THE LEFTOVERS: HBO's nondenominational post-rapture series

Probably the best prism through which to view the show: http://www.vox.com/2014/9/7/6116687/leftovers-depression-hbo

That's true, and the backstory episode was my favorite of the season. I don't really want a big explanation, I would just to feel like the characters themselves know wtf is going on, and after the finale I have this sinking feeling that the GR circumspection (which yes is appealing) is just the writers' proxy cluelessness. For example, maybe I'm thick but I still can't square away why Patti would brutally murder one of her own (lady tied to tree)—that's not a big crazy question, it's just a mechanical plot thing that for me at least was insufficiently explained and comes off more like it was thrown at the wall for effect.

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"I hear season 2 is all new cast and new global cataclysm to mope about"

what? or is that a True Detective joke?

meh this is just L O S T except with mysterious deer instead of mysterious polar bears

tbf the mysterious deer that wrecks houses is more like the mysterious boar that wrecks the camp than like the polar bears

fine fine but the flashbacks to LIFE BEFORE are exactly like the flashbacks to LIFE BEFORE

loved the nina at the beginning

ok finished this, was a good ending, not sure what in the world they will do with next season. focus on different people?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bZVUU3zbXk

new season makes Eccleston and Coon regulars while greatly shrinking the supporting cast. I'll be shocked if it's not considerably improved (and I liked s1 a lot)

i'm rewatching the first season right now, which i adore.

indications seem to be that this season will be less relentlessly bleak and more weird - basically going to a new town, one where not a single departure occurred

will there be less justin theroux hot cop

if so i will be deeply, deeply disappointed

gotta say tho i'm legit weirded out by the amount of smiling in the promo photos, it's SO WEIRD, HOW DOES JILL EVEN UNDERSTAND SMILING
http://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/stg.ign.com/2015/07/LEF1tumblr_nsbu2pGjpm1qz8vumo1_540.jpg

xp he's still the lead!

he's not in the teaser, i am right to be concerned

fear not
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i don't think he's a cop anymore though

I think this show learned from all the mistakes of Lost, which is, just relish in the weird, there doesn't need to be an answer for everything, this is the situation, here is how people are dealing.

Yeah, though part of the point of season 1 was that everyone was incredibly depressed because there was no answer to what had happened... I think The Leftovers is very aware of the human need for answers. That's what makes the whole thing so depressing.

Also: I love this show, and it really made me think that Lindelof might be the smart one, and that he was just hamstrung on Lost. Then I saw Prometheus...

Yeah, Lost was a real cautionary tale in that respect. It insisted that everything would be explained but (a) lots of things weren't and (b) the explanations that were delivered were annoying. Maybe that was a pendulum swing away from Twin Peaks and now it's swung back. The fact that Lindelof himself is part of that swing just adds another layer to his endless psychodrama over the fallout from the Lost finale. I swear his therapist is sick of hearing about it. "Time to move on, Damon. It's OK. Everybody's mad at True Detective now."

It's just entertainment. On TV.

Yeah dont go crowning Lindelof over this. This is the exception that proves the rule. He's still not to be trusted in any way shape or form.

Plus this hasnt ended yet. Theres still plenty of time to Lindelof it.

also wasn't season one mostly adaptation while going forward its all original material? harder to fuck it up when you've got a blueprint.

re: season 1, the basic situation/plot/characters are the novel's, but the emotional tone and much of what happens to the characters is new stuff written by lindelof and perrota

iirc perotta is still around in the writer's room, and it could be he's a good influence on lindelof

also man oh man almost six years later and no one's over the freakin' contents of that church at the end of LOST, dizamn

I mean, I'm mostly kidding bc I understand how that ending was frustrating (it was w/e to me, not great but about as competently executed as could be expected given how much it had sprawled? disregarding, momentarily, the question of whether it should have sprawled like that in the first place)

overall though I think lindelof is one of the better forces for speculative fiction (in TV and lesser extent in film) we have, which might stem from the fact that we have so few but he's ambitious and versatile and devoted to character and weird atmosphere.

fp'd u for that tbh

i'm sayin, no chill to be had over that ish

I agree that Lindelof's strength is in sustaining a compelling mood/tone, and hopefully Perotta's influence will keep his other, more annoying tendencies in check.

full trailer http://www.ew.com/article/2015/08/04/leftovers-season-2-trailer?hootPostID=2e93d452a3a05a5c7cbb2ff55d66de66

Showrunner Damon Lindelof has said the new season will have a stronger “narrative engine” compared to the more meditative first season.

hmmmmmm

narrative engine powered by polar bear pushing a wheel

we have to get to the cabin

is everyone returning for season 2? liv tyler?

they're getting rid of quite a few of the supporting cast but Liv is in the trailer

new reviews are largely glowing, incl. a few by people who were not necessarily high on the first season

premieres sunday night, and i mean it's not like this week's SNF is gonna be good so c'mon y'all

I've heard that all the episodes are going to be like those couple of one-character point of view ones they did in the first season, as those were the most well liked.

also the GR is pretty much gone now

remind me what the GR is

guilty remnant

oh yeah thx

ok the combo of the new intro plus that prologue this week was amazing

yeah loved this premiere.

I think this show learned from all the mistakes of Lost, which is, just relish in the weird, there doesn't need to be an answer for everything

I lol'd when I noticed that this sentiment is baked right into the show's new theme song

the bbq scene was great

I'm honestly not sure if I liked it. It was audacious, and brave, and well done, but... I really really loved season 1, why did they change everything?

It reminds me a bit of Hannibal season 2. First seasons just emotionally hit a perfect spot, and ended absolutely as good as they could. And I know, that there was no reason in repeating that, and that that would just be diminishing returns, and that I should just rewatch seasons one if I want to. But I still sorta just want more of the same...

well, it's changed because there's no book to base it on now, so it's gotta go somewhere.

Sure. Still, this would never have happened if it was on Showtime.

I am gonna spend the next little while chuckling and imagining the Showtime version of this show