Sopranos

Dominic Chianese starred in a Woody Allen play in '04 (one I never saw or read):

http://www.playbill.com/news/article/87907-Michael-McKean-Dominic-Chianese-Martha-Plimpton-Star-in-Woody-Allens-Memory-This-Fall

basically, it could be his way of saying "it's not the point."

― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), woensdag 27 augustus 2014 17:44 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Bingo: David Chase: “Sopranos” piece on Vox “is inaccurate,” “not true”

http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2014/08/27/david_chase_vox_article_the_sopranos_showrunner_responds_to_tony_soprano.html

^^^ i hate this guy

of course he dies... eventually

― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, August 27, 2014 12:07 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

(when is a detail)

― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, August 27, 2014 12:07 PM (Yesterday)

this is otm. tony doesn't die onscreen, so he's technically alive at the end of the show. but he might die in 5 minutes, or it might be 5 years. i think one of the points of the show is that living that life will eventually have consequences for you and the people you love. he can't escape it

And seeing him get shot would be to bring an end to that anxiety, but instead it ends with that ongoing anxiety itself.

this is otm. tony doesn't die onscreen, so he's technically alive at the end of the show. but he might die in 5 minutes, or it might be 5 years. i think one of the points of the show is that living that life will eventually have consequences for you and the people you love. he can't escape it

― k3vin k., Thursday, August 28, 2014 10:24 AM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

no, the seconds of blackness can very easily be read as his death

the show doesn't end when it cuts to black, it ends when the credits roll

those seconds of blackness are part of the show's narrative

that's a fair reading, i don't dispute that

well then you are a gentleman sir.

read yr blog posts people he is dead http://masterofsopranos.wordpress.com/the-sopranos-definitive-explanation-of-the-end

surely the show ends when the credits are over not when they start.

just sayin

if you have any evidence that the sopranos credits sequences have ever sustained the narrative, i'm all ears

His mother was named "livia" which is awfully close to "live" and I think derives from "olive." Tony soprano live / tony sopranolive / tony sopran olive

Best answer I got

The thing everybody always leaves out is that the final episode is crappy and anti-climactic no matter whether he lives or dies, and that the final sequence is quite boringly directed.

That's the most bonkers theory yet!

that is ridiculous

I won't stop believin'

the final scene is masterful 500%

otm

life is boringly directed, esp if you're eating onion rings in a diner in Bloomfield.

Mr Veg reminded me that I thought the tv was broken when we saw that ending

https://twitter.com/tnyfrontrow/status/507226969411690497

O rings = contraception = no new life?

LOL whoops wrong thread

looool

you want me to zap that post stevie?

i missed this episode

xp yeah uh maybe we should go ahead and whack that one

morbs how far are you now?

s2, four in

stopping for awhile due to baseball probly

Holy shit the Tony dream episode in S5 is awful.

no.

Furio has uncovered a lost Guercino masterpiece worth millions, I didn't know he was such a renaissance man IRL.

http://pagesix.com/2014/09/29/sopranos-star-discovers-artwork-worth-millions/?

Series now on Bluray. For "The Happy Wanderer":

http://www.vox.com/2014/11/17/7234477/sopranos-streaming-one-episode

http://www.hitfix.com/the-dartboard/dont-stop-believing-david-chase-analyzes-the-final-scene-of-the-sopranos

Or, wait, this link's better:
http://www.dga.org/Craft/DGAQ/All-Articles/1502-Spring-2015/Shot-to-Remember-The-Sopranos.aspx

i have a theory
that david chase didn't intend the ending to be ambiguous but the public outcry/confusion made him butthurt and reticent about it

Chase basically confirms that huge blog post about it saying Tony got shot.

Nah, he's saying that it's one reading of it, and def one reading he intended. I don't think that many people have said that there was nothing menacing about Members Only Guy, or that it wasn't intended to remind of us what Bobby said in Soprano Home Movies about not hearing the final bullet.

Either way, it's a crappy ending. Having two readings of something doesn't really matter when neither reading is interesting.

It's one of the best-edited TV sequences ever.

I love the ending

set the standard for how to conclude a long-running series imo

Ending has really grown on me. I was pretty ambivalent when I first saw it.

I like that his goal w/ the final scene was to evoke a feeling rather than to provide some narrative explanation

There's only 3 minutes left in the episode! Why is nothing ~happening~?? Why is Meadow taking SO LONG to park her car??? Who is that dude in the jacket???? WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN?!?!?

he's either going to be shot Then or SOMEDAY or expecting it FOREVER. What's ambiguous?

we will all be shot one day. shot right in the heart by death's death gun. but the symbolism of the onion rings.

the circle of badabing

did you end up watching the whole series, Dr.?

r u crazy? no, left off a few months ago like, 4 eps in s2. I DO NOT bingewatch.