Richard Dawkins - Anti -Christ or Great Thinker?

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lol @ atheist homeland

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 8 October 2007 23:21 (eighteen years ago)

Thing is, Neuroscience is such a primitive branch of biology, that trying to use what we actually KNOW about the brain to explore religious experience is truly a fool's errand, at this point. Sort of like, um, electroshock therapy.

schwantz, Monday, 8 October 2007 23:21 (eighteen years ago)

Yup Id agree the point is we simply dont know. He may well be right but I dont think one needs to be some anti ascience sketpic to see he goes beyond what science can tell us.

Like many natural scientists I dont think hes so sharp on examining his own methodology. I think his certainty here is one of his weaknesses, he has so few self doubts about his own method.

Shakey touched on his understanding of language but any number of philosophical routes could or at least should derail his followers certainty - epistemological debates dont make for great paperbacks.
His lack of intellectual modesty turns me off as much as it clealry turns others on.

Kiwi, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 00:23 (eighteen years ago)

one year passes...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/3255972/Harry-Potter-fails-to-cast-spell-over-Professor-Richard-Dawkins.html

Uncle Shavedlongcock (max), Tuesday, 4 November 2008 17:05 (seventeen years ago)

He really is a useless cunt.

Peter "One Dart" Manley (The stickman from the hilarious 'xkcd' comics), Tuesday, 4 November 2008 17:10 (seventeen years ago)

^^^ Scientific fact.

Good Luck Usa! (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 November 2008 17:12 (seventeen years ago)

Wow. Just WOW

The prominent atheist is stepping down from his post at Oxford University to write a book aimed at youngsters in which he will warn them against believing in "anti-scientific" fairytales.
Prof Hawkins said: "The book I write next year will be a children's book on how to think about the world, science thinking contrasted with mythical thinking.

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Speaking recently at a conference of the Council of Ex-Muslims of Britain, a group of Britons who have renounced Islam, Prof Dawkins said: "Do not ever call a child a Muslim child or a Christian child – that is a form of child abuse because a young child is too young to know what its views are about the cosmos or morality.
"It is evil to describe a child as a Muslim child or a Christian child. I think labelling children is child abuse and I think there is a very heavy issue, for example, about teaching about hell and torturing their minds with hell.
"It's a form of child abuse, even worse than physical child abuse. I wouldn't want to teach a young child, a terrifyingly young child, about hell when he dies, as it's as bad as many forms of physical abuse."

Vichitravirya_XI, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 17:22 (seventeen years ago)

This is also choice:

"I think looking back to my own childhood, the fact that so many of the stories I read allowed the possibility of frogs turning into princes, whether that has a sort of insidious affect on rationality, I'm not sure. Perhaps it's something for research."

Vichitravirya_XI, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 17:23 (seventeen years ago)

I hear he's writing a hard-hitting exposé of Father Christmas at the moment.

Good Luck Usa! (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 November 2008 17:24 (seventeen years ago)

"When you think about how fantastically successful the Jewish lobby has been, though, in fact, they are less numerous I am told - religious Jews anyway - than atheists and [yet they] more or less monopolise American foreign policy as far as many people can see."

^^^classic material

Peter "One Dart" Manley (The stickman from the hilarious 'xkcd' comics), Tuesday, 4 November 2008 17:28 (seventeen years ago)

I can't wait for his channel 4 documentary on Thomas the Tank Engine.

Autobot Lover (jel --), Tuesday, 4 November 2008 17:54 (seventeen years ago)

For someone who supposedly loves science so much he doesn't talk about it half as bloody often as religion/homeopathy/superstition.

, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 18:22 (seventeen years ago)

Well at least he has some common ground with the fundies now.

, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 18:29 (seventeen years ago)

Up to this point Dawkins has been reasonable and correct generally speaking, if kinda dull. This, however, is like tilting at fiction because it's not true. Go nuts, buddy, but can't you really discern any targets of higher priority?

Suggest Bank (libcrypt), Tuesday, 4 November 2008 19:43 (seventeen years ago)

I mean, a better tact if you want to take down the Potter would be to skewer all the adult Potter-lovers who won't read anything above a 6th-grade comprehension level.

Suggest Bank (libcrypt), Tuesday, 4 November 2008 19:46 (seventeen years ago)

yes, if you want to "take down" a children's fantasy series the first thing you should do is attack a strawman

Uncle Shavedlongcock (max), Tuesday, 4 November 2008 20:48 (seventeen years ago)

three months pass...

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Limoncello Carlin (The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 20:23 (seventeen years ago)

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Limoncello Carlin (The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 20:24 (seventeen years ago)

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Courtney Love's Jew Loan Officer (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 20:26 (seventeen years ago)

o shi

special guest stars mark bronson, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 20:28 (seventeen years ago)

A+

nosotros niggamos (HI DERE), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 20:29 (seventeen years ago)

who is this richard dawking

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Peter Andre Test Tube Babies (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 20:47 (seventeen years ago)

lol!

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velko, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 21:06 (seventeen years ago)

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Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 21:14 (seventeen years ago)

seven months pass...

good essay by james wood about dawkins and eagleton in last weeks nyer

fleetwood (max), Friday, 4 September 2009 00:33 (sixteen years ago)

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velko, Friday, 4 September 2009 00:53 (sixteen years ago)

Snippet of the article max mentioned here: http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/books/2009/08/31/090831crbo_books_wood

kshighway, Friday, 4 September 2009 01:05 (sixteen years ago)

That Telegraph interview above is absolutely PRICELESS.

Marco Damiani, Friday, 4 September 2009 10:02 (sixteen years ago)

lol wood v dawkins v eagleton is the real mt douchemore.

wood is a god-botherer iirc. eagleton is a str8 choad. dawkins just learned santa doesn't exist.

history mayne, Friday, 4 September 2009 10:09 (sixteen years ago)

Wood is not a god-botherer. God-worrier maybe. Raised evangelical and then lapsed in his teens, but has never quite got over it. "Ruined choirboy" as one of my old editors once described him.

Stevie T, Friday, 4 September 2009 10:14 (sixteen years ago)

ah, that explains this: "What is needed is neither the overweening rationalism of a Dawkins nor the rarefied religious belief of an Eagleton but a theologically engaged atheism that resembles disappointed belief." ie, what is needed is me, james woods.

joe, Friday, 4 September 2009 10:20 (sixteen years ago)

or wood, even.

joe, Friday, 4 September 2009 10:21 (sixteen years ago)

"dawkins just learned santa doesn't exist"

best dawkins description ever

Marco Damiani, Friday, 4 September 2009 10:22 (sixteen years ago)

eagleton otoh thinks dawkins is naive for presuming santa is a fat man in a red suit.

ledge, Friday, 4 September 2009 10:23 (sixteen years ago)

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one boob is free with one (daavid), Friday, 4 September 2009 17:42 (sixteen years ago)

I can see why it happens, but I'm always disappointed by how the topic of God's existence/nonexistence always turns into a discussion about religion & politics for folks like this.
Keep it simple, guys.

lou reed scott walker monks niagra (chinavision!), Friday, 4 September 2009 17:47 (sixteen years ago)

And wow I missed that whole bit about "de-bunking" Harry Potter above.
Parents don't let your kids watch Star Wars. They'll start to believe in the Force and sound in a vacuum.
Dawkins is just pretty annoying, isn't he?

lou reed scott walker monks niagra (chinavision!), Friday, 4 September 2009 17:57 (sixteen years ago)

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braveclub, Friday, 4 September 2009 18:09 (sixteen years ago)

oops sorry :)

one boob is free with one (daavid), Friday, 4 September 2009 18:19 (sixteen years ago)

one month passes...

Fascist?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECE77Imki9M

StanM, Saturday, 10 October 2009 15:11 (sixteen years ago)

not even close

Jarlrmai, Saturday, 10 October 2009 16:42 (sixteen years ago)

O'Reilly is fucking loon, who's own argument doesn't match the 'logic' he's presenting.

Jarlrmai, Saturday, 10 October 2009 16:42 (sixteen years ago)


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