Ongoing U.S Police Brutality and Corruption Discussion Thread

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/attorney-east-point-police-used-taser-against-man-/ng9RG/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/30/daniel-holtzclaw-cop-rape_n_5740714.html

the cops here are open-minded enough to kill white people too:
http://host.madison.com/news/local/crime_and_courts/newly-released-police-records-shed-additional-light-on-paul-heenan/article_315e18ac-82e0-11e2-b277-0019bb2963f4.html

this was a couple years back, but it was a block and a half from my house, lots of my friends knew the victim (he was a musician), etc.

the cop was cleared of any wrongdoing for the shooting but fired for other reasons (yeah, ok), but i believe that external investigations into police shootings are now required in WI due to the efforts of his friends & family.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/die-hard-director-john-mctiernan-731171

damn

boy with toy sword shot from behind

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/race-utah-police-shooting

I saw that, horrifically sad

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/58409680-78/hunt-family-police-sword.html.csp

Multiple witnesses say he was running away AND an independent autopsy report found that he was shot in the back

Direct contradictions of the police officer's report that he 'lunged' at the officer

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-utah-police-shooting-20140914-story.html

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/crime/blog/bs-md-ci-police-suit-20140915,0,6933088.story

It seems to me that police doctrine is that the instant you are suspected of unlawful behavior, you are presumed to be dangerous and are fair game for any amount of force to be used against you, with the idea that it is far better that you are killed or wounded than any police officer ever be hurt. This doctrine goes back a very long time in the USA, but the difference now is that it has become officially recognized and codified by the legal system and courts.

It apparently does not matter whether the suspicion is justified or not. It apparently does not matter whether you present any clear or present danger by your actions. So long as the officer "felt threatened", any amount of force is justified to nullify that imagined threat. In practice, this, of course, nullifies the entire concept of "excessive force".

Autopsy report shows police shot Darrien Hunt in the back, lawyer says

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/darrien-hunt-carrying-toy-sword-shot-and-killed-utah-police

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/16/darrien-hunt-shot-in-the-back-by-utah-police-says-family-attorney

“We haven’t even interviewed the officers yet,” said Taylor. “We’ve talked briefly with them just to kind of get an idea of what the scene was at the time.” He said officers were typically interviewed within 48-72 hours of a shooting. One is now scheduled to be interviewed on Tuesday and the other on Thursday, more than a week after the shooting, he said.

“I’m stunned. I find that almost incomprehensible,” Edwards, the attorney for Hunt’s family, said after being informed of this by the Guardian. “You want to speak with the officers almost immediately afterwards, when their memories are fresh and before they have had a chance to corroborate their stories.”

"just to kind of get an idea of what the scene was at the time"

Just, you know, see how their day was goin' 'n' stuff.

“You want to speak with the officers almost immediately afterwards, when their memories are fresh and before they have had a chance to corroborate their stories.”

This assumes that "you" are interested in the truth.

http://gawker.com/nypd-officer-filmed-slamming-pregnant-woman-to-ground-1638487177

An NYPD officer was filmed violently throwing a pregnant woman to ground early Saturday morning. Sandra Amezquita, who is five months pregnant, reportedly suffered vaginal bleeding after the incident, and her arms and stomach remain bruised.

The two officers who shot and killed John Crawford were not indicted

That is fucking insane.

jesus christ that fucking gawker clip possibly the most disturbing thing I've seen in awhile

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/d97584cfd10d48b5a3ea366850f4f06d/woman-punched-california-highway-patrol-settles

holy crap

http://gawker.com/trigger-happy-cop-shoots-unarmed-driver-in-just-release-1638993749

dude in that last video is the most polite assault victim i've ever heard; how the hell do you maintain the patience to call the man who just shot you sir and apologize to him

Easy: You are black and he is white.

christ, do these cops get any training at all?

“Why did you pull me over? I was just pulled into the gas station.”
“Your safety belt violation, sir.”
“Seatbelt… I just pulled it off right there at the corner at the gas station!”

arrested:

http://boingboing.net/2014/09/25/south-carolina-cop-who-shot-bl.html

would not have happened w/o dashboard video

dude in that last video is the most polite assault victim i've ever heard; how the hell do you maintain the patience to call the man who just shot you sir and apologize to him

I don't know if I can articulate why this post enrages me so much. How many times black people must tell stories about their survival strategies for existing in America before you start listening and understanding what they mean?

d, if you're not reading that post with a sense of headshaking wonder, shock and sadness at what the police state demands out of black american men then you are misreading the intention

"american police state" / "black men" rather

I dunno forks, your post also struck me as tone deaf

And maybe your response shouldn't be "become a better reader"

my response was "you misunderstood my intention"

And my response is you miswrote your intention

I had no trouble understanding forks' intent. He knew why the black victim of police assault was so polite, but was at a loss to fathom how he managed it.

i can certainly see how that can read differently than it was intended and, if taken as "gosh that guy sure is subservient why wouldn't he be more angry" as opposed to "the degree of restraint he shows under literal fire is fucking superhuman" is good grounds for enragement

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/30/ernest-satterwhite-just-craven_n_5907544.html

Even when the prosecutor seeks a felony indictment...

this thread is like pure undiluted rage-a-hol

yup

TS: pure undiluted rage-a-hol vs a reminder that a capricious, unpredictable death sentence lurks for you and every member of your family as long as you stay in this country

worst poll ever

I know which side I'm on and which side dan's on and mine is by far the easier side to live on.

I'm not disputing that

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/01/michael-dunn-guilty_n_5913926.html

Some good news - Michael Dunn, who killed Jordan Davis at a gas station for playing loud music, was convicted of first degree murder

v gratifying

not a cop tho

Well, shit

http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/wayne/2014/10/03/weekley-trial-aiyana-stanley-jones/16636179

A Detroit police officer accused in the fatal shooting of 7-year-old Aiyana Stanley-Jones walked into a Detroit courtroom Friday facing a felony and misdemeanor charge.

Officer Joseph Weekley walked out of the courtroom with just the misdemeanor charge after Wayne County Circuit Judge Cynthia Gray Hathaway dismissed the involuntary manslaughter charge against him. Weekley still is charged with careless discharge of a firearm causing death in the May 2010 shooting, which happened as police executed a search warrant for a murder suspect.

http://gawker.com/nypd-thugs-caught-on-video-pistol-whipping-teen-with-ha-1643271317

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/family-sues-hammond-police-over-traffic-stop-violence

In cell phone video captured by a terrified 14-year-old sitting in the back seat of Mahone’s car, you can hear Mahone on the line with a 911 operator saying that she fears for her life and that moments earlier officers had pulled their guns on the couple.

http://abc11.com/340724

The parents of a Wake County high school student are outraged that police pepper-sprayed him inside their home after a neighbor mistook him for an intruder.

The video of that is absolutely horrifying xp

Some posts about this in the Michael Brown thread:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/10/09/crowds-in-streets-of-st-louis-after-fatal-shooting-by-off-duty-police-officer/

Meanwhile...

http://brooklynpaper.com/stories/37/41/dtg-police-beats-teen-2014-10-10-bk_37_41.html

A police officer apparently knocked out a Clinton Hill teen with one blow after stopping him for smoking a cigarette, hitting him so hard he now has neurological problems, according to the boy’s family.

Teens kicking a cop's ass after he attacks a young protester.

https://bsky.app/profile/thedoorokc.bsky.social/post/3mfflceeohk27

Small beans compared to most stories in this thread, but registering a complaint that it's absolutely insane that one Chicago cop gets killed and the entire north side of the city shuts down for two days, the main N-S thoroughfare gets closed at 5:45 am before rush hour (despite notifications sent out that road closures will start at 9 am) and millions in taxpayer dollars are spent flexing a show of force.

Defund cop funerals.

Small beans compared to most stories in this thread, but registering a complaint that it's absolutely insane that one Chicago cop gets killed and the entire north side of the city shuts down for two days, the main N-S thoroughfare gets closed at 5:45 am before rush hour (despite notifications sent out that road closures will start at 9 am) and millions in taxpayer dollars are spent flexing a show of force.

Defund cop funerals.

The hagiography around policing as "dangerous" is so deeply and stupidly propagandistic and shows what our society's real values are. Every few years I look up the stats for dangerous professions again, and I was validated by reading in my current book of the week: "Data from the US Bureau of Labor, for example, show that refuse and recyclable material collectors are three times more likely to die on the job than are police officers." (US Bureau of Labor 2019, see also like 3 more citations) (Discard Studies, by Max Liboiron and Josh Lepawsky, if anyone is intersted. It's genuinely such a good read.)

Get back to me when we have a parade for sanitation workers, who do like 1000x more to make our world safe for human life than policing does.

otmfm

Most of the danger to police comes from the sheer number of miles they log driving.

YES. If you care about making policing safer, make them DRIVE LESS!

I think you’re wrong there// you want them to drive more so more of them die

I mean I wouldn't care but they hit other people. Police vehicle pursuits are supposed to be prohibited in NYC but they still happen and they hit people and/or cause the drivers to crash with murderous results. And, to the extent that we're talking about officers on the shoulders of the highway being hit by other drivers, I wouldn't wish that on anyone in the other car. Except another officer, I guess.

A tiny bit of good news -- Anjanette Young, the social worker who endured a wrongful no-knock warrant that left her handcuffed, naked, and on camera, is now a member of a police oversight board. That's right!

An interview with her: https://www.wbez.org/in-the-loop-with-sasha-ann-simons/2026/04/28/seven-years-after-cpd-wrongfully-raided-her-home-anjanette-young-is-moving-past-the-pain

I mean I wouldn't care but they hit other people. Police vehicle pursuits are supposed to be prohibited in NYC but they still happen and they hit people and/or cause the drivers to crash with murderous results. And, to the extent that we're talking about officers on the shoulders of the highway being hit by other drivers, I wouldn't wish that on anyone in the other car. Except another officer, I guess.

Yeah, i was being slightly facetious.

https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/canoga-park-dog-shot-lapd/3904768/

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