Hello dere
― Code Money Changes Everything (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 19 September 2014 22:47 (eleven years ago)
spent the evening perusing the works of shinichi mochizuki
http://cdn.tokyotimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/abc-conjecture-300x2001.jpg
― the late great, Saturday, 20 September 2014 07:18 (eleven years ago)
http://www.heidelberg-laureate-forum.org/de/laureate/alexander-grothendieck/
dudes
― j., Sunday, 21 September 2014 14:30 (eleven years ago)
Wow.
But what about his prime?
― Code Money Changes Everything (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 21 September 2014 15:22 (eleven years ago)
Who Is Alexander Grothendieck?
― Code Money Changes Everything (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 21 September 2014 15:25 (eleven years ago)
^must read
― Code Money Changes Everything (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 21 September 2014 15:29 (eleven years ago)
Also: http://www.ams.org/notices/200409/fea-grothendieck-part1.pdf
http://www.kurims.kyoto-u.ac.jp/~motizuki/top-english.html
http://projectwordsworth.com/the-paradox-of-the-proof/
^^ more than a year old, sorry
― the late great, Sunday, 21 September 2014 21:17 (eleven years ago)
Interesting.
Keep meaning to post this:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chh78JcKfoA
― Dear Catastrophe Theory Waitress (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 27 September 2014 01:31 (eleven years ago)
Here are two Dover books I found quite useful and readable:
Advanced Calculus, by David V. WidderIntroduction to Partial Differential Equations with Applications, by E. C. Zachmanoglou, Dale W. ThoeMathematics of Classical and Quantum Physics by Frederick W. Byron, Jr. and Robert W. Fuller
And here are some Springer-Verlag Undergraduate Texts in Mathematics that I found readable and useful:Finite-Dimensional Vector Spaces, by Paul R. HalmosLinear Algebra: An Introduction to Abstract Mathematics, by Robert J. ValenzaGroups and Symmetry, by M.A. ArmstrongBasic Topology, by M.A. Armstrong
― Dear Catastrophe Theory Waitress (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 27 September 2014 14:06 (eleven years ago)
Add to the latter listTransformation Geometry: An Introduction to Symmetry, by George E. Martin
Wow, I guess these Springer Undergraduate books cost almost twice as much as when I bought them. Guess I shouldn't be surprised.
― Dear Catastrophe Theory Waitress (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 27 September 2014 14:13 (eleven years ago)
Much discussion about whether this is actually a 2014 photo of Grothendieck but general feeling seems to be yes:
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 27 September 2014 14:17 (eleven years ago)
Is he going to be part of an upcoming Os Mutantes reunion in that getup?
― Dear Catastrophe Theory Waitress (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 27 September 2014 14:23 (eleven years ago)
Oh, I get it, those are his monastic vestments.
someone explain the monty hall problem to me please. i just read this
http://mathforum.org/dr.math/faq/faq.monty.hall.html
and it SORT of made sense, but at the bottom the guy gives an example of a 1000-door problem, saying that if monty shows 998 goats, your chance of finding the car out of the final 2 doors is 999/1000 if you switch. this just seems like it cannot be right. doesn't that assume that monty has no knowledge of where the car is?
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 1 October 2014 03:05 (eleven years ago)
wait i think i get it now
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 1 October 2014 03:21 (eleven years ago)
Monty does know.
― The "5" Astronomer Royales (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 03:25 (eleven years ago)
it's not a 50/50 at the end because you still have the 1/1000 chance of guessing right originally. since the host shows you 998 goats, the remaining door HAS to have the car if you didn't guess right at the beginning. and the odds of you not guessing right at the beginning are 999/1000
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 1 October 2014 03:26 (eleven years ago)
that was fun
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 1 October 2014 03:30 (eleven years ago)
You got it
― The "5" Astronomer Royales (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 03:47 (eleven years ago)
I just tried to write out a game-theoretic interpretation, and then I tried to apply Bayes' theorem, but I got stuck on both of those.
― Spirit of Match Game '76 (silby), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 04:04 (eleven years ago)
but yeah rly the answer is "because Bayes' theorem is true"
you got it anyway though, hooray!
monty hall is deep and subtle
― the late great, Wednesday, 1 October 2014 04:05 (eleven years ago)
this, basically http://formalisedthinking.wordpress.com/2010/10/05/bayes-theorem-and-the-monty-hall-problem/
― Spirit of Match Game '76 (silby), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 04:06 (eleven years ago)
Also, philosophically speaking, the Monty Hall problem concerns an observation selection effect, which gets into all kinds of wooly things like the doomsday problem, I read part of this guy's book. http://www.anthropic-principle.com/
― Spirit of Match Game '76 (silby), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 04:07 (eleven years ago)
the weirdos over on LessWrong probably eat that stuff up
― Spirit of Match Game '76 (silby), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 04:08 (eleven years ago)
Really the best way to understand it is to increase the number of doors like you did. Some people use a deck of cards- you pick one, then the dealer flips over fifty of the remaining fifty-one.
Assumptions underlying rules of probability are subtle- recently read an article called "Mistakes in Probability," I think, about how the founding fathers of the subject- mathematical giants!- pretty much all made various errors in one fashion or another.
― The "5" Astronomer Royales (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 04:10 (eleven years ago)
"Errors of Probability in Historical Context," by Prakash Gorroochurn.I found it in The Best Writing on Mathematics 2013, which series I recommend to you, any year you can find.
― The "5" Astronomer Royales (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 04:20 (eleven years ago)
He wrote a book too. Looks nice. Expensive though.
― The "5" Astronomer Royales (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 04:32 (eleven years ago)
doesn't that assume that monty has no knowledge of where the car is?
I think it's the opposite. It seems to me there's an implicit assumption that Monty does know where the car is, and it's part of his regular routine to open a door and show a goat, regardless of which door you pick. For instance if it was Monty's policy to only show you a goat if you had picked the correct door on your first try, then it would be a bad idea to switch, right? Or if some random guy walks into the studio with no knowledge of anything and opens a random door, and there's a goat behind it, there isn't any advantage of switching either, right?
― o. nate, Friday, 3 October 2014 01:34 (eleven years ago)
yeah Monty and his knowledge are a red herring, what matters is that you see a goat behind a door, allowing to update your prior probabilities about which door hid what.
― Spirit of Match Game '76 (silby), Friday, 3 October 2014 02:14 (eleven years ago)
That's not what the link you linked upthread said:
the information is given by the fact that he cannot open the winning door
i.e., he must know which door is the winning one in order to avoid opening it.
― o. nate, Friday, 3 October 2014 02:55 (eleven years ago)
practically he has to know which door is the winning one or else the whole point is lost
― k3vin k., Friday, 3 October 2014 02:57 (eleven years ago)
Oh crap I lied. Yeah this whole thing is not intuitive at all. And not really in my wheelhouse, I should leave it to others.
― Spirit of Match Game '76 (silby), Friday, 3 October 2014 03:03 (eleven years ago)
Yeah, Monty's knowledge is crucial. The thing the problem forces you to realize is that the, um, equipartition of probability one might consider "intuitive" is actually an assumption you make that should be overridden if and when you have new or other relevant data. That's why they always specify a fair die in certain problems, whereas in real life, you might want to consider the probably that the die has been rigged, but then that's too complicated for a homework problem.
A related implicit assumption you might need to be aware of is whether two events are to be considered independent or not. Or to go way, out there, they way in statistical mechanics particles are considered to be indistinguishable in such a way that changes the way one would have thought the distribution should be calculated.
― The "5" Astronomer Royales (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 3 October 2014 03:17 (eleven years ago)
Do u see?
― The "5" Astronomer Royales (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 3 October 2014 03:31 (eleven years ago)
It seems like the Monty Hall problem is a good example of how cultural context gets smuggled into something that is superficially a pure math problem. It shows how there could be cultural bias in something as apparently objective as the math section of a standardized test.
― o. nate, Friday, 3 October 2014 03:43 (eleven years ago)
Recent NY Times article about Bayesian statistics featured the Monty Hall problem.
― You Better Go Ahn (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 6 October 2014 10:59 (eleven years ago)
Yes - Bostrom's big projects – the Oxford future of humanity/Martin school set-up, the book on Global Catastrophic risks he edited – have contributions from Eliezer Yudkowsky who founded LW.
― woof, Monday, 6 October 2014 11:12 (eleven years ago)
so here's a problem i'm struggling with
a man has three coins. two are made of gold and one is from a foreign land. if we choose one at random, what is the probability that it is a gold coin from a foreign land.
one might say: 2/3 * 1/3 = 2/9
or one might say: either 1/3 or 0 but definitely not 2/9.
who is right?
― the late great, Thursday, 9 October 2014 07:19 (eleven years ago)
anyone?
― the late great, Thursday, 9 October 2014 16:53 (eleven years ago)
― You Better Go Ahn (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, October 6, 2014 6:59 AM (3 days ago)
yeah this is where i got it from
― k3vin k., Thursday, 9 October 2014 17:06 (eleven years ago)
― the late great, Thursday, October 9, 2014 3:19 AM (9 hours ago)
i guess if you accept that the foreign coin either is or is not gold, then it's either 1/3 or 0
― k3vin k., Thursday, 9 October 2014 17:08 (eleven years ago)
but not knowing that i guess it's 2/9. both could be right depending on how much info you have?
― k3vin k., Thursday, 9 October 2014 17:13 (eleven years ago)
i am probably wrong about this, but here's how i'm thinking about it:
you have two gold coins and one non-gold coin. the chance that the foreign coin is also a gold coin is therefore 2/3. you then pick one of the three coins. so 2/3 * 1/3 = 2/9.
― example (crüt), Thursday, 9 October 2014 17:16 (eleven years ago)
"1/3 or 0" yes but it's not a 50-50 chance between those two, is the thing.
― example (crüt), Thursday, 9 October 2014 17:17 (eleven years ago)
i am leaning strongly toward ⅓ or 0
problem i have is with this
the chance that the foreign coin is also a gold coin is therefore 2/3
not sure about this
― the late great, Thursday, 9 October 2014 17:43 (eleven years ago)
i am a realist, and i "know" (?) that if you did this experiment IRL three million times you would get a gold foreign coin either 0 times or approximately a million times, but not approximately 444,000 times
― the late great, Thursday, 9 October 2014 17:45 (eleven years ago)
surely it is possible to aggregate those permutations?
― the final twilight of all evaluative standpoints (nakhchivan), Thursday, 9 October 2014 17:47 (eleven years ago)