i loved the pilot. i will watch this show faithfully.
― Mordy, Monday, 15 September 2014 15:52 (ten years ago) link
http://www.salon.com/2014/09/15/whit_stillman_if_racism_is_not_socially_acceptable_why_is_class_prejudice/
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 September 2014 16:26 (ten years ago) link
Trying to imagine what a Stillman-authored ep of Sanford & Son would look like.
― You and Dad's Army? (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 15 September 2014 18:43 (ten years ago) link
It’s a problem, of course, because I think racism is not acceptable, but having class prejudice, people can pat themselves on the back for. It’s reverse class prejudice. Millions of people have been killed for being bourgeois. Should there be consciousness about that? How much of the hatred of anti-Semitism was a class thing, because the Jews of Germany were successful economically? Categorizing people economically and hating them because you think they’re this way is a prejudice.
:/ :\
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Monday, 15 September 2014 18:55 (ten years ago) link
Millions of people have been killed for being bourgeois.
if Whit's keeping score he seems to have missed a salient point here
― Daphnis Celesta, Monday, 15 September 2014 20:45 (ten years ago) link
“They’re not embarrassed about being prejudiced if they’re being prejudiced upward,” Stillman said. “You should be embarrassed if you’re bigoted, no matter which way the bigotry runs.”
lol this guy
― Οὖτις, Monday, 15 September 2014 20:58 (ten years ago) link
How much of the hatred of anti-Semitism was a class thing, because the Jews of Germany were successful economically?
and this man I can't even
― Οὖτις, Monday, 15 September 2014 20:59 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wveW9Tw2JKE
― Daphnis Celesta, Monday, 15 September 2014 21:00 (ten years ago) link
I've only seen one of his movies
I am completely unsurprised by that pullquote
― 龜, Monday, 15 September 2014 21:04 (ten years ago) link
i love his films and the dialogue of his characters
i don't have a lot invested in either his political or historical opinions
― Mordy, Monday, 15 September 2014 21:06 (ten years ago) link
I like the movies I've seen (Metropolitan and the Last Days of Disco) okay, he does write funny dialogue
but yeah this is totally unsurprising
― Οὖτις, Monday, 15 September 2014 21:17 (ten years ago) link
He's always been a relatively conservative guy fighting for the rights of the rich. That's what Metropolitan is all about! It mourns the tragic passing of American aristocracy. Doesn't mean I don't love it, though.
― Insane Prince of False Binaries (Gukbe), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 03:02 (ten years ago) link
Although it's not the point he's making necessarily, I do think that the wealthy have a perspective and stories to tell etc..., and that a film or show or whatnot is not intrinsically bad because it's about the problems of people of the upper class.
― Insane Prince of False Binaries (Gukbe), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 03:03 (ten years ago) link
The Surrealists were just a buncha social climbers.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 03:04 (ten years ago) link
I think he had a point when he was talking about people just lazily assuming the characters are "aimless" because they're shown in a single day of leisure.
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 03:06 (ten years ago) link
for a "smart" guy whit stillman is awfully dumb
― I dunno. (amateurist), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 03:12 (ten years ago) link
unless he's aspiring to lars van trier-like levels of trolling
― I dunno. (amateurist), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 03:13 (ten years ago) link
I do think that the wealthy have a perspective and stories to tell etc..., and that a film or show or whatnot is not intrinsically bad because it's about the problems of people of the upper class.
yes, sure, absolutely. the interview is silly because the aristocracy shd never whine.
― Daphnis Celesta, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 06:11 (ten years ago) link
still witless
― socki (s1ocki), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 18:21 (ten years ago) link
all whit, no wit
― I dunno. (amateurist), Friday, 19 September 2014 05:43 (ten years ago) link
TBF I enjoyed Metropolitan (which is what I watched) but on the whole it was like a John Hughes movie with less humor and slapstick
― 龜, Friday, 19 September 2014 11:44 (ten years ago) link
whoa
― imago, Friday, 19 September 2014 11:47 (ten years ago) link
anyway this episode is basically redolent of john irving losing it at the rich being discriminated against. good artists can say dumb things when fighting perceived inverse discrimination
― imago, Friday, 19 September 2014 11:48 (ten years ago) link
anyone who's ever paid attention to his movies can not possibly be surprised by this
― socki (s1ocki), Friday, 19 September 2014 14:03 (ten years ago) link
his movies, tbf, while set in bourgie milieux, are more imo about universals of fellowship & empathy, and espouse what is often a subversively surreal methodology
― imago, Friday, 19 September 2014 14:18 (ten years ago) link
this is coming from someone with a hair-trigger response to unexamined bourgie presumptuousness
― imago, Friday, 19 September 2014 14:20 (ten years ago) link
for reasons of lamentable overexposure obv before u all start zinging
*doesn't comment*
― socki (s1ocki), Friday, 19 September 2014 16:36 (ten years ago) link
Amazon orders scripts, not episodes for Cosmopolitans
― You and Dad's Army? (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 06:32 (nine years ago) link
I've made it deeper into Cosmopolitans than I did Metropolitan, but I think that might just be that I like Chloe Sevigny and the guy from the OC. Still kind of awful.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Friday, 10 October 2014 23:35 (nine years ago) link
Just saw Taylor Nichols on an ep of Newsradio playing the representative from Rocket Fuel Malt Liquor.
― Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 13 October 2014 02:37 (nine years ago) link
adapting Jane Austen’s Lady Susan as Love and Friendship, with Kate Beckinsale and Chloë Sevigny:
“Beckinsale will portray the widow Lady Susan Vernon, who has come to the estate of her in-laws to wait out rumors about her dalliances circulating through polite society. She decides to secure a husband for herself and her rather reluctant debutante daughter. The cast includes Xavier Samuel and Stephen Fry, the long-suffering husband to Lady Susan’s friend and confidante, portrayed by Sevigny. Filming begins in Ireland this month.”
http://variety.com/2015/film/news/kate-beckinsale-chloe-sevigny-reunite-in-love-and-friendship-1201421435/
― touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Monday, 2 February 2015 21:36 (nine years ago) link
zzzzzzz
― I dunno. (amateurist), Tuesday, 3 February 2015 00:54 (nine years ago) link
WELL!
Stillman doing a Jane Austen... next thing Tarantino will be doing a snuff film and Chris Nolan a 3D IMAX adap of the phone book.
― touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 3 February 2015 02:00 (nine years ago) link
yeah, white on white, so to speak.
― I dunno. (amateurist), Tuesday, 3 February 2015 15:32 (nine years ago) link
Perhaps he should have challenged himself by adapting and filming criticism of Jane Austen instead.
― Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 3 February 2015 16:55 (nine years ago) link
https://mobile.twitter.com/WhitStillman/status/649332929194233858
― Love, Wilco (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 3 October 2015 22:05 (eight years ago) link
https://www.criterion.com/films/28691-barcelona
― "Damn the Taquitos" (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 15 January 2016 22:53 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MaSK3POHI0
get hype motherfuckers
― adam, Wednesday, 23 March 2016 19:30 (eight years ago) link
beckinsale 4ever
― scott seward, Wednesday, 23 March 2016 19:56 (eight years ago) link
The Last Days of Disco prequel we always wanted.
― Now I Know How Joan of Arcadia Felt (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 23 March 2016 19:58 (eight years ago) link
I don't see Chris Eigemann in there anywhere. I don't know about this.
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, 23 March 2016 20:04 (eight years ago) link
stephen fry :(
― conrad, Wednesday, 23 March 2016 20:22 (eight years ago) link
Stilton doing an Austen riff in period-appropriate drag feels a bit too on the nose to me, as his films were already covert Austen adaptations.
This does remind me, though, that I still need to see Damsels in Distress.
― rhymes with "blondie blast" (cryptosicko), Thursday, 24 March 2016 02:22 (eight years ago) link
*Stillman
― rhymes with "blondie blast" (cryptosicko), Thursday, 24 March 2016 02:23 (eight years ago) link
stillman's really scraping the bottom of the austen barrel here.
beckinsale 4ever― scott seward, Wednesday, March 23, 2016 2:56 PM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
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someone on ILX once expressed a postulate that as the movies she was in got more and more lowbrow, kate beckinsale got hotter and hotter. wonder how this film reflects that.
― wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 24 March 2016 02:48 (eight years ago) link
someone should re-score that trailer to li'l jon
― wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 24 March 2016 02:49 (eight years ago) link
Love & Friendship was really wonderful!
― sexy dander (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 23 May 2016 00:09 (eight years ago) link
A Thread for Whit Stillman's "Love & Friendship"
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 May 2016 00:11 (eight years ago) link
I finally saw DAMSELS IN DISTRESS.
Naturally it is quite good, maybe it's even very good compared to other films? - but I couldn't really it was that good compared to other WS films, which is a high standard.
It was possibly a bit too light for its own good. Or are they all pretty much equally light?
The incidental music seemed too intrusive and repetitive. The whole film seemed somewhat cheap. But then METROPOLITAN looks cheap, at least once you've watched the director's commentary, and is one of my favourite films of all.
I think if I had seen it in a cinema full of WS fans (which I didn't), it would have made me laugh along with them.
The above are probably standard views. Here is one slightly newer thought:
Has anyone remarked on how its musical ending pre-empts LA LA LAND?
― the pinefox, Monday, 17 April 2017 23:01 (seven years ago) link