The incredible austerity of D&D in 1980

"the dragon is over there, stupid"

Late great otm

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1430411066/50-shades-of-vorpal

i realized i revived the wrong thread the other day. anyway, i started my first campaign last night with some friends. it was fun! although i'm starting to seriously regret my decision to be a high elf wizard. within 10 minutes of starting, as i was humblebragging in character about how great and noble high elfs are compared to the rest of the party (a gnome, drow, half-elf, and half-orc) i was informed that my wizard was being a total racist

sounds like something an elf would do

i'm hi elf jared fogle

high elf more like a dick elf

speciesist surely

sounds like something an elf would do

see, that's what i thought

speciesist surely

you would think - but they are actually called races in D&D rulebooks

which is probably some holdover from Tolkien

is species based nationalism always frowned upon by benevolent lawful good societies bc of its suggestions of fascism? i'd think in most medieval era societies there's some sort of feudal / monarchy system which, by comparison, would make any populist nationalism seem practically democratic.

i do like the idea tho that all "adventurers" would have some kind of professional empathy with one another that transcended any species elements - a mutual recognition that both share the goblin-slaying trade

ZS u should play your elf like super haughty bc the elvish society is much more ethically advanced than other species and you love + tolerate all creatures not like the primitive heathens you're forced to work w/

lol

do people actually speak in character when playing D&D I don't recall this ever being a thing anybody I played D&D with would tolerate

like, speak in character to each other, that is

ime yes

social justice wizard

the average adventurer party is likely on the hook for a myriad of ethnic cleansings and genocides, particularly among the lowest species of society - the subaltern orcs, goblins + ogres that are already totally alienated from the contemporaneous urban cosmopolitan economy

hundreds of thousands of kobold massacres

well, i realize i kinda fucked up the way i was portraying the character, because he has the Urchin background (grew up on the mean streets with the help of a human) and i made this really generic story that he was abandoned/lost as a small child and didn't grow up in elvin (elvish? elf?) society. so i'd like to call a do-over on the prideful way i was playing him last night and make him more humble and eager to convince other elves he meets to stop being such assholes.

i was trying to defend myself against the accusations of elf racism when someone was like "...wait...aren't you a wizard, too?!"

i think at that point i busted out the mage hand cantrip out of nowhere and was like "hey look at this crazy hand drawing circles in the dust!"

When I dm I do character voices but I kind of don't dig the players doing so, it gets creepy

Inevitable q what edition did u play Karl

i think what i've mostly seen are players speaking in first person from the pov of their character in their normal voices, esp during NPC conversations

Inevitable q what edition did u play Karl

5e

i think what i've mostly seen are players speaking in first person from the pov of their character in their normal voices, esp during NPC conversations

that's pretty much what happened with us

speciesist surely

you would think - but they are actually called races in D&D rulebooks

Mega smh at the term "racial enemy" which they use in the early editions and I can only hope has been changed by now?

Rangers are required to choose one

Sorry young ranger u gotta hate SOMEBODY

When I dm I do character voices but I kind of don't dig the players doing so, it gets creepy

I haven't played since hs but yeah this is my memory of how things went

iirc rangers can pick like spiders tho or wolves which makes the mechanics kinda weirdly progressive in the way they suggest that all living creatures share a category w/ humanoids

That's why they shouldn't call it racial enemy it should be monster enemy or w/e

If species are breeding groups capable of producing fertile offspring then you should be able to test this by seeing whether your half-orc and half-elf are fertile. Make that your first campaign.

Fellowship of the Mule

Karl you should work some secret forbidden orc-love into your character's backstory/persona

Infertility or unexpected fertility could be a product of magic too - lots of species mythologies I think we are supposed to take seriously that involve mad wizards, ambitious gods, spontaneously generation from a pile of rocks, etc

i'd like to call a do-over on the prideful way i was playing him last night and make him more humble and eager to convince other elves he meets to stop being such assholes.

― who is dankey kang (Karl Malone)

no way

double down, make it an insecurity thing. overplays "high" elfishness b/c he knows he so totally isn't like a typical one. so his way of getting into the cool kid's club is by bullying all the uncool kids but the cool kids roll their eyes every time he shows up. and then he cries abt it every night.

"let me help you with your fantasy roleplaying problems" thread... an idea too beautiful to live

if some day an enterprising ilxor decides to GM an RPG campaign over the internet i would be very interested in participating

isn't that what ILM is

ILX the RPG

so his way of getting into the cool kid's club is by bullying all the uncool kids but the cool kids roll their eyes every time he shows up.

why do I hear Steely Dan's "Gaucho" playing in the background

^ stand by my awesome wall-o-text in that thread xp

this is kinda nice, it's free

http://basicfantasy.org/

i haven't used it but roll20.net + skype is supposed to be a good combo

My friend Jason, probably the most RPG-deep guy I know, is into Dungeon World and is actually creating material for it now. IDK much about the system yet,

http://www.tor.com/blogs/2015/03/ranking-all-of-1980s-fantasy

Fantasy films of the 80s

Weird that it omits Hong Kong films. Zu: Warriors from the Magic Mountain is great 80s fantasy.

It is great but maybe it didn't fit the type they wanted to overview. I'm more surprised Hawk The Slayer isn't there.

this is in the wrong thread but GTF no Hawk

It's not that I like it but that ranking includes a lot of poor films that sit comfortably with Hawk The Slayer.