TRUE DETECTIVE on hbo - Season Two

it would be cool if the show got some older actors in the mix. i feel like Damages is a high water mark for modern cable drama casting, so many vets got to go on that show and do something unlike their previous roles and usually kill it.

crossover?

well it's set in California and presumably the subject is conspiracies so I'll assume Pynchon is the starting place right

think it's more likely to be riffing on Polanski's Chinatown, Ellroy's L.A. Quartet, Ross Macdonald's Lew Archer novels, or even Chandler tbh

and Who Framed Roger Rabbit!

and crash

I don't think it's totally crazy to throw TCoL49 in with that bunch and my understanding is Inherent Vice is playing with a similar sorta frame but I haven't gotten to it yet.

"Good to know he has a woman friend tho."

A woman friend who is the wife of T-Bone Burnett (who coincidently does the music for the show). Not sure this counts.

reportedly Justin Lin (Fast Five, Community's paintball episode) is in talks to direct the first two episodes.

While I consider myself a fan of Lin, and don't even hate the actors being batted around, this thing seems destined for the biggest backlash. I can't say I'm surprised they still want to call it True Detective, but I almost can.

like, unless the new directors go all-in imitating Fukunaga's style (and since he directed the entire series, it WAS his style), all that will carry over is a script by Enrico Polazzo and maybe a credit sequence full of sad cops and lady butts

feel like its kinda cool to get a different director as long as its someone good

don't get me wrong, i might watch a new HBO detective show with a pilot directed by lin or william friedkin starring vince vaughn and/or colin farrell. I just wouldn't hear that and assume "oh that's true detective season 2"

Has anyone caught Lin's non-f&f stuff?

I saw better luck tomorrow but that was in high school

I know he did some flick about the naval academy

I feel like if he was given a non action movie space to work in he could flex and come up with something good... And as good as helming the F&F franchise has been for him, it's certainly pigeonholed him

But yeah if he does this F&F style there will be a lot of lol's

feel like somehow people's personal distaste for NP has carried over into this idea that fukunaga is some master stylist who elevated boilerplate material. which strikes me as a big stretch. I don't want to parse credit, but I think they'll be fine without him. obv it's a whole new story/characters so there's a high risk of failure no matter what.

i got better luck tomorrow from netflix recently (as i said, i'm kind of a fan). Not without note but obvious juvenalia (endless narration, corny montage tricks) and def not gonna win cinematography awards at sundance like fukunaga's debut did

And if it's like any other TV show in the world, it has a boilerplate stylebook.

but that's the thing - it's not totally "like any other TV show in the world." Fukunaga directed every episode. It was basically a miniseries.

whether or not he's a "master stylist" isn't an issue so much as that he has style

and that the style was part of what made the show distinctive

oh def agree. he knocked it out of the park.

don't get me wrong, i might watch a new HBO detective show with a pilot directed by lin or william friedkin starring vince vaughn and/or colin farrell. I just wouldn't hear that and assume "oh that's true detective season 2"

― da croupier, Friday, September 5, 2014 3:36 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

idk most tv shows have many different directors over the course of a single season while visual cohesion is maintained, but it might be kind of cool to keep the writer and switch the director and actors up so theres still some continuity but it also has a self contained seasonal aspect

fukunagas style was a lil heavy hand imho

xps

I just mean the "NP is a lame pseud whose script was saved by great acting and directing" narrative strikes me as way off. (lame pseud stuff notwithstanding)

felt kinda "grunge music video" at times

obvs there was tons of super cool shit too

well that's why i said they might go whole hog on copying what fukunaga (and only fukunaga, as he directed the whole thing) did. but if they don't, and it not just looks different but has vince vaughn saying portentous shit next to a redwood, the chances of unpleasant tweet heat seem pretty high

I just mean the "NP is a lame pseud whose script was saved by great acting and directing" narrative strikes me as way off.

well yes if you cartoonishly overstate a pov it sounds cartoonish and overstated

NP obv has skills but c'mon he's getting shit for stealing from alan moore

maybe there wont even be a character that says deep shit all day long on the next one, i wld personally advise against it

just do a wise cracking guy instead

xps

Haha I dunno I feel like I've seen that exact argument somewhere! maybe gawker.

yeah no way he does a rust-like character again. but marty was so well written I have some faith.

yeah i don't envy NP. Whether or not he's hot literary shit or a pretentious pulp aggregator, at least novelists don't have to give each novel the same title.

have u guys seen this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoGGDKV88Fg

ha yes lmao

directed by the drive/pusher trilogy guy

god it's sad when washed up actors without access to classier, well-paying gigs have to whore themselves out like that

lol yup

Also half of TD's style just came from being set in the swampland of the south imo

wait I'm confused can someone tell me who directed the entire first season again?

steven king

oh god HBO so needs to give Steven King a pile of money to direct a full season of a show

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggWS4tTzs60

lmao he directed that i had no idea

http://i.imgur.com/78v4tTz.png
http://i.imgur.com/1DcJAqs.png

lmao

more like Director (1 mic drop)

Let's see if this guy is back for season two.

Steven King directed a movie based on a Stephen King story?

is that weird?

i hope so

maybe it's weird that he chose to direct in the first place but i don't see what should stop an actual director from adapting their own work

writers adapt their own stories into screenplays all the time, if you can write and direct why not

is this some hubris faux pas i don't know about

oh is this about the name thing

i guess that's funny