 2005 05:58 (twenty years ago)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/00/Evictbonusarmy.jpg

renegade bus (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 3 September 2005 06:05 (twenty years ago)

what exactly do you mean, jbr (about nagin)?

jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 3 September 2005 06:05 (twenty years ago)


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