Come anticipate David Fincher's "Zodiac"

the way that scene puts you in the minds of the victims is really masterful filmmaking, especially when you see him like they must have first seen him, from far away, in the daytime, with his homemade costume and his tool belt and you're like "is this fucking guy serious or what?" and then horrors just keep building.

There's even a great moment of levity in that scene, the way the guy corrects his girlfriend on what his major is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFN4Bb7wcog

I love that first scene with Ruffalo and Edwards at the Paul Stine crime scene, when Ruffalo kind of walks into the middle of street. He's presented with what should be a standard cab robbery/murder, with eyewitnesses and a suspect probably still in the neighborhood, and yet from the very beginning nothing makes sense and he just has this look of befuddled frustration.

You guys are making me take this one off the shelf.

Still amazed at the FX in this. That aforementioned scene, post cab murder ... that making of still blows me away.

I can barely post this enough:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sZS8OVyVr4

There's even a great moment of levity in that scene, the way the guy corrects his girlfriend on what his major is.

― clemenza, Friday, September 19, 2014 7:00 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

weren't they on their first or second date?

everything about that incident is gut wrenching

and yeah fincher is the master at using FX in the most discreet, unspectacular ways. in fact his team pioneered some important aspects of what's now standard workflow on higher-budget films, for which FX is now fully integrated into production from day one, even if the film isn't what we think of as an FX film. i taught girl w/ dragon tattoo for just this aspect of his work.

I'd like to know more about that, are there any good articles or videos online?

He just films everything with a green screen in back, just in case.

I'm pretty good at not watching violent scenes and sensing when they're about to happen, so I haven't seen the lakeside scene but saw the expression on the face of my date watching it. Felt like we'd seen two different movies afterwards.

Fincher knowing the Bay Area so well and having so many emotional ties to its geography seems like a central part of why this works so well.

Every time this thread gets resurrected, I end up watching the film again.

weren't they on their first or second date?

Couldn't have been: early in the clip above, the girls says "We were here last spring, remember?"

IRL hadn't they already broken up and were just hanging out as friends?

and twat

Will he ever make a better movie than this?

I don't know

he has

goddamn me for this latest revive btw

I watched the girl with &c the other day, it was rubbish. So was the Swedish one tho

Will he ever make a better movie than this?

probably not

he's doing Gone Girl which could really go either way, has potential for something interesting but won't rival Zodiac

>:(

Gyllenhaal is apparently in town filming Zodiac 2, a followup to the 2007 Zodiac telling the story of a serial killer who stalked San Francisco residents.

that's a joke, right?

never has the Electric Boogaloo chestnut been more badly needed

zodiac harder

2 Zod 2 Iac

2odiac

'Ac is Back

The Zodiackening

Thread:
https://twitter.com/RealGDT/status/838415427424387072

good stuff. GDT otm

missing this important tweet

Guillermo del Toro‏Verified @RealGDT
Zodiac is a "One Sock Movie" meaning: you're getting dressed- you catch it on TV and sit down (one sock in hand) and watch it until the end.

It's a one sock movie alright. For wankers.

so rong it makes me think you're in on this somehow

it's a one sock movie alright. for transfemoral amputees.

It was just something to say on a Tuesday morning.

But I found this a dull, grey movie.

opening shot alone says no

sorry, pointless argument, something to say on a Tuesday morning

Tuesday morning needs its own thread

That's the spare truth right there

not to come across all cap'n save-a-dullard but i think there is a deliberate dullness to much of the back half of zodiac that contributes hugely to the movie - after the immaculately staged and shot murders at the beginning, the characters start to unravel and get tied up in endless, frustrating miniutiae.

then it's punctuated occasionally with a new zodiac letter or the totally magnetic interview with arthur lee allen, where the cops know they're within inches of getting their guy... and they don't. investigations are tough and boring and sometimes massively exciting and there are very few movies which communicate that as clearly as zodiac does

for real, I think that's all otm and I think it's a great movie but I'm not in the business of selling it to the unconverted

i am - i get a twix every time someone buys a special edition blu-ray on my recommendation

What if I pronounce your username with emphasis on the first syllables, do they still know where to send the twix

I did get that at the time, and def I get that part of the point is to bring us as participants in the frustration and to remove the omniscient view, which is admirable and something that I'd advocate for in plenty of less intelligent efforts.

Interesting that there always seems to be an insistence of repeat viewings for this one, I've seen it repped hard enough by the right people that I might do that.

i get two twixes on those occasions iirc xp

the other thing that i love about zodiac (which yeah i've seen multiple times and i think it does reward repeat viewing) is how effortlessly it lays out a massively complicated case and sticks to the facts about the murders and the investigation. it does take a few liberties with characters here and there iirc, but otherwise it's a masterclass in how to make a movie based on real events.

i'm a sucker for procedural movies tho, i wanted arrival to be like 185 minutes of amy adams writing on a whiteboard

This movie and Thin Red Line are two (relatively) recent masterpieces that yeah I will start watching from any point.

then it's punctuated occasionally with a new zodiac letter or the totally magnetic interview with arthur lee allen, where the cops know they're within inches of getting their guy... and they don't. investigations are tough and boring and sometimes massively exciting and there are very few movies which communicate that as clearly as zodiac does

OTM, this scene is so great. Five and a half minutes of people sitting at a table talking, and it's riveting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5D13q-2I62w

I especially like how he shoots the entire thing in standard masters and alternating shot/reverse shot takes of Allen and each detective, until Allen starts talking about bloody knives, at which point we get three Jonathan Demme-style closeups of each detective staring right into the camera.

There's also a couple of weird moments where he violates the 180-degree line and places Elias Koteas on the "wrong" side of the screen in relation to both Allen and to Edwards/Ruffalo.